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Post by fish7373 on Jan 13, 2016 16:40:02 GMT
HI just to let you know that the new tamper is out on the test track for brake testing tommrow out from northfields depot i have no times for this. And i have some photos on Flickr. FISH7373 81C
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Post by DWS on Jan 14, 2016 15:20:16 GMT
HI just to let you know that the new tamper is out on the test track for brake testing tommrow out from northfields depot i have no times for this. And i have some photos on Flickr. FISH7373 81C Thanks for the photos of the new tamper, any idea of the cost of this new machine ?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 14, 2016 16:46:14 GMT
Thanks for the photos of the new tamper, any idea of the cost of this new machine ? No mention of cost in the news release but worth sharing for the info: Last week saw the arrival of two brand new bespoke tamping machines After almost 18 months of planning, last week saw the arrival of two brand new bespoke tamping machines. The specially designed machines will be used to install modular points and crossings, which will lead to shorter closures and more reliable installations.
The B45 Matisa Tamping machines will operate from the Ruislip depot, and have been built to take into account the complexities and challenges across the network. This includes being able to operate fully on the sub-surface lines, because they fit within a gauge which exactly replicates the new S Stock trains, and the majority of the open sections of the network.
Speaking about the arrival, Senior Project Manager, said: ‘I’m really pleased to see our new tampers at Ruislip. This is the first piece of new track plant that the business has bought in over 20 years, it has taken a considerable effort by the Project, Engineering and Transplant teams to get them over the line and has required us to create standards, specifications and processes and supply base relationships that reflect Plant rather than Passenger Rolling stock requirements The new tampers are not only a lot more versatile but will also enable us to replace points and crossings in half the time that we do it in today’.
Other features of the new machines include: · More environmentally friendly: the new machines are Stage 4 diesel engines so the cleanest possible option, which is particularly important when the machines are used within the sub-surface tunnels. · Parallel working capability: the two machines are able to work alongside each other by using a linking cable. · Diverging track tools: each machine has two tools which can be deployed on diverging stretches of track to achieve a greater level of compaction. · WiFi / 4G connectivity: this allows files to be transferred from machines to technicians remotely. · Video cameras and recording systems: this allows a record of site conditions and the sequence of events to be captured, allowing any issues to be rectified.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 17:03:32 GMT
The B45 Matisa Tamping machines will operate from the Ruislip depot, and have been built to take into account the complexities and challenges across the network. This includes being able to operate fully on the sub-surface lines, because they fit within a gauge which exactly replicates the new S Stock trains, and the majority of the open sections of the network. I'm not sure I understand this. How will the machines be able to get to the majority of the open sections of the network if they're built to S stock gauge? surely that requires going through a tube tunnel at some point for quite a lot of them?
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 14, 2016 17:37:00 GMT
Take them by road across London?
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Post by causton on Jan 14, 2016 18:24:12 GMT
What portion of the Sub-Surface is not directly accessible from Ruislip? I can't think of anything, apart from Ealing Broadway would be awkward to get to as you would have to go via Baker Street...but surely once it gets to Ruislip on the Met it can go anywhere?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 18:35:22 GMT
What portion of the Sub-Surface is not directly accessible from Ruislip? I can't think of anything, apart from Ealing Broadway would be awkward to get to as you would have to go via Baker Street...but surely once it gets to Ruislip on the Met it can go anywhere? For the Sub-Surface, no question, anywhere on the Sub-Surface is accessible from Ruislip depot. What I found interesting was And obviously many of the open sections that aren't on the SSR can't be reached from Ruislip without going through a tube tunnel. I have to say, it's not bad, you can do the west end of the Central line, almost all of the west end of the Picc, north end of the Jubilee line (anyone think of any others?) But I wasn't sure exactly how to read that sentence. Obviously you can't do north end of the Northern line, east end of the Picc, east end of the Central, east end of the Jub, or north end of the Bakerloo (unless they're cleared to get there via Network Rail). So I was sort of wondering how much of a majority is a majority and how to read the "and" (does it mean that you have the SSR and then the open sections of the network separately, or are we including the SSR in "the majority of the open sections of the network").
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 18:54:19 GMT
Surely the north end of the Bakerloo is tamped by Network Rail as its there assets north of Queens Park except Stonebridge Park Depot
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 18:57:39 GMT
Surely the north end of the Bakerloo is tamped by Network Rail as its there assets north of Queens Park except Stonebridge Park Depot Good point that - didn't really think of it
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Post by br7mt on Jan 14, 2016 20:40:15 GMT
The proposal is that if they are required for tamping operations on the deep tube lines the other side of the central London tunnels then they will be road moved into position.
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Dan
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 14, 2016 21:11:55 GMT
The proposal is that if they are required for tamping operations on the deep tube lines the other side of the central London tunnels then they will be road moved into position. Regards, Dan I suppose that for the eastern ends of the Central and Jubilee Lines they would travel as trains to a convenient location in the east, such as Upminster depot or the sidings at Upney, if it is possible to transfer to / from road here. For the Northern Line Edgware is not far from Stanmore, although the transfer could possibly be from Neasdon depot to Giolders Green depot. Of course it should have been possible to then transfer to the Barnet branch by rail... via Mill Hill, but instead (as with the Piccadilly Line) it will entail longer road journeys. Simon
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Post by t697 on Jan 14, 2016 23:40:48 GMT
The B45 Matisa Tamping machines will operate from the Ruislip depot, and have been built to take into account the complexities and challenges across the network. This includes being able to operate fully on the sub-surface lines, because they fit within a gauge which exactly replicates the new S Stock trains, and the majority of the open sections of the network. I'm not sure I understand this. How will the machines be able to get to the majority of the open sections of the network if they're built to S stock gauge? surely that requires going through a tube tunnel at some point for quite a lot of them? I think SSR on its own has "the majority of the open sections of the network" going by route miles.
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Post by metman on Jan 17, 2016 9:28:12 GMT
I haven't seen the photos of this however care has to be taken on certain open sections of the tube lines to ensure the loading gauge is ok such as infrastructure, cable bridges, road bridges etc.
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Post by DWS on Feb 5, 2016 11:20:47 GMT
The two new tampers for points & crossings are from the Swiss manufacture Matisa and cost £3.5milion each and are for tamping the modular P & C s.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 15:03:30 GMT
What's the future for the tube size 07's? I hope at least one finds it's way to the museum. Seems like someone forgot about TMM774 when saying the Matisa's are the first new OTM's for 20 years. 774 new in 2007
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Post by d7666 on Apr 23, 2016 13:55:58 GMT
what are the new machines numbers (if any) TMM775 and 776? -- Nick
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Post by MoreToJack on Apr 23, 2016 15:37:31 GMT
what are the new machines numbers (if any) TMM775 and 776? -- Nick Yes.
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Post by d7666 on Apr 23, 2016 19:16:17 GMT
what are the new machines numbers (if any) TMM775 and 776? -- Nick Yes. Ta. Wasn't sure if it was these or something else I'd seen a pic of recently carrying either 775 or 776 number. -- Nick
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