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Post by snoggle on Aug 6, 2016 22:16:36 GMT
By the way, is that Jeremy Corbyn in the photo? Pretty sure it isn't. I did walk past him as someone was asking me questions about my camera through the closed bostwick gate.  I think I would have spotted Jezza if it was him. |
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Post by stapler on Aug 7, 2016 8:50:02 GMT
He walked past my house one day; really had to take a second look!
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Post by ashlar on Aug 8, 2016 21:28:00 GMT
According to the tannoy announcement on the station today the new gateline is coming into use on Monday 15th August.
Same week as night tube, so they may have decided to combine the Oyster database update.
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Post by jswallow on Aug 15, 2016 9:37:05 GMT
To confirm the new gateline was open when I went past... Quite a lot of people on the Chingford platform ticket hall side trying to get in though - multiple buses arriving at once will make it fun to get into the station (not complaining/moaning, but I can't think of a better way to do it!)
Three or four police offices/PCSOs as well by the barriers as well as CSAs. Expecting day 1 trouble?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 19:02:41 GMT
I don't understand why they can't open that gate, everything else is open anyway. Sure there have been a few missed trains as if you come up from the subway to the London-bound platform they make you go the longer way round. Please correct me if I have my facts wrong. I'm sure I read about a year ago that Walthamstow Central wouldn't be fully operational until the other stations on the Chingford Line were gated. I have not been to Wood Street, Highams Park or Chingford for a long while so I don't know if they have been. My son informed me that the new gates at W/C are now in operation, but as he enters and exits through the bus station he doesn't know if the wrought iron gate on platform 1 has been pulled aside. If it hasn't, then this may be to do with the article I read. Lets say that Highams park is still oystered, it would mean that you could walk through without paying, you would then alight at W/C and if the wrought iron gate was open, walk straight down to the lower concourse, through the 'switched off' gates at the top of the esclators and onto the Vic Line. You could then alight, say at Finsbury park which I believe is still oystered together with the Piccadilly Line so avoid paying any fare. As I say I may have outdated facts so has anyone got more up to date info or opinions? |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 16, 2016 19:16:15 GMT
I don't understand why they can't open that gate, everything else is open anyway. Sure there have been a few missed trains as if you come up from the subway to the London-bound platform they make you go the longer way round. Please correct me if I have my facts wrong. I'm sure I read about a year ago that Walthamstow Central wouldn't be fully operational until the other stations on the Chingford Line were gated. I have not been to Wood Street, Highams Park or Chingford for a long while so I don't know if they have been. My son informed me that the new gates at W/C are now in operation, but as he enters and exits through the bus station he doesn't know if the wrought iron gate on platform 1 has been pulled aside. If it hasn't, then this may be to do with the article I read. Lets say that Highams park is still oystered, it would mean that you could walk through without paying, you would then alight at W/C and if the wrought iron gate was open, walk straight down to the lower concourse, through the 'switched off' gates at the top of the esclators and onto the Vic Line. You could then alight, say at Finsbury park which I believe is still oystered together with the Piccadilly Line so avoid paying any fare. As I say I may have outdated facts so has anyone got more up to date info or opinions? I think someone is stretching matters a little too far. There are plenty of stations which are not gated all over the place. Many also have a way of reaching an open interchange with the tube somewhere - via Highbury or Stratford for example if you changed at Hackney Downs / Hackney Wick. IIRC Chingford is gated and has been for a while. I think even St James St has been done - haven't been down there for ages. If you wanted to you could get in or out anywhere if you are determined or clever enough. Although I was responsible for putting in a lot of ticket gates on LU I've never viewed them as a 100% sure fire way of preventing ticket fraud / revenue loss. They were never evaluated on the basis of 100% success either. Finsbury Park is now gated at the LU entrances but I think you can still "escape" by treking round the spiral stairs and using the GN exit. Again I've not had a "walk round" down there for a fair while. The Wells Terrace ticket hall closed about a month ago to allow for a new development to be built which will include a new western ticket hall. |
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Post by peterc on Aug 16, 2016 20:31:13 GMT
St James Street is gated. Hopefully by taking the gate queues away from the top of the Vic line escalators and distributing them across three exits (and no touch out required to interchange) things will be a lot easier.
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Post by Tomcakes on Aug 16, 2016 20:53:36 GMT
Correct, it is possible to get to/from the Picc/Vic lines, BR services, and the outside world at Finsbury Park without going through a ticket barrier.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 17, 2016 11:20:06 GMT
Correct, it is possible to get to/from the Picc/Vic lines, BR services, and the outside world at Finsbury Park without going through a ticket barrier. By gum Mr Corbyn was quick in achieving that bit of local rail service nationalisation. Seen off the dreaded GTR already.    |
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Post by stapler on Aug 17, 2016 11:22:02 GMT
Even when he's not at Walthamstow Central!
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Post by stapler on Aug 18, 2016 6:46:04 GMT
Report in the Walthamstow Guardian - LU have also installed new cooling:
Victoria line passengers will be given a little extra help to keep their cool for the remainder of the summer, thanks to a new air cooling system.
Transport for London has installed a fan system between Walthamstow Central and Blackhorse Road stations, to reduce temperatures in the tunnels by up to three degrees.
The new equipment was fitted after Walthamstow Central was identified as one of the warmest stations on the Victoria line.
The system draws in fresh air from the street through coils filled with flowing, chilled water, producing cold air.
The chilled air is then sent into a mid-tunnel shaft by the cooling fan, which is capable of moving the equivalent of 33 double-decker buses full of cold air every minute.
Mark Evers, Director of Customer Strategy for London Underground, said: “We understand that it can get uncomfortable for customers during the summer months, which is why we are always looking for new ways to help customers beat the heat.
“Projects like the installation of this fan system demonstrates how we are using innovation to develop new ways to cool the Tube and make customers' journeys better.”
Similar cooling systems were installed at Oxford Circus and Green Park
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 21:45:24 GMT
It was a sad day when I heard that the actor BRIAN RIX had died, I remember as a boy watching his Whitehall Farces on BBC TV. So it is well timed that the Farce of Walthamstow Central has now come to an end. I noticed yesterday that the Bostwick gate has reopened on Platform 1 allowing passengers to descend the staircase to the Victoria line from the Liverpool Street bound train. I assume that the person running the coffee outlet by that entrance is jumping for joy now that he has got some of his missing trade back. With this gate open, the gate on the Station Square entrance is now closed, so Walthamstow Central is now back to where it was a year ago. The ticket gates at the top of the escalators have now been switched off and I assume they will be removed at a later date, (I feel another Farce coming on) One question. can anyone tell me why the route maps on the Victiria line trains still do not show W/C and Seven Sisters linking with the Overground? I did see one today but it was a paste-over, but nearly all the carrages still have the old route maps.
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Post by MoreToJack on Aug 30, 2016 22:04:13 GMT
They were all given those same stickers on the route maps after the transfer of the West Anglia services last year.
Those same stickers were then covered over for the line closure, and when those (that is, the second set) were removed they took the first set with them...
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Post by ashlar on Aug 31, 2016 17:55:49 GMT
I assume they will be removed at a later date, (I feel another Farce coming on). They already removed most of the old barriers last night! And installed some new orange benches on the platforms too. Probably the rest will go tonight. |
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Post by peterc on Sept 1, 2016 21:11:58 GMT
SWBO tells me that she saw people who had touched in at the new barriers trying to work out how to touch in again where the old barrier line used to be. Hopefully they will all have worked out what has changed by the end of the week.
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Post by ashlar on Sept 3, 2016 5:57:23 GMT
I don't blame them.
I'm still confused by the unnecessary(?) extra gateline at Stratford Jubillee line nearly a decade after they removed it!
Walthamstow Central is starting to feel like a single station. A subtle but welcome change.
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Post by crusty54 on Sept 3, 2016 6:34:38 GMT
I don't blame them. I'm still confused by the unnecessary(?) extra gateline at Stratford Jubillee line nearly a decade after they removed it! Walthamstow Central is starting to feel like a single station. A subtle but welcome change. it pre-dated all sorts of TfL takeovers of other lines at Stratford and the Jubilee revenue was protected. They needed the gates for other parts of the station when extra entrances were built so they recycled them, |
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Post by snoggle on Sept 3, 2016 9:10:13 GMT
I don't blame them. I'm still confused by the unnecessary(?) extra gateline at Stratford Jubillee line nearly a decade after they removed it! Walthamstow Central is starting to feel like a single station. A subtle but welcome change. The Jubilee Line project decided, for reasons only they understood, that they wanted the JLE gated off from other lines where this was feasible. This meant there was an interchange gateline at Stratford. It was removed because when Oyster PAYG was extended the ticket logic of "enter" then "exit" would never work with an interchange gateline which created "enter" "enter" and then "exit" or "enter" "exit" and "exit" validation sequences for people using it. Therefore it had to go. To be honest it was a daft idea but the idea of "money money money" won over senior people at the time. |
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Post by stapler on Sept 4, 2016 8:52:03 GMT
I still get my Oystercard out for the ghost barrier line! It must have gone about 2004-5?
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I think I would have spotted Jezza if it was him.
