South Ruislip - Morden avoiding Zone 1

Is it a pink reader thing? I'm not familiar with those stations.

Is this an oversight on the part of TFL?
Some journeys, such as that described by bronzeonion, may be well have been defined as requiring travel via Zone 1, but can nonetheless be completed without doing so.
A look at www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14871.aspx shows there are pink and yellow card readers at:

Blackhorse Road
Canada Water
Gospel Oak
Gunnersbury
Highbury & Islington
Kensington (Olympia)
Rayners Lane
Richmond
Stratford
West Brompton
Whitechapel
Wimbledon
Willesden Junction

So shouldn't there be one at Shepherd's Bush, so people can valid their route taken at the most logical point, i.e. the station at which they would be stepping onto the platform anyway, to change between trains?
Yes, bronzeonion could have used a pink reader at Olympia or West Brompton, but doing so would mean interrupting a journey and - unless he knows the precise location of the reader in advance - having to then await the next service to Clapham Junction.

Yes they can, but for long journeys like that the system charges the higher fare anyway - the logic may be that in terms of distance travelled the fare is reasonable, and there isn't really any logic in charging different fares for travelling between the same two points - although they do: Lewisham to Kings Cross costs differently depending whether you go via Bank or London Bridge and, if the latter, whether you then go via Thameslink or the Northern Line.


So shouldn't there be one at Shepherd's Bush, so people can valid their route taken at the most logical point[/quote]
No need for pink readers for interchange at Shepherds Bush or Balham, as you have an out of station interchange so the yellow readers will note the route you took if it is has a bearing on the fare.




I doubt that would help - it would still assume you'd gone via earls Court

The point TfL are missing here is that the Parly trains were specifically designed to provide the cheapest available fares to everybody, at least once a day. Surely then, travel by the "Parly Route" should be at the cheapest available price, and not at more circuituous route rates

But the raison d'etre for the modern "Parliamentary" trains has very little to do with the 1844 Act. The modern version exists to avoid going through the statutory closure procedure as first established in the 1962 Transport Act, and (I think) currently covered by its 2005 equivalent. After all, many modern "Parliamentary" services do not run every day, as was required by the 1844 Act

That's like making me liable to pay for petrol (and road wear and tear) I didn't use when travelling from Scunthorpe to London although I didn't go needlessly via Birmingham. That's an unjustifiable rip-off in my humble opinion and worth contesting in any court seeing as they provided the route that allowed you to avoid Zone 1 in the first place. Take 'em to the cleaners Onion!!!!

Amersham - Upminster - must have at least 2 from what I can tell...

They never did, unless you count the H&C, but as far as i am aware, there were never through services from north of Baker Street to Aldgate East and beyond.

Until 1977, if you count the H&C and ELL as part of the Met, all lines connected with each other. The Jubilee had no connection with the District until 1999, by which time the H&C and ELL were separate entities and the W&C was also part of the system. From 1999 until closure of the ELL the Jubilee was the ONLY line to connect with all the others.

Most journeys starting or ending at Olympia require two changes.

Some, like North harrow to South harrow, or South Healing to Hanger Lane, can be done with one change but you probably wouldn't!

That is, of course, because the H&C was still considered to be part of the Met until 1990

Uxbridge to Barking? That's a long trip!