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Post by pauluni on Apr 17, 2015 11:38:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 19:14:35 GMT
They are looking rather good. Thanks for posting.
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Post by metman on Apr 17, 2015 20:54:48 GMT
Not sure. Look a bit cheap and plastic. Can't put my finger on it.
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Post by pauluni on Apr 17, 2015 21:34:56 GMT
I forgot to mention that model 9004 has changed from 'Sarah Siddons' in current Metropolitan livery to 'John Hampden' in current London Transport livery.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 22:59:58 GMT
I look forward to seeing these in the flesh. i wonder if they might be a sample at Acton next weekend.
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Post by The Tram Man on Apr 18, 2015 0:13:22 GMT
Not sure. Look a bit cheap and plastic. Can't put my finger on it. Yeah, i'd have to agree on that. However, they are pre-production models, so that could change. |
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Post by metman on Apr 18, 2015 7:22:56 GMT
Hope so or I'll repaint them!!
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Post by bassmike on Apr 19, 2015 11:29:44 GMT
I think the "cheap plasticky" appearance (going by the enlarged catologue photo) is mainly the bright red underframe. This could easily be cured.
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Post by pauluni on Aug 20, 2015 15:21:38 GMT
According to the Gaugemaster website the LT livered models (1, 8 'Sherlock Holmes' & 5 'John Hampden') are due this month and the Met livered models (20 & 9 'John Milton') are due in September. www.gaugemaster.com/news/Heljan-News-August-2015 |
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Post by pauluni on Aug 26, 2015 10:33:18 GMT
The LT livered models have arrived at Heljan and should be making their way to retailers. The Met livered models are due in September. The model of Sarah Siddons is still planned but will be in a future batch. |
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Post by metman on Aug 31, 2015 16:58:59 GMT
Look ok. The war time grey looks a little clean considering at the time there would have been a reduced maintenance and cleaning schedule. I really want no11 in grey so I'll probably dull down the grey with an ink wash and look to re number it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 11:23:49 GMT
No 1 in grey and Nos 5 & 8 in LT livery now appear to be available for purchase. Hattons has them at £107 each and my No 8 is already on its way :-D
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Post by bassmike on Sept 2, 2015 15:23:22 GMT
Just recieved "Sherlock Holmes" from Model rlys: direct. (£107 + £3.99 pp) Looks pretty good and very well packed. Even has spring buffers and minute but detatchable three-link coupling. The general appearance and presentation box look identical to the Bachmann epb's etc. Probably produced bu the same Chinese firm.
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Post by MoreToJack on Sept 3, 2015 15:41:36 GMT
I have rather a few of these on order... Hattons have marked a couple for dispatch so looking forward to their arrival...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 16:01:46 GMT
Sherlock Holmes is wending his way ......!  XF |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 20:55:17 GMT
I've Nos. 5 & 8 supplied by Hattons, excellent price and service. I'm really impressed with the models and they are now part of a static display of Underground models, just need some suitable train stock!
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Post by brigham on Oct 1, 2015 15:29:32 GMT
"Baker Street & Moorgate". That must be a fictional working, surely?
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 1, 2015 18:55:54 GMT
"Baker Street & Moorgate". That must be a fictional working, surely? Its doable... perhaps there have been times when trains really did travel between just these two stations (via Kings Cross). Whether these trains would have been of the type which used unpowered passenger carriages which were hauled by electric locomotives is a different story. Simon |
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Post by metman on Oct 1, 2015 22:10:00 GMT
Maybe in the war but I think it is more to get a London bound choice of destination. I wonder how often trains terminated at Moorgate? There were quite a few starters in the 40s and 50s from Moorgate but these were for Uxbridge/Watford mainly. Liverpool street had a short loco spur for a spare loco to lay over in so this was the most common point of departure for these trains in the peaks. There were a few Aldgate starters too.....
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Post by johnb2 on Oct 2, 2015 8:49:08 GMT
Maybe in the war but I think it is more to get a London bound choice of destination. I wonder how often trains terminated at Moorgate? There were quite a few starters in the 40s and 50s from Moorgate but these were for Uxbridge/Watford mainly. Liverpool street had a short loco spur for a spare loco to lay over in so this was the most common point of departure for these trains in the peaks. There were a few Aldgate starters too..... That's my view too on the destinations. As far as I can recall the loco hauleds usually ran to Baker Street and Liverpool Street (in the peaks) as I don't recall either Moorgate or Aldgate having loco holding facilities. In the case of Aldgate there wasn't the space and trying to shunt a loco around there would have caused delays to other services. Not so sure about Moorgate. As regards starters from Aldgate and Moorgate, in the off peaks there were trains stabled there, probably the last incoming morning peak trains just stayed there until the evening. Just my recollections going back some 55 years (OUCH!) John |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 17:57:38 GMT
Aldgate did have a loco spur. It was used regularly until the early-1940s but remained available to use in emeregency (e.g. failures at Liverpool Street) until decommissioned in January 1964.
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Post by johnb2 on Oct 2, 2015 19:55:33 GMT
Thanks for that info, so it lasted until just after the loco hauleds had ceased. Was it used often post the '40s?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 20:41:22 GMT
Very rarely, only during failures (at Liverpool Street), although it might have been used on special occasions.
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Post by metman on Oct 3, 2015 7:23:34 GMT
The spur was between platforms 3 and 4 I think ie next to the inner rail platform 4.
I thought trains were stabled in the city inter peak and I think this carried on well into A stock days too.
I'm going to order myself a grey bobo I think!
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Post by johnb2 on Oct 3, 2015 8:45:03 GMT
I'm going to order myself a grey bobo I think! Go on! Spoil yourself metman  . It's a lovely model and mine runs very smoothly. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 18:38:24 GMT
Aldgate did have a loco spur. It was used regularly until the early-1940s but remained available to use in emeregency (e.g. failures at Liverpool Street) until decommissioned in January 1964. The last timetabled use of Aldgate by electric locos was 1942. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 3, 2015 21:29:19 GMT
Undated but grouping-era track diagram of Moorgate. No loco spur shown on the Met platforms although they were evident on platforms 5 and 6 (LMS/LNER). (were the Widened line electrified?) www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-6371-0-06034400-1295805276.jpgLoco operation would have been possible with that layout. Loco released from the stops by a departing train can wait on the connection to the Circle or the CWL until the next arrival. "Baker Street and Moorgate" doesn't necessarily mean a shuttle - it could be coming from darkest Metroland. (EDIT - I left the link out!) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 21:56:09 GMT
15.03.26 - Electrification of ‘Up’ CWL King’s Cross – Moorgate and ‘Down’ line Moorgate – Farringdon.
26.05.35 - Abolition of King’s Cross Up Circle Line Junction and connection to Up CWL. CWL de-electrified. (Current rail disconnections made with effect from 11.08.35.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 20:29:26 GMT
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Post by brigham on Oct 15, 2015 14:40:56 GMT
...Which answers the question nicely. There are sometimes said to be THREE examples surviving. Which is the third? |
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. It's a lovely model and mine runs very smoothly.
