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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 0:16:22 GMT
why interlocking signalling was not used to restore normal running within the confines of the WC station site, which would not have required the fly-under between WC and East Acton. I'd go with the simplest answer: not wanting to have the service in both directions relying on a flat crossing. There was also that the extension made use of a pre-existing line.
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Post by castlebar on Apr 22, 2014 8:02:07 GMT
It works
It doesn't need "fixing"
Why change it and waste money completely unnecessarily, (unless of course it bothers some people so much they are prepared to have it altered with their own personal money. But not mine, thanks. I can think of far better things to spend the money on).
It is a historic accident. Leave it be.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 15:16:26 GMT
It should be remembered that when the extension westwards from Wood Lane opened in 1920, trains continued to call at the expanded Wood Lane station. White City station opened with the North Acton - West Ruislip extension in 1947; it would have provided a less cramped layout than Wood Lane for the additional services to & from the new line and a better arrangement for terminating trains (no moveable platform for a start!) The flyover for restoring left-hand running predates White City; it would have been the best location for it, a relatively straight section and well away from the stations either side and from sharp curves.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 16:01:28 GMT
Given the amount of space that was available to build WC station - is there any info on what was there before the Wood Lane - Ealing Extension? Was there a GWR goods depot that ran back off the E & SB?
I know that the E & SB has been discussed at length but it has always puzzled me as to why the GWR needed a freight-only line from Viaduct Junction on the WLL when it already had access to the WLL at Mitre Bridge. The beginnings of the line from Viaduct Junction was to deliver construction materials for the 1908 Olympic site. Was the WC station site something to do with that?
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Post by castlebar on Apr 22, 2014 16:55:49 GMT
Just north east of White City station was the United Dairies' "Wood Lane" milk depot. Milk trains arrived there for years, and it was served by both the WLL and the GWR link, running parallel to the Central Line all the way to the GWR's NNML at North Acton where the GWR built a junction. This latter GWR line was there and visible although unused until about 1970(ish). Until fairly recent years the milk depot could still be seen under the motorway bridge.
I am not aware that there was ever a link from the GWR to the Central Line there or at North Acton
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 18:56:38 GMT
R.A. Cooke's Atlas of the Great Western Railway 1947 shows (as pecked lines, denoting removed before 1947) shows a W/B crossover from the GWR joining the E&SB where the E/B E&SB dives under the W/B; and a crossover (going W) from the E&SB to the GWR west of North Acton and just east of the junction of the Ealing and West Ruislip lines.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 23:40:28 GMT
The E&SB was a GWR project: originally to go to a new (GWR) terminus at Shepherds Bush, with interchange onto the CLR, it was changed to have a link from the CLR at Wood Lane, with CLR having running powers through to Ealing - this is how it was built. Originally there was just one pair of tracks for both CL & GW trains, with connections to the rest of the GWR at Ealing Broadway and North Acton; while from 'Wood Lane Junction' - where the Central Line tracks reverse position, the flyover was part of the junction arrangement - east there were seperate tracks to Woood Lane CLR, and to Viaduct Junction on the WLR. A seperate pair of tracks was later (late 1930s IIRC) built for GWR use between North Acton and Wood Lane Junction, and the various connctions taken out (though it all remained GWR owned until 1948).
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Post by Tom on May 27, 2014 16:42:38 GMT
R.A. Cooke's Atlas of the Great Western Railway 1947 shows (as pecked lines, denoting removed before 1947) shows a W/B crossover from the GWR joining the E&SB where the E/B E&SB dives under the W/B; and a crossover (going W) from the E&SB to the GWR west of North Acton and just east of the junction of the Ealing and West Ruislip lines. Photos of both connections are in the 1993 Edition of Rails Through The Clay, pages 135 (Du Cane Road connecion) and 136 (North Acton Connection). The name 'North Acton Junction' thus goes back further than the 1948 junction between the Ealing and Ruislip branches of the Central Line, but to the 1920 junction of the E&SB and GWR.
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