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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 30, 2015 16:51:00 GMT
Currently doing the rounds on Talking Pictures TV (SKY 343, FreeView/YouView 81) is this 1972 Children's Film Foundation/BFi production: The Boy Who Turned Yellow. The ONLY bit of interest is the scene filmed at Holborn (Aldwych) platform, masquerading as 'Chalk Farm', using a 1938 Tube Stock, which does appear to be painted yellow! (no CGi in 1972!) Car numbers over the communicating doors are: '012207' normal 1938 Stock trailer '12097' the interior painted yellow. Does anyone recall, or have any information? ( reganorak)?! some stills from the clip: car '012207' car '12097' (same car as above - adverts are identical): train enters platform: uncredited actor, in contemporary 1972 uniform (excellent!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 17:14:20 GMT
No need for yellow warning panels with that livery .
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 30, 2015 17:52:49 GMT
Currently doing the rounds on Talking Pictures TV (SKY 343, FreeView/YouView 81) is this 1972 Children's Film Foundation/BFi production: The Boy Who Turned Yellow. The ONLY bit of interest is the scene filmed at Aldwych, masquerading as 'Chalk Farm', using a 1938 Tube Stock, which does appear to be painted yellow! (no CGi in 1972!) Car numbers over the communicating doors are: '012207' normal 1938 Stock trailer '12097' the interior painted yellow. Does anyone recall, or have any information? ( reganorak)?! some stills from the clip: car '012207' car '12097' (same car as above - adverts are identical): train enters platform: uncredited actor, in contemporary 1972 uniform (excellent!) Should it be on the Circle Line? Feel free to groan
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Post by trt on Nov 30, 2015 17:54:27 GMT
Yellow chalk?
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 30, 2015 18:01:37 GMT
Currently doing the rounds on Talking Pictures TV (SKY 343, FreeView/YouView 81) is this 1972 Children's Film Foundation/BFi production: The Boy Who Turned Yellow. The ONLY bit of interest is the scene filmed at Aldwych, masquerading as 'Chalk Farm', using a 1938 Tube Stock, which does appear to be painted yellow! (no CGi in 1972!) Car numbers over the communicating doors are: '012207' normal 1938 Stock trailer '12097' the interior painted yellow. Does anyone recall, or have any information? ( reganorak)?! some stills from the clip: car '012207' car '12097' (same car as above - adverts are identical): train enters platform: uncredited actor, in contemporary 1972 uniform (excellent!) Is that gorgeous girl Carol Royle by any chance?
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Post by theblackferret on Nov 30, 2015 18:48:45 GMT
Carol Royle would've been just 18 when that was released & it's not on her profiles anywhere.
All the cast lists I turned up are as so:
Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Mark Dightam Mark Dightam ... John Robert Eddison Robert Eddison ... Nick Helen Weir Helen Weir ... Mrs.Saunders Brian Worth Brian Worth ... Mr.Saunders Esmond Knight Esmond Knight ... Doctor Laurence Carter Laurence Carter ... Schoolteacher Patrick McAlinney Patrick McAlinney ... Supreme Beefeater Lem Dobbs Lem Dobbs ... Munro (as Lem Kitaj) Rest of cast listed alphabetically: Nigel Rathbone Nigel Rathbone ... Schoolboy (uncredited) Peter Schofield Peter Schofield ... Beefeater (uncredited)
Does also say part filmed at Holborn, presumably Aldywch Branch platform.
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 30, 2015 19:45:08 GMT
Carol Royle would've been just 18 when that was released & it's not on her profiles anywhere. All the cast lists I turned up are as so: Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Mark Dightam Mark Dightam ... John Robert Eddison Robert Eddison ... Nick Helen Weir Helen Weir ... Mrs.Saunders Brian Worth Brian Worth ... Mr.Saunders Esmond Knight Esmond Knight ... Doctor Laurence Carter Laurence Carter ... Schoolteacher Patrick McAlinney Patrick McAlinney ... Supreme Beefeater Lem Dobbs Lem Dobbs ... Munro (as Lem Kitaj) Rest of cast listed alphabetically: Nigel Rathbone Nigel Rathbone ... Schoolboy (uncredited) Peter Schofield Peter Schofield ... Beefeater (uncredited) Does also say part filmed at Holborn, presumably Aldywch Branch platform. So who was she? I'm in love
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Post by theblackferret on Nov 30, 2015 20:55:48 GMT
Yes, I know what you mean!
Short of getting hold of a copy of it (and it's on Amazon as a DVD standalone of part of a CFF triple pack, btw), we are unlikely to find out much more.
The TV Cream site has this useful guide:
TEN ICONS OF THE CHILDREN’S FILM FOUNDATION
1) A RED-FACED, BOWLER HATTED AUTHORITY FIGURE GETTING HIS COMEUPPANCE As far as the Foundation was concerned, those in power are seldom up to any good (exceptions are the police, who are always helpful but tend to turn up too late). Ronnie Barker in A Ghost of a Chance (1978), David Lodge’s corrupt councillor in Cup Fever (1965) and countless others had their pomposity pricked by spirited youths. Comeuppances generally represented by said authority figure slipping in a puddle and falling on his rear.
2) A STIFF, STARCHY SCHOOLTEACHER WHO JUST DOESN’T GET IT As perennial as those dastardly councillors, anyone in gown and elbow patches is grist to the Foundation’s revolutionary manifesto. Many an adventure was held up by pesky demands for homework and detention, but the most impressive of all was Jeff Rawle’s apoplectic history master ‘Sniffy’ Kemp, forever putting the kybosh on the time-travelling fun of A Hitch in Time (1978).
3) A BUNGLING HENCHMAN Every criminal mastermind in CFF films somehow felt obliged to employ a clueless sidekick whose stupidity allows the kids to foil his dastardly schemes and make good by teatime. Roy Kinnear in High Rise Donkey (1980), Bernard Cribbins in Night Ferry (1977) and Bill Maynard in Sky Pirates (1977) are archetypal criminal dunderheads.
4) A HEALTHY OUTDOOR ACTIVITY Anti-authority they may have been, but it was still an odd boy who didn’t like sport in the world of CFF. Football aside, there was cricket in Egghead’s Robot (1970), cart racing in Go, Kart, Go! (1964) with Dennis Waterman, skiing in Avalanche (1969), scrambling in, er, Scramble (1969), and athletics in Sammy’s Super T-Shirt (1978), albeit illegally helped by the titular tiger print garment. By 1984, the kids were allowed to participate in such rebellious activities as forming a ska band (Pop Pirates), as long as they foiled some record-copying villains along the way.
5) A KINDLY RAG AND BONE MAN The middle-aged may be untrustworthy councillors to a man, and young men are inevitably hoodlums and petty crooks, but old people are, of course, always on the side of the kids – rag-and-bone men more so than anyone else, for some reason. Wilfrid Brambell, funnily enough, majored in these roles in The Salvage Gang (1958) and High Rise Donkey. Sadly he wasn’t on hand for A Horse Called Jester (1979), in which a knee-high Sadie Frost saved a tinker’s flea-bitten nag from the knacker’s yard.
6) A KINDLY BUT INEVITABLY RATHER TATTY FANTASTICAL FRIEND Wonders were performed on microbudgets to bring to life such magical creations as Electro-Nic, the ski-wearing electrical educator in Michael Powell’s The Boy Who Turned Yellow (1972); a Battersea-bound Yeti saved by William Hartnell in Zoo Robbery (1973); the titular giant rabbit in Mr Horatio Knibbles (1971); Glitterball (1977), a ball-bearing from space, no less; and Kadoyng (1972), the environmentally-sound alien who saves a small village from motorway obliteration. Speaking of which…
7) THE ENVIRONMENT, BEING SAVED Your bog-standard CFF kids have little time for those who would defile our endangered wildlife, as The Peregrine Hunters (1977), The Last Rhino (1961) and, er, Calamity the Cow (1967) make plain. Elsewhere pollution was the enemy, in whimsical man-seal fantasy Mr Selkie (1979) and The Battle of Billy’s Pond (1976), and even nuclear meltdown in quarrybound Welsh nailbiter One Hour to Zero (1976). Failing that, a bit of National Trust conservation is always good for a laugh: the kids saved John Pertwee’s branch line in Runaway Railway (1965), and of course the crumbling dwelling place of loveable old ghosts Jimmy Edwards, Patricia Hayes and Graham Stark was rescued from bowler-hatted demolition in A Ghost of a Chance.
8) SUPER POWERS CONFERRED BY MUNDANE OBJECT OR OCCURRENCE Providing wish-fulfilment for many a child, and an easy way of getting out of ‘scrapes’ to boot: super strength conferred by t-shirt (Sammy’s Super T-Shirt), invisibility conferred by a pair of plimsolls in Paganini Strikes Again (1973), invisibility conferred by ingestion of ‘chemical chunks’ in Where’s Johnny? (1974) and, perhaps most desperate of all, clairvoyance conferred by a bump on the head in What’s Next? (1974).
9) A DAFFY BUT LOVEABLE PROFESSOR WITH AN UNRELIABLE INVENTION The kind which, naturally, adventures could start from, such as a time machine, invented by Patrick Troughton in A Hitch in Time and John Bluthal in The Flying Sorcerer (1973), a robot in Egghead’s Robot, a teleporter in Junket 89 (1970), a sky bike in, er, The Sky Bike (1967), and superglue in Hoverbug (1969). They don’t have to be old: David Spooner invented a ‘goal repeller’ in Blinker’s Spy Spotter (1972) and, improbably, Keith Chegwin cloned his sister in The Troublesome Double (1967).
10) A BOY WITH HALF A PLASTIC FOOTBALL ON HIS HEAD As modelled by Plastic Head in gang war drama Terry on the Fence (1985). Never quite took off the way it might have.
which is very helpful, but doesn't mention loveable micro-skirted young ladies as a iconic CFF staple, so maybe she was a one-off.
Will try & investigate further.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 21:02:15 GMT
I don't recall anything about the event, but it appears that a 4-car 1938 was loaned to the Picc for filming.
In the 2 min 50 sec film -
* At 0 min 35 sec the train (set 64 I think) is arriving at Charing Cross southbound (today's Embankment). It is an 'ordinary' train and I have seen this brief shot in an official LT film.
* At 0 min 37 sec this is a proper 1938 (cab) on the Northern actually at Chalk Farm as noted by the wine red tiles scheme. However, I "think" it has been filmed running in the wrong direction as the motorman would be at the 'wall' side of the station both north- and southbound.
* I think two cars from the same unit were used in filming. Both 012207 and 12097 were in the same unit (Bakerloo 10096 - 11096).
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 30, 2015 21:17:44 GMT
* At 0 min 37 sec this is a proper 1938 (cab) on the Northern actually at Chalk Farm as noted by the wine red tiles scheme. However, I "think" it has been filmed running in the wrong direction as the motorman would be at the 'wall' side of the station both north- and southbound. You can glimpse another platform through a cross passage on the driver's side. This is only possible if the station is set up for right-hand running or there is a cross platform interchange with another line - of the lines that used 1938 stock I think that would mean Bank, London Bridge, Kennington (Northern), Oxford Circus (Bakerloo) or Finsbury Park (Piccadilly) Or the filming was done out of hours with the train running wrong-line.
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 30, 2015 21:35:15 GMT
* At 0 min 37 sec this is a proper 1938 (cab) on the Northern actually at Chalk Farm as noted by the wine red tiles scheme. However, I "think" it has been filmed running in the wrong direction as the motorman would be at the 'wall' side of the station both north- and southbound. You can glimpse another platform through a cross passage on the driver's side. This is only possible if the station is set up for left hand running or there is a cross platform interchange with another line - of the lines that used 1938 stock I think that would mean Bank, London Bridge, Kennington (Northern), Oxford Circus (Bakerloo) or Finsbury Park (Piccadilly) Or the filming was done out of hours with the train running wrong-line. Both the 'IMDb' and 'Reel Streets' web pages state that the platform shots were filmed at the Aldwych. Surely the motorman on the '38's as with all LU stock the driver/motorman is on the right hand side as you face the carriage?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 21:54:22 GMT
* At 0 min 37 sec this is a proper 1938 (cab) on the Northern actually at Chalk Farm as noted by the wine red tiles scheme. However, I "think" it has been filmed running in the wrong direction as the motorman would be at the 'wall' side of the station both north- and southbound. You can glimpse another platform through a cross passage on the driver's side. This is only possible if the station is set up for left hand running or there is a cross platform interchange with another line - of the lines that used 1938 stock I think that would mean Bank, London Bridge, Kennington (Northern), Oxford Circus (Bakerloo) or Finsbury Park (Piccadilly) Or the filming was done out of hours with the train running wrong-line. The filming was must have been done out of hours with the train running wrong line. The wine red Leslie Green tiles (many covered by adverts) can just be made out, which rules out Bank, London Bridge, Kennington (Northern), Oxford Circus (Bakerloo) or Finsbury Park (Piccadilly.
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Post by theblackferret on Nov 30, 2015 22:12:01 GMT
According to reelstreets.com: Holborn/Aldywchthe lad turned yellow gets off the train at Holborn, disused Aldwych Platform.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 22:40:56 GMT
According to reelstreets.com: Holborn/Aldywchthe lad turned yellow gets off the train at Holborn, disused Aldwych Platform. That is correct, but some sequences were filmed elsewhere (Charing Cross/Embankment and Chalk Farm) as I said in my post about an hour or so ago.
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Post by DWS on Dec 1, 2015 9:33:00 GMT
Re the Railman with 1972 Uniform , he has the right type of hat and jacket, but Railmen and women did not have white shirts, it was a blue collar grade ?
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Post by brigham on Dec 1, 2015 12:44:58 GMT
Anyone know why the woman on the platform recoils in horror because the train is yellow, instead of the usual red?
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Post by trt on Dec 1, 2015 12:45:33 GMT
The shock of the unexpected?
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Post by brigham on Dec 1, 2015 12:47:37 GMT
She must have has a very sheltered childhood!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 3, 2015 17:09:56 GMT
I don't recall anything about the event, but it appears that a 4-car 1938 was loaned to the Picc for filming. In the 2 min 50 sec film - * At 0 min 37 sec this is a proper 1938 (cab) on the Northern actually at Chalk Farm as noted by the wine red tiles scheme. However, I "think" it has been filmed running in the wrong direction as the motorman would be at the 'wall' side of the station both north- and southbound. With the use of Douglas Rose excellent publication: 'Tiles of the UnexpecteD' it looks as if Chalk Farm wasn't used, as there were no blue/green tiles there. Holborn also had wine red tiles on the platforms: both © Douglas Rose.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 11:15:44 GMT
I'll go with that. All done at Holborn.
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Post by theblackferret on Dec 4, 2015 11:29:10 GMT
I'll go with that. All done at Holborn. Yes, the blue is also spottable in a passageway on the clip, both on entry and arrival-around 0.22 & 2.48 respectively.
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Post by nickf on Dec 4, 2015 13:15:44 GMT
There was a song about this boy, was there not? Ol' Yeller? Or was that a dog? I grow confused.
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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 4, 2015 14:27:23 GMT
There was a song about this boy, was there not? Ol' Yeller? Or was that a dog? I grow confused. Yes it was a dog. A Walt Disney saccharine film starring Fess Parker
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Post by nickf on Dec 4, 2015 15:52:27 GMT
Did Fess Parker also play Davy Crockett in another film? Imitation coon-skin caps were all the rage when the film came out: cats went around with a hunted look in their eyes.
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Post by theblackferret on Dec 4, 2015 16:41:19 GMT
Did Fess Parker also play Davy Crockett in another film? Imitation coon-skin caps were all the rage when the film came out: cats went around with a hunted look in their eyes. Yes-it came out in 1955, may've been 1956 over here. And in 1957 on TV here-Hawkeye (portrayed by did-one-season-of-Lone Ranger on TV-then-they-got-Clayton-Moore-back-woodentop John Hart)and The Last of The Mohicans (played by distinctly un-Indian horror star Lon Chaney Jr.). And the latter series was the reason the 5yo me got HIS Davy Crockett hat & gunbelt! Even better was the 6yo me getting a Lone Ranger grey hat, black mask AND silver-bullet gunbelt with TWO holsters & revolvers. And, to save @reganorak more work, nobody turned yellow in the colour film & I haven't seen any evidence of Hurons being routed by Chingatsgook (Lon's character)or Hawkeye changing colours. Also, I think I can safely say LT was not used in the filming of the motion picture, nor shooting of the TV series.
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Post by nickf on Dec 4, 2015 17:10:57 GMT
....A different Hawkeye from the one with Trapper John and Hotlips! Heavens - we have strayed considerably off topic!!!!
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Post by brigham on Dec 4, 2015 18:17:28 GMT
Sorry to be boring, but IS that Carol Royle?
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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 4, 2015 18:23:21 GMT
Sorry to be boring, but IS that Carol Royle? That's what I thought as well, but apparently she's not
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Post by theblackferret on Dec 4, 2015 18:28:23 GMT
Sorry to be boring, but IS that Carol Royle? Judge for yourself vide the photos here: CarolRAnd the images on the 2'52" clip. I think the nose is key here, rather than the lack of claiming to be in TBWTY on her appearances.
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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 4, 2015 18:38:52 GMT
Sorry to be boring, but IS that Carol Royle? Judge for yourself vide the photos here: CarolRAnd the images on the 2'52" clip. I think the nose is key here, rather than the lack of claiming to be in TBWTY on her appearances. Who is looking at her nose?
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