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Post by ongarparknride on Mar 18, 2007 17:30:06 GMT
Anyone interested in this thread subject will know that in the UK there are are bare handful of model suppliers. I ermphasise this is NOT intended as a sales or promotional thread, and I won't profit from it. Hence I trust it won't contravene posting "netiquette" here.
I found a friend, Ian, on www surfing who kindly emailed me some private pictures of his loft LT-based layout, and has kindly agreed to post his WWW link here for anyone else who is interested to share.
His website link will follow here.
As to anyone similarly wanting to model a 4-rail "tube" line, I can offer some ex-PC "ribbon" cabling to simulate lineside wiring. I believe the only commercial supplier of "third" and "fourth" rails and insulators is "Peco" and I trust anyone here who can offer those at a bit of a discount will be permitted to post their link to offer assistance to us fellow budget-modellers.
I trust starting this thread will in no way be seen as an abuse of this site - simply because I love the LT tube system (especially the former Epping-Ongar Branch) and now live in West Norfolk
and wish to follow my heart despite having no prospects of following You Other Guys Here who are shortly facing a Billion Passengers Per Year In Real Life.
So, assuming this thread is OK by the Administrators here so it doesn't get pulled nor myself banned, please could you add any and all LT model layouts etc. for those of us that get pleasure from "creating our own reality". ?
Ian has kindly offered to request the Administrators here for posting registration to answer any questions raised about his modelling. I repeat, emphasis, this thread has not been posted for any promotional reasons.
cheers,
OngarParkNRide
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Post by ongarparknride on Mar 19, 2007 19:44:56 GMT
My apologies for the delay in providing the link. Please view all Ian's "stuff" at his website: mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ianckirbyAND THEN click on his link towards the bottom of that page to his "Model Railway". Of course, you might well appreciate his other pix there ...  I have Ian's permission to post this link in the hopes it will be of interest to some of you Modellers here, and I have introduced him to DD's website here. He will keep an eye on the responses, and is happy to apply for Membership to post Replies to any enquiries here. I understand that like myself, he has somewhat irregular times to relax contributing to friendly forums, and perhaps you would respect his time by asking any questions or raising comments etc. HERE on this thread rather than emailing him directly. I hope that is a courtesy you will all appreciate. Cheers, Enjoy his layout, And please keep the "rivet-counting" comments polite !!! OngarParkNRide |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2007 20:47:08 GMT
Amazing layout. Great job Ian. The trackwork and cabling detail is just fantastic. Do you exhibit the layout?
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Post by Phil on Mar 19, 2007 22:47:53 GMT
Quite astounding - and with admin hat on this is exactly the sort of thing we like to see brought to our attention. Thanks OPR.
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Post by ongarparknride on Mar 20, 2007 0:49:27 GMT
wheresmyamersham, I'm sure Ian will read your compliments and appreciate them. Please excuse me just mentioning from my OP that his layout is loft-based, hence unlikely to be publicly exhibited.
Speaking for myself, I'm glad a couple of you here agree with me that the detail and quality of his modelling deserves Recognition.
I'm adding a "plug" of my own: my interests include electronics etc. related to railway modelling ( This is all true but just in jest, OK? ) so that I can provide a digital "soundbite" PCB audio announcement ( like Sonya) lasting several seconds that could be actuated by mercury/reed switch or similar circuit operated by an incoming train. The principle is using "chips" such as in "speaking" greetings cards etc. with which I guess many of you will be familiar.
Anyone with modelling interests, please DO contribute here. We might build up a small group of specialist interest people who can share information in Tribute to the guys who have the hassle of running the Real Thing :-)
cheers,
OngarParkNRide
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Post by mandgc on Mar 20, 2007 9:01:45 GMT
Congratulations on your impressive Underground Layout. The Holden style of architecture makes a refreshing change from the usual cardboard kits seen in the present day magazine layouts and the wealth of kits ,etc. for LUL trains available now make for an interesting variation.
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Post by Colin D on Mar 20, 2007 12:23:40 GMT
WOW that looks amazing, I'll have to check it out more closely later on when I have more time
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Post by Tubeboy on Mar 20, 2007 12:47:25 GMT
Very impressive, except for the 95ts, and the strange thing is, its a Metromodels one!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2007 13:24:18 GMT
Amazing layout. Great job Ian. The trackwork and cabling detail is just fantastic. Do you exhibit the layout? Hi As ongarparknride states it is a loft built layout so no I don't show at exhibitions Thanks for all the other kind comments I will answer any questions when I can Regards Ian |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2007 13:34:38 GMT
Very impressive, except for the 95ts, and the strange thing is, its a Metromodels one! Not quite sure what you mean? perhaps you could explain Ian |
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Post by cetacean on Mar 20, 2007 13:51:32 GMT
Looking at the first photo, am I right in thinking a 1959 stock in the current corporate livery never happened in real life?
(and in fact, no other now-retired types have had it?)
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Post by Tubeboy on Mar 20, 2007 13:53:43 GMT
Well it has no windows and doesnt look very accurate.
The other trains look very impressive, especially the 38ts.
The 95ts picture I am looking at is the close-up one.
Maybe I am just too picky! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2007 14:21:07 GMT
Looking at the first photo, am I right in thinking a 1959 stock in the current corporate livery never happened in real life? (and in fact, no other now-retired types have had it?)  I believe this was a prototype livery carried for about a year Ian |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2007 14:30:20 GMT
Well it has no windows and doesnt look very accurate. The other trains look very impressive, especially the 38ts. The 95ts picture I am looking at is the close-up one. Maybe I am just too picky! ;D Ok point taken, perhaps the photo doesn't do the model justice but it was taken prior to me adding the glazing, I will update the website with some up to date photos when time permits. The 95TS is an excellent model in my opinion. Ian |
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Post by mowat on Mar 20, 2007 15:49:26 GMT
Looking at the first photo, am I right in thinking a 1959 stock in the current corporate livery never happened in real life? (and in fact, no other now-retired types have had it?) Units 1028 and 1043 were painted in LUL's red white & blue livery in 1993 1028-2028-9029-1029: - Withdrawn from Northern Line service on 1/4/1999; - From Edgware to Ruislip (with 1259 unit) withdrawn stock for Scrap on 13/4/1999; - From Ruislip to Mayer Parry, Newmarket (by rail) for scrap on 23/4/1999. 1042-2042-1043: - Withdrawn from Northern Line service on 11/8/1999, and transferred from Golders Green to Ruislip (with 1176 unit) on same day. - From Ruislip to Mayer Parry, Newmarket (by rail) for scrap on 23/8/1999. See the link for my post on it districtdave.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1148652905 |
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Post by russe on Mar 20, 2007 15:55:49 GMT
I believe the only commercial supplier of "third" and "fourth" rails and insulators is "Peco" Not quite, ongarparknride. The Scalefour Society supply, to its members only, scale conductor rail section, scale ramps, and scale insulator supports. See here and here. Having been involved in the development of all of these items, I have to declare an interest, but it is not a commercial one, merely a modeller's one. As you say, the number of LT-related model suppliers are few in number, but worth checking out are Marc Models, Radley Models and Metro Models. Russ |
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Post by ongarparknride on Mar 20, 2007 23:33:38 GMT
Hi, if I can add a few comments as the OP. First, I am delighted that Ian has joined here, and that so many of you have agreed with me his efforts are really remarkable in modelling the LU. As an aside I refer to my earlier introductory remark: "And please keep the "rivet-counting" comments polite !!!" that has brought the rivet-counters out of the closet, but thankfully in good nature. I understand there are some LU Modelling Societies that are or have been active, and vaguely recollect the Central Line group being accomodated in a "no-longer-in-active-service-station-tunnelling-space" allocated to it. Although currently living in West Norfolk with unfortunately no likely imminent prospects of visiting London, perhaps if any such modelling groups still exist and have "Open Nights" where an enthusiast outsider such as myself could visit, PLEASE COULD DETAILS BE POSTED UP HERE? And my final point, I have been aware of the existance of the Protofour Group for many years - I think from indeed their early days when I could afford my subscription to "Railway Modeller" monthly. I am therefore grateful for RussE's post immediately above, and echo that my motive for posting here is to share enjoyment and skills in Modelling, and not in any way for personal profit or commercial promotion. The initial investment in adding a "tube train" to a model layout is pretty high, with purchasing a Metromodels motorised unit, plus the cost and time in constructing realistic 4 rail trackwork. The initial scope relies on perhaps modifying Peco Settrack or Hornby track to form an island platform, visible, with Y points at each end into hidden tunnels, so as to provide a semi-automatic or automatic "low-level" "tube" service to an existing layout. Prototype being the original narrow island platforms provided as at the "Angel" before it was rebuilt, and currently topical in view of last Sunday's (18/3/07) "40 Minutes" broadcast of the pre-rebuilding Angel station. Cheers, OngarParkNRide |
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Post by mandgc on Mar 24, 2007 8:27:17 GMT
I have a few small plans and photos of some LT stations. Send me a PM if interested.
I have just seen an UD model ( by Rob Curling??) on a DVD free with Dec. Railway Modeller. Very interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2007 8:54:01 GMT
Just read this thread - very very impressed  There's some amazing shots on there. I particularly like the shots of the carraige sidings, and the ones at platform level. It is a truely excellent layout. I remember a layout in the Railway Modeller (around 1992?) called Grove Park - it featured a 1950's BR station, with a low level LU station in it too - it featured F stock, COP stock (I think) and was modelled in amazing detail. Also, John Polleys layout can be seen on series three of 'The Tube'. |
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Post by russe on Mar 24, 2007 23:19:33 GMT
Also, John Polleys layout can be seen on series three of 'The Tube'. John Polley's 'Abbey Road' layout can be seen in the flesh at the Roding Valley MRG Model Railway Exhibition on Saturday 19 May (at the Leytonstone Methodist Church, High Road Leytonstone, E11 3DA). Russ |
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Post by mandgc on Mar 25, 2007 11:01:18 GMT
Underground Drawings-
I have a few Drawings and plans of Holden Stations that I could scan. Drop me a PM.
Other articles on UD Layouts appeared in Railway Modeller, Oct 78,Sep91, Jan 98 and Apr03 and Br. Railway Modelling Mar03. if you can refer to or buy Back Numbers.
An O guage layout, 20 x 10 with a 9 x 18 ft. oval single line was displayed at Charing Cross station by the 'new' LPTB for Christmas 1933 with aTube and Surface station. For its time it was one of most realistic Layouts shown in the Mod.Rly.News and even today is comparable. Some pictures appear on the LUL Photo pages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2007 14:46:04 GMT
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 25, 2007 18:40:26 GMT
Very nice, if I win the lottery, I will make you an offer! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2007 18:54:30 GMT
Very impressive - I wish I had 10% of your ability.
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Post by programmes1 on Apr 26, 2007 11:55:03 GMT
Very neat what are the dimesions?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2007 13:51:24 GMT
The terminus & sidings are 3ft wide with an additional 16" added for the station buildings & shops, the length is 12ft, I have a double track which loops around the loft which is only 1ft wide.
I will try and make a plan of the layout
Ian
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Post by mandgc on Apr 27, 2007 6:26:16 GMT
What an immpressive layout ! Thank you for sharing it with us.
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Post by ongarparknride on May 3, 2007 9:24:25 GMT
I found this site a few days ago. www.scalescenes.com/Whilst not specifically LU targetted, they have general items for building platforms, roads, buildings etc. AND they sell their products by download which is a big advantage saving P&P, and delivery, especially to non-resident UK modellers here. Any scratch builders / scenery builders might want to check it out AND they offer a free sample - a free download of a Waiting Shelter.Usual disclaimer. cheers OngarParkNRide |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2007 11:01:20 GMT
The terminus & sidings are 3ft wide with an additional 16" added for the station buildings & shops, the length is 12ft, I have a double track which loops around the loft which is only 1ft wide. I will try and make a plan of the layout Ian Wow! What an amazing layout. Thanks for posting the piccies! |
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Post by tubeprune on May 3, 2007 16:11:20 GMT
Surerb layout and great pictures. It actually get the LU atmosphere very well. Nice trackwork too. Brilliant!
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There's some amazing shots on there. I particularly like the shots of the carraige sidings, and the ones at platform level. It is a truely excellent layout. 
