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Post by class411 on Jun 15, 2016 8:23:12 GMT
Having failed miserably on the 'True Londoner' test (13 out of 20), I began thinking about how much of the network I have actually used.
Given that I started using it before I could talk (usually, I must admit, accompanied by an adult), I can't be certain, but I was surprised to find that (in terms of stations traversed) it' probably less than 50%.
In fact the only lines I've traversed in their entirety are the Victoria and the Circle.
Of course, that part that I have used, I've used a lot.
How much of the network have others used? (It would be useful if anyone responds, if they could indicate whether they are/have been an LU employee.)
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Post by snoggle on Jun 15, 2016 8:47:47 GMT
All of it including depot access roads to Northumberland Park, Northfields, Picc to Vic crossovers at F Park, travelled into the Nor - Picc link at Euston, Watford north curve, Kennington loop. Oh and a fair few cab rides including whole of Vic Line in 67 stock, a fair part of the Northern Line, Baker St - Amersham in A stock, fast lines on the Picc in 73 stock (bouncy - had to hold on tight), parts of the Circle and District. Oh and yes I am ex LU. I've also been to a great many stations on the network - devising plans to put in ticket gates. Again can't be certain I've visited all of them but it would be a high proportion of stations. EDIT - in light of other replies I've also done the old ELL including to Shoreditch and the Aldwych branch. My memory is failing me as to whether I did Epping - Ongar. I *think* I did but wouldn't like to have to swear it in court.
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Post by hobbayne on Jun 15, 2016 8:49:23 GMT
I have covered the entire length of the Bakerloo, Piccadilly and Central lines as a driver. Including Ongar and Aldwych. Although I never drove the Epping/Ongar shuttles, only observed while training. I would never have had any reason to go to the far extremities of those lines if it werent for my job.
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Post by theblackferret on Jun 15, 2016 8:53:15 GMT
All I haven't used is
District:Acton Town-Ealing Broadway DLR Beckton branch AND Poplar-Stratford AND KGV branch.
I can definitely only recall using the Central from North Acton to West Ruislip, but only once. Whether temporary insanity, substance abuse or aliens taking me over caused this, I cannot say.
But, before they disappeared off the Tube map, I did also use the ELL, Bakerloo right up to Watford & the GNCR, all of which still exist.
Of what's gone, only South Acton (closed when I was 7) missed.
I've never worked for LU/TfL etc.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 15, 2016 9:00:34 GMT
Been everywhere many times over, although only been to Amersham / Chesham a handful of times. Went to Aldwych / Ongar when they were open as part of the Underground. Only been to Heathrow Terminal 5 once.
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Post by jacks on Jun 15, 2016 9:08:38 GMT
Bakerloo, Jubilee and W&C in full as a passenger plus the Circle and H&C in full in the driving seat.
Central: West Ruislip/Ealing Broadway - Stratford District: Ealing Broadway/Richmond/Wimbledon - Upney Metropolitan: Uxbridge - Aldgate Northern: Edgware/High Barnet/Mill Hill East - Stockwell via Bank (+ CX branch in full) Picc: Uxbridge/Heathrow 123 - Wood Green Victoria: Stockwell - Seven Sisters (& Northumberland Park depot)
Done the majority of the DLR too but haven't been beyond Greenwich, City Airport or Royal Albert.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 15, 2016 9:23:20 GMT
Never been employed by any railway.
Covered the entire Underground and BR passenger network in my student days (except a few Parliamentary services not shown on Tube maps or the BR timetable map) This included Ongar, Aldwych, and Croxley Green, and also the Woodgrange Park - Forest Gate link and the Kentish Town - Upper Holloway connection, but not the South Acton shuttle (I'm not that old) or the South Tottenham curves (I haven't yet managed to stir myself that early on a Saturday morning!)
However, there are many non-passenger links I have not done, such as the Kennington, Euston, and Kings Cross loops - although I have been to Northumberland Park depot
Added Watford North Curve a few years ago, and other new lines in London as they have opened, although there are a number of recently-opened lines outside London still on my bucket list (the closest to London being Aylesbury Vale Parkway, the new curve at Bicester, and the Kettering - Corby - Melton Mowbray line).
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Post by countryman on Jun 15, 2016 10:23:41 GMT
When I was living in London in the 60s and 70s,I used to travel a lot on Twin Rovers, and I did go to Watford Junction on the Bakerloo and Ongar. I don't think I ever made it to Aldwych. Since I have been going back in recent years, I have ensured that I have covered all of the system, apart from not being sure I have been to Brixton. I have also covered all of the Overground, but not TFL rail.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 10:52:58 GMT
So, everything except
Met Line: Moor Park - Watford District: Barking - Upminster Northern: Camden Town - Edgware, Kentish Town - High Barnet/Mill Hill East, South Wimbledon - Morden Central: North of Stratford
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 15, 2016 11:40:27 GMT
The only line I've covered almost entirely is the Picc. After leaving London at age 10: I've never been north of Baker Street or east of Liv Street on the Met North of Euston/Kings Cross or South of Clapham Common on the Northen, North of Finsbury Park/South of Victoria on the Vic, West of Earls Court, East of Monument on the District West of Wood Lane or East of Mile End on the H&C West of White City or East of Stratford on the Central East of Canary Wharf on the Jubilee Anywhere on the Bakerloo North of Waterloo On the Waterloo and City Between Uxbridge and Rayner Lane
In other words, I really haven't gone anywhere. I'm mostly informed via everyone else's post here and videos on YouTube and photos on Flickr
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Post by melikepie on Jun 15, 2016 12:45:25 GMT
AFAIK the only sections I haven't been on are: *Kennington to Waterloo *Hampstead to Edgware *Ruislip Manor to Uxbridge. *North Acton to Ealing Broadway *Theydon Bois to Epping *Woodford to Leytonstone via Hainault *Queens Park to Paddington *Vauxhall to Brixton *Tottenham Hale to Walthamstow Central *Chalfont and Latimer to Amersham
I may add more later. I've completed the DLR and done a lot of LO.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 14:10:07 GMT
I've stopped at every station on the network currently, but Epping-Ongar, Aldwych, Charing Cross Jubilee, etc. were before my time. However, I've only got out and actually walked around a relatively small percentage of them, I would've thought. I've also done the Kennington loop and Watford north curve and I've track bashed as many reversing moves as I've been able to, including going through 21 road at Woodford.
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Post by MoreToJack on Jun 15, 2016 16:52:37 GMT
Although I'm now staff, the vast majority of my coverage was done before that was the case.
I've managed to tick off every 'regular' part of the network (including Ongar and Aldwych, courtesy the parents at a very, very young age...), as well as the likes of the Kennington loop, Watford North curve (both ways), West Ham siding and the various moves on and off of the Piccadilly/District fast/local lines.Edit:I also did Charing Cross and Shoreditch prior to their abandonment.
Since joining the company I've ticked off numerous more sidings, reversing points and depots, although I couldn't be specific as it's not the sort of thing I keep track of.
Quite happy to stick with the achievement of getting off and having a look around all 270 current stations as part of my hunt for the 'Labyrinth' artworks.
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Post by arun on Jun 15, 2016 16:54:52 GMT
Pretty much as Superteacher though these days I regularly go to the Heathrow stations. Back in the '60s I wore out many twin rovers..... Never worked for LT though.
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Post by tjw on Jun 15, 2016 20:00:59 GMT
The link between Ruislip Gardens Depot and the Met... The Diveunder at Neasden Rickmansworth North Sidings The bay at Rickmansworth Watford North curve
Also I have not been employed by LT...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 21:00:29 GMT
I've walked all but the central line and half the picc line which has meant that I've had to travel on them from end to end. Will finish walking those lines left eventually. I am now a staff member on LU.
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Post by Chris M on Jun 16, 2016 13:16:23 GMT
I've never been TfL staff, but I have travelled on every LU, LO, DLR and TfL rail line shown on the map, and I have been to or through every current station - mainly photographing for the quiz. The last to be completed was the Hertford East branch.
I've entered and/or exited at every DLR station including old and new Stratford, South Quay, Tower Gateway and Pudding Mill Lane stations, but not the original Island Gardens or Mudchute, which I never got to travel to. I'm fairly certain I've used all of them for purposes other than photographing them as well.
I've stood on at least one platform at every current LU station, the last one I'm fairly certain was Hounslow East. I've exited and/or entered at nearly all if them, possibly even all, but I'm not confident of that. I'm quite far from having used every station for purposes other than photographing the station, although I ticket Mansion House off that list this week.
For LO, I've not stood on the platform at Theobalds Grove-Southbury or Stoke Newington, and I'm not sure about Wood Street, Crouch Hill or Carpenders Park. I've entered and/or exited at every North, West, East and South London Line station, all three on the Romford-Upminster, every terminus, Upper Holloway, Goblin stations east of Blackhorse Road, West Anglia stations south of Walthamstow Central, Seven Sisters, Highhams Park, White Hart Lane, Bush Hill Park and Edmonton Green.
I've stood on at least one platform at every TfL Rail station (although some only before it was TfL Rail) and have entered and/or exited at all of them except Shenfield.
I've also done Charring Cross Jubilee, Watford north curve and Seven Sisters-Northumberland Park Depot (twice), the Vic-Picc connection and St Mary's Curve, Battersea Park (twice unscheduled). I think I went to the original Shoreditch but I'm not sure of that, I did do the North Woolwich branch all the way. Aldwych and Epping-Ongar are still on my to-do list.
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Post by snoggle on Jun 16, 2016 15:06:51 GMT
I've managed to tick off every 'regular' part of the network (including Ongar and Aldwych, courtesy the parents at a very, very young age...), So in your pram / buggy you weren't going "goo goo, gaa gaa" but "goo-ngar goo-ngar goo-ngar[1]" and "g-aldwych, g-aldwych, g-aldwych"? [1] go ongar
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Post by MoreToJack on Jun 16, 2016 15:51:40 GMT
I've managed to tick off every 'regular' part of the network (including Ongar and Aldwych, courtesy the parents at a very, very young age...), So in your pram / buggy you weren't going "goo goo, gaa gaa" but "goo-ngar goo-ngar goo-ngar[1]" and "g-aldwych, g-aldwych, g-aldwych"? [1] go ongar Ha! It wouldn't surprise me - though I am assured that they were for legitimate travel purposes, something I don't doubt as my parents aren't into their trains at all...
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Post by class411 on Jun 17, 2016 10:48:28 GMT
It seems that just about everyone has traversed a lot more of the diagram than I have. Not that I really expected anything else.
So I'm thinking of seeing a bit more of the network, but I'm wondering if 'doing' a couple of lines a day - i.e. travelling to one end, and going straight back and to the other end, actually feels like 'using' the service.
Would it be better to do that or, perhaps, just spend more days, but go to one end of one line at a time and maybe see something, or have lunch.
Has anyone else travelled 'just to tick the boxes', and, if so, does it feel as if you have really used the network or do boxed ticking bits seem a bit 'fake' afterwards?
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Post by Chris M on Jun 17, 2016 12:07:03 GMT
Personally, I'd suggest travelling to the terminus and getting off the train there and spend some time looking round the station - how long depends on the station Epping on a sunny summer's day is very pretty, Upminster doesn't have anywhere near as much going for it imho). Then taking the train back but looking at a few interesting stations on your way back. If architecture is your thing, then on the eastern end of the Central for example Loughton is a fine art deco station that is worth a look around, including the ticket hall, Gants Hill platform level is a must visit and Mile End platforms are a great example of how a suspended ceiling is not always an improvement. For the east end of the District I'd suggest Upminster Bridge ticket hall, East Ham (have a good look around), Bow Road (half open, half sub-surface platforms) and Stepney Green (feels quite original). On the DLR the new Pudding Mill Lane station is worth visiting for the scale, and Devons Road is probably the best example of a first generation station still, Canary Wharf (again for scale) and Cyprus for how it's integrated with the road layout built at the same time.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 17, 2016 12:28:12 GMT
Personally I'm an advocate of using the railway to go places, rather than just track-bashing. You can cover the whole map in a day, but then have you really seen everywhere? Ooop 'ere in t'north Merseytart is covering the whole of the northern map, his rule is he has to make a journey from or to each station, I gather he was inspired by someone doing similar on the UndergrounD.
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Post by John Tuthill on Jun 17, 2016 13:05:52 GMT
Personally, I'd suggest travelling to the terminus and getting off the train there and spend some time looking round the station - how long depends on the station Epping on a sunny summer's day is very pretty, Upminster doesn't have anywhere near as much going for it imho). Then taking the train back but looking at a few interesting stations on your way back. If architecture is your thing, then on the eastern end of the Central for example Loughton is a fine art deco station that is worth a look around, including the ticket hall, Gants Hill platform level is a must visit and Mile End platforms are a great example of how a suspended ceiling is not always an improvement. For the east end of the District I'd suggest Upminster Bridge ticket hall, East Ham (have a good look around), Bow Road (half open, half sub-surface platforms) and Stepney Green (feels quite original). On the DLR the new Pudding Mill Lane station is worth visiting for the scale, and Devons Road is probably the best example of a first generation station still, Canary Wharf (again for scale) and Cyprus for how it's integrated with the road layout built at the same time. Not forgetting those stations on the top end of the Piccadilly Line
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 17, 2016 14:01:52 GMT
Personally I'm an advocate of using the railway to go places, rather than just track-bashing. . Whatever floats your boat, of course. Pure track bashing is more interesting on the open air sections, to be sure! And of course, you can save a lot of time, and see a bit of suburbia, by travelling from the terminus of one line to the terminus of another (e.g Stanmore to Edgware, Morden to Wimbledon) by bus, rather than simply doing them both "on the bounce"
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Post by Chris M on Jun 17, 2016 14:05:16 GMT
Personally, I'd suggest travelling to the terminus and getting off the train there and spend some time looking round the station - how long depends on the station Epping on a sunny summer's day is very pretty, Upminster doesn't have anywhere near as much going for it imho). Then taking the train back but looking at a few interesting stations on your way back. If architecture is your thing, then on the eastern end of the Central for example Loughton is a fine art deco station that is worth a look around, including the ticket hall, Gants Hill platform level is a must visit and Mile End platforms are a great example of how a suspended ceiling is not always an improvement. For the east end of the District I'd suggest Upminster Bridge ticket hall, East Ham (have a good look around), Bow Road (half open, half sub-surface platforms) and Stepney Green (feels quite original). On the DLR the new Pudding Mill Lane station is worth visiting for the scale, and Devons Road is probably the best example of a first generation station still, Canary Wharf (again for scale) and Cyprus for how it's integrated with the road layout built at the same time. Not forgetting those stations on the top end of the Piccadilly Line Absolutely, I just chose not to do a detailed list of all architecturally interesting stations on the Combine, just my pick of those east of Zone 1 on the District and Central lines.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 15:46:20 GMT
Well I really enjoyed my little jaunts travelling to all stations on a line on a line-by-line basis. As long as we called at every station (and that includes Turnham Green for the Piccadilly line) I felt that that was enough. I preferred to do it on a line-by-line basis for the sense of completeness and obviously walking the tube (let along taking on the tube challenge) is a tall order. Because I was mostly interested in enjoying the railway and seeing these stations, whose names I'd stared at on line diagrams whilst journeying around the capital, I didn't feel at all like I was cheating by not making a genuine journey, but then I'm more of an anorak than a practical sort . Having said that, I only saw stations and platform level (and at that time I didn't really know much about the infrastructure, so didn't take much of an opportunity to look at the railway itself). So you might find it worthwhile to get off the train a couple of times and actually take a spin around some of the stations, because many of them are very beautiful. However, there are only so many hours in a day, and you can't expect to explore every District line station if you want to be home in time for tea!
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Post by spsmiler on Jun 17, 2016 21:49:08 GMT
I feel sure that I've been on all sections of line that are open to passengers, including the North Curve. Admittedly only rarely to Elephant and castle (Bakerloo) Brixton and Walthamstow Central (Victoria), and not to Chesham since the 2-9 ODTC's were killed off.
For Watford Junction I think its only been on an Overground train. I recall making a point of travelling on one of the 52 trailers on the Bakerloo Line just before they were withdrawn. The significance of that is that they went in 1972, when I was just 12!, and I travelled alone. Just wish I'd taken the family super 8 film camera with me!!!
I've also been on all the DLR and Tramlink, albeit only rarely to Beckenham Junction. I've not yet been to Wimbledon since the second platform opened... every time I think I will have some free time other people (family members) keep finding things for me to do.
I've also been on the ELL, NLL, WLL, Goblin and Romford-Upminster in their incarnations as part of the Overground network, but not much of the rest of the Overground.
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Post by class411 on Jun 18, 2016 10:16:11 GMT
Thanks for the comments, and especially Chris M for tips about points of interest around the Upminster end of the District. (The only bit of the District I haven't used.)
I've now devised a nine day schedule that looks a lot less fraught and a good deal more interesting than the five day one that tried to jam everything in.
I hope to pursue these trips over the course of the rest of the year.
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Post by crusty54 on Jun 18, 2016 12:33:08 GMT
I have worked on every station on the Underground with the exception of Heathrow Terminal 5. This has been the result of various jobs with the firm and afterwards.
This includes lots of disused areas at Embankment, Charing Cross, Euston, Holborn, Oxford Circus, Baker Street and Liverpool Street amongst others.
More recently this was extended to the vent shafts on the Victoria line.
All in all the Tube is a fascinating place.
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Post by orienteer on Jun 19, 2016 21:34:04 GMT
Never been a railway employee, but have covered all the whole TfL system except for: Chesham branch Jubilee Queensbury to Stanmore Northern Mill Hill East branch, north of Woodside Park, and north of Golders Green Picc north of Bounds Green Central east of Stratford Beckton (DLR tour went into the depot instead) Overground east of Leyton Midland Road, south of Canada Water, Willesden Junction to Clapham Junction, Romford to Upminster, and the "new" Enfield/Cheshunt branches (have done the Chingford branch when it was steam operated!)
Will endeavour to cover these now I'm retired.
Have been through the Kingsway subway by tram, and used the Aldwych branch though! Saw the South Acton shuttle from the N London line, and rode the Oerlikon stock on the latter, and been to Broad Street and North Woolwich.
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