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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 1:20:45 GMT
Are there rules about when trains must be operated from the front and when they can/must be operated from the door panels? Something I have always wondered. I have noticed that night services tend to be operated from the front seats.
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Post by rsdworker on Dec 7, 2013 14:38:20 GMT
they normally not use front when automatic mode is on unless if control centre has problems with system which requires PSAs to opearate from front in manual mode but when train is in full automatic mode - PSA can operate from door panel (not in Manual mode)
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Post by pib on Dec 7, 2013 20:34:45 GMT
We need to differentiate between normal automatic operation from the EDP (emergency driving position), and Manual Operation.
Manual Operation is only used when the train cannot be moved automatically, generally caused by a loss of communication between the train and the control system. This is done only on the express orders of the control room and to an agreed stop point. As you probably know, speed is very limited for manual operation.
You will see a PSA up front with the train in automatic mode for a number of reasons. These include, 1st train of the day (sweeper), windy conditions (track obstructions), track side works particularly operating cranes, faulty CCTV, non-stopping train and a host of others.
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Post by Fahad on Jan 5, 2014 23:03:14 GMT
Surely in the event of faulty CCTV/mirrors, the train should not be operated from the front, but from the doors, looking up and down the platform?
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 6, 2014 0:26:41 GMT
Operating from a doorway without a window doesn't allow a full train check after gaining the doors closed indication. This is one benefit of keeping Guards over DOO on the big railway.
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Post by rsdworker on Jan 6, 2014 11:10:20 GMT
Operating from a doorway without a window doesn't allow a full train check after gaining the doors closed indication. This is one benefit of keeping Guards over DOO on the big railway. in european countries - crezh and holland and speicifc countries - the trains have guard doors which stays open during departure with guard looking out (those doors don't have openable window |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2014 15:41:53 GMT
We need to differentiate between normal automatic operation from the EDP (emergency driving position), and Manual Operation. Manual Operation is only used when the train cannot be moved automatically, generally caused by a loss of communication between the train and the control system. This is done only on the express orders of the control room and to an agreed stop point. As you probably know, speed is very limited for manual operation. You will see a PSA up front with the train in automatic mode for a number of reasons. These include, 1st train of the day (sweeper), windy conditions (track obstructions), track side works particularly operating cranes, faulty CCTV, non-stopping train and a host of others. Another hint that the train is being manually operated is that the hazard lights on the unit will be flashing, this can be seen the best on the newer stock but does also happen on the older trains. |
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