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Post by revupminster on Sept 28, 2015 17:36:26 GMT
I know thw branch trains come onto the main line but the speeds are so low even for the 125's it makes no difference. The 125's crawl over the Royal Albert Bridge
This is Dawlish after the repair
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Post by superteacher on Oct 25, 2015 9:16:47 GMT
No need for a train wash on that day!
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Post by christopher125 on Nov 11, 2015 1:49:41 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Nov 15, 2015 12:49:17 GMT
A link to a Youtube video was posted in another rail forum today showing the Class 230 in action in August 2015: |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 15, 2015 13:48:06 GMT
A link to a Youtube video ................... showing the Class 230 in action in August 2015: It doesn't show the class 230 at all, except for a couple of seconds of the floor at the end! |
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Post by domh245 on Nov 15, 2015 15:01:10 GMT
You pedant you! Would it have been better phrased as "A video of the Long Marston test track as filmed from the rear of a railway vehicle, which I am led to believe is the class 230 demonstrator"  |
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Post by stapler on Nov 15, 2015 22:33:59 GMT
Does anyone know how much Vivarail are paying LU per car?
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Post by phillw48 on Nov 16, 2015 16:43:12 GMT
A link to a Youtube video was posted in another rail forum today showing the Class 230 in action in August 2015: Interesting rolling stock in the background, including a GWR Siphon. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 18:40:32 GMT
A link to a Youtube video was posted in another rail forum today showing the Class 230 in action in August 2015: Shame he didn't do a look around the cab shot as I'd like to see the changes to the cab rather than just a rear eye drivers view. |
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Post by domh245 on Nov 21, 2015 19:07:59 GMT
No videos of the cab (yet) but I've found a few photos. First, a mockup of the new cab: www.vivarail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1187-Vivarail-Cab-Mockup-300315.jpgNote the surplus to requirement buttons above the headlight controls. Then there is a shot from the cab of the demonstrator www.vivarail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/17-8-2.jpgWhich is in all likelihood going to be more like the final version Edit: There is also a small photo in the Roger Ford article showing the driver's LHS panels, however it is quite small, and blatantly mislabelled! Mr Ford describes it as 'The finished article' when it can quite clearly be seen that the 'buttons' are all stickers! I imagine the photo that I linked will also be stickered buttons |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 1:20:21 GMT
No videos of the cab (yet) but I've found a few photos. First, a mockup of the new cab: www.vivarail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1187-Vivarail-Cab-Mockup-300315.jpgNote the surplus to requirement buttons above the headlight controls. Then there is a shot from the cab of the demonstrator www.vivarail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/17-8-2.jpgWhich is in all likelihood going to be more like the final version Edit: There is also a small photo in the Roger Ford article showing the driver's LHS panels, however it is quite small, and blatantly mislabelled! Mr Ford describes it as 'The finished article' when it can quite clearly be seen that the 'buttons' are all stickers! I imagine the photo that I linked will also be stickered buttons Cheers. I see from that first link they actually used a proper D stock drivers seat in that mockup. |
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Post by domh245 on Dec 24, 2015 9:49:11 GMT
A new video has appeared of a single car taking off from a stand
I expect that at that acceleration, people would be falling over!
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Post by stapler on Dec 24, 2015 10:09:16 GMT
Could you dream up a worse livery, or one more likely to put off possible purchasers?!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 24, 2015 11:25:44 GMT
Quite a meaty engine noise - enthusiasts will like it, but for the passengers' sakes I hope there is some decent sound insulation.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Dec 24, 2015 13:19:13 GMT
Still sounds ever so slightly like a D stock. I am happy.
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Post by superteacher on Dec 24, 2015 13:37:19 GMT
A new video has appeared of a single car taking off from a stand I expect that at that acceleration, people would be falling over! I imagine the acceleration is greater because all the power is being used to move one car. Still impressive though! |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Dec 24, 2015 14:25:54 GMT
Could you dream up a worse livery, or one more likely to put off possible purchasers?! It is a bit naff but I'd hope that purchase would be based on sound economic and engineering reasons as opposed to a weird paint job. |
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Post by stapler on Dec 24, 2015 17:39:42 GMT
Of course. But surprising how little things matter to not such expert punters
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Dec 24, 2015 18:53:16 GMT
Of course. But surprising how little things matter to not such expert punters  I was a buyer once.....a long time ago. Any attempt to kid me with mutton dressed as lamb or any other superficiality got short shrift. I was only interested in the technical and monetary aspects. I'd assume that the punters in this case are experts in the field and think the same way! The paint job is neither here nor there is it? It's easily rectified. Merry Christmas to you stapler!  |
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Post by rail2210 on Dec 24, 2015 19:39:14 GMT
A new video has appeared of a single car taking off from a stand I expect that at that acceleration, people would be falling over! I imagine the acceleration is greater because all the power is being used to move one car. Still impressive though! I doubt it would accelerate that fast with a full and standing passenger load! |
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Post by metman on Dec 25, 2015 9:31:01 GMT
Looks like a big train set!!
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Post by rincew1nd on Dec 26, 2015 11:39:39 GMT
Still sounds ever so slightly like a D stock. I am happy. If you were to take away the noise of the diesel engines, it could easily be an LU D stock. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 17:35:47 GMT
Still sounds ever so slightly like a D stock. I am happy. If you were to take away the noise of the diesel engines, it could easily be an LU D stock. It uses the original motors so I imagine it would. I am glad they live on  |
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Post by domh245 on Dec 26, 2015 17:46:19 GMT
You'd also have to account for the strukon rail inverters which will add some noise
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Dec 26, 2015 17:55:54 GMT
Doesn't it look funny shooting off with one carriage like that? It is worth remembering that the noise the passengers hear will be dulled by the platforms deflection as it pulls in and out of the stations. I wouldn't mind seeing them up in Scunthorpe although I've only ever caught three trains to and from here in 28 years so I doubt it'd be much value to me personally!  |
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Post by melikepie on Dec 27, 2015 17:55:17 GMT
Could you dream up a worse livery, or one more likely to put off possible purchasers?! It is a bit naff but I'd hope that purchase would be based on sound economic and engineering reasons as opposed to a weird paint job. Actually I like the paint job ---- Separately do you think that it will ever return to the subsurface lines in its new form? |
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Post by domh245 on Dec 27, 2015 19:42:31 GMT
It is incredibly unlikely that it will return as a 230 - SWT and LO have no reason to obtain them which prevents them appearing over the shared tracks. They certainly wouldn't appear in the core sections as they won't have the necessary signalling systems installed (or performance for that matter)
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Post by revupminster on Dec 28, 2015 7:38:50 GMT
Seeing the acceleration on the video the trains would suit the branch lines in Cornwall and Devon such as St Erth to St Ives where the existing turn round time is about 2 minutes. Paignton- Exmouth is problematic where they want a half hour service and at the moment takes 90 minutes.
I said earlier though these trains would need to be seaworthy as this morning Cross-Country trains are not running between Exeter and Newton Abbot due to bad weather at Dawlish because South Easterly winds and high tide. Easterly winds which do not happen very often are fatal to all trains there.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 28, 2015 12:01:31 GMT
I said earlier though these trains would need to be seaworthy as this morning Cross-Country trains are not running between Exeter and Newton Abbot due to bad weather at Dawlish because South Easterly winds and high tide. Cross country's Voyagers are more vulnerable than most because of roof-mounted electrical equipment which no-one thought to test against waves breaking over them - they were tested for rainwater, but that tends to come in smaller volumes and is not such a good electrolyte. I would imagine a Ford Transit diesel would be no better and no worse than any other (as fans of Scrapheap Challenge will know, diesel engines, having no need of spark ignition, can even work when submerged), although newer ones with electronic fuel injection systems may need to be protected. Nearly all loco-hauled traction along the sea wall have electric transmission, as do HSTs, and they seem to manage. D stock traction motors manage in wet weather. |
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Post by antharro on Dec 28, 2015 19:58:51 GMT
I doubt it would accelerate that fast with a full and standing passenger load! I recall our founder Dave telling me that there wasn't much difference in acceleration between an empty D-stock and a standing room only full D-stock. So I figure the train would draw more power to be able to maintain a similar acceleration profile. So as long as the generators in the 'D' Train are capable of providing enough power then I don't see there would be a problem. I would imagine a Ford Transit diesel would be no better and no worse than any other (as fans of Scrapheap Challenge will know, diesel engines, having no need of spark ignition, can even work when submerged), although newer ones with electronic fuel injection systems may need to be protected. How does that work then? Diesel engine + water = no oxygen, and worse, hydrolocked...? |
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I was a buyer once.....a long time ago. Any attempt to kid me with mutton dressed as lamb or any other superficiality got short shrift. I was only interested in the technical and monetary aspects. I'd assume that the punters in this case are experts in the field and think the same way! The paint job is neither here nor there is it? It's easily rectified. Merry Christmas to you 
