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Post by metrailway on Oct 27, 2013 16:47:59 GMT
According to media reports tonight's storm will be the worst since 1987. Have LUL/LO taken any measures to deal with the effects of the storm?
On the Mainline, Greater Anglia, Southern and FCC have already stated that they will not run trains before 0900 on Monday, Southeastern most likely will not run trains before 0900 or 1000, SWT not running before 0800 and a 50mph limit for the day, and East Coast and C2C are running an amended timetable.
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 27, 2013 16:56:06 GMT
LO has stated - no trains before 0900 (see twitter)
LUL - some lines are underground - so some will still operate
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Post by Chris M on Oct 27, 2013 17:39:50 GMT
LUL - some lines are underground - so some will still operate That assumes the trains can get from the depot to the tunnels, and the relevant substations have power. |
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 27, 2013 17:45:45 GMT
LUL - some lines are underground - so some will still operate That assumes the trains can get from the depot to the tunnels, and the relevant substations have power. waterloo and city (all underground) Victirca has depot above ground but most of line is underground |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 27, 2013 17:59:01 GMT
Indeed, the W&C should be unaffected as long as it has power and the depot doesn't flood.
Victoria probably wont be affected but there is sufficient above ground running that disruption is possible. I think that last time there was a problem getting trains out the depot a four train Kings Cross-Victoria shuttle was run using the units stabled at Walthamstow and Brixton.
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 27, 2013 18:03:40 GMT
but drivers/operators have to get to their trains.
May be difficult without main line trains.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 18:21:41 GMT
With the big storm of October 1987, the Waterloo & City didn't operate, not because of storm damage, but because there was a lack of train staff. Motormen then worked on both the main line and the W&C, so priority had to be given to the main line. Guards were on a separate roster and confined to "the Drain".
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 27, 2013 18:32:05 GMT
With the big storm of October 1987, the Waterloo & City didn't operate, not because of storm damage, but because there was a lack of train staff. Motormen then worked on both the main line and the W&C, so priority had to be given to the main line. Guards were on a separate roster and confined to "the Drain". yeah but today - only drivers now (guards are long gone) |
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Post by messiah on Oct 27, 2013 18:38:48 GMT
LO has stated - no trains before 0900 (see twitter) I went on the TFL website, and can't see any useful information. It says: "Stormy conditions are expected to affect London on Sunday night and Monday morning. Road users are advised to take extra care. All road and public transport users are advised to check for the latest updates before travelling with service providers and www.metoffice.gov.uk." Have I missed something there, or is LO sufficiently independent of TFL that updating this information on the TFL website is not a priority? |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 27, 2013 18:39:52 GMT
Depending on the staff availability on other lines, t/ops rostered for the W&C may end up driving on the Central Line.
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Post by phillw48 on Oct 27, 2013 18:56:52 GMT
If the mainline companies are not starting until 8 or 9 o'clock will it be worth opening the W&C before those times?
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Post by Jerome H on Oct 27, 2013 18:58:09 GMT
If the mainline companies are not starting until 8 or 9 o'clock will it be worth opening the W&C before those times? Not really, the passengers and drivers are all going to be missing |
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Post by metrailway on Oct 27, 2013 19:28:44 GMT
Update on Mainline services:
Speed restrictions between Rugby and London Euston affecting London Midland and Virgin services in the morning, EMT not running any trains in/out of St Pancras until around 1000.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 19:43:30 GMT
What is the chance of a High Barnet-East Finchley closure tomorrow morning?... hopefully not.
Presumably part of the issue with mainline services are the overhead lines, though clearly if there was a significant risk of trees falling on to the line there would be no option but to suspend.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 21:12:10 GMT
With the big storm of October 1987, the Waterloo & City didn't operate, not because of storm damage, but because there was a lack of train staff. Motormen then worked on both the main line and the W&C, so priority had to be given to the main line. Guards were on a separate roster and confined to "the Drain". yeah but today - only drivers now (guards are long gone) Correct - but Train Ops still have to get to the W&C (from Leytonstone). |
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 28, 2013 6:33:40 GMT
so far Waterloo and city is open and all undergound network is open - its much better compared in 1987s
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 9:19:43 GMT
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Post by domh245 on Oct 28, 2013 9:24:13 GMT
Currently, all lines apart from the Hammersmith & City, Victoria, and Waterloo & City are suspended or part suspended, all of them due to "obsructions" on the track. I'd hate to be in the ERU or in the control centre today!
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Post by Chris M on Oct 28, 2013 10:16:57 GMT
A short time ago the whole of the Jubilee had concurrent minor delays and severe delays, which is quite impressive! It's just minor delays now.
The High Barnet branch was part suspended due to a faulty train, which may or may not be weather related.
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Post by bicbasher on Oct 28, 2013 11:23:06 GMT
Currently, the only section of London Overground open is the ELL core.
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 28, 2013 13:39:55 GMT
yeah i am surprised that most lines coped well now - unlike in 1987 - where alot of disruptions even waterloo and city now operating by LUL compared to BR in 1987
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Post by greatcentral on Oct 28, 2013 15:08:09 GMT
But in 1987 the winds were much stronger and there was the wonderful Met Line announcement. " Services are suspended due to North Harrow station buildings blowing on to the track." I am surprised to see that it was rebuilt in wood.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 15:27:43 GMT
I have a couple of pictures of the ealing common incident but no where to upload them
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 28, 2013 16:27:56 GMT
I have a couple of pictures of the ealing common incident but no where to upload them The photo, between Hangar Lane junction and Ealing Common is DistrictSOM's  |
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