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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 17:08:50 GMT
That only works if they can get a change to the minimum staffing levels set for Section 12 stations which if memory serves is estimated as how many people it would take to clear passengers out of the station in 5 minutes. The week before last we had Oxford Circus closed until around 6:30am one morning due to lack of staff. Is it not the case that many stations actually operate with more than the section 12 minimum staffing; extras are employed to cope with the crowds during the peaks. The section 12 stuff is relating only to evacuation, not preventing/monitoring crush during normal operation. Minimum numbers are based upon the roles taken during a worse case scenario evacuation. LU do not acknowledge a set time limit for evacuations. The reason for this is largely the enhanced detection, suppression and compartmentation on the underground. I can't think of stations which have extra staff "just in case". The extra staff over the minimum numbers are often created as a part of the BNS - business needs schematic which governs the number of staff on the gateline given passenger numbers and the need for sats. This by default often, but not always, gives you the extra staff needed to introduce station control during the busy times. From experience there are often roles seen as vital by the local station staff but do not get added to the centrally created BNS. Which as such an important document is largely not understood and in fact is quite baffling in its logic. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 8:49:22 GMT
All of which serves as a reminder of why I decided not to further my LUL career by applying for station super and switched to trains. There is a nice easy minimum number of staff needed to drive a 92 stock; one. According to the earlier posted article ( link), the line was occasionally shut down, or stations closed for some time, but since stations on the Paris Metro are closely spaced, it just added a little bit of walking to everyone's commute... Most of it happened at night though. Thanks for the link, 10-14 days per station for the jolly efficient French, so let’s say a month per station for LUL and its penny pinching bean counters. Also noticed they fitted the old train stock with the kit to open and close the PEDs. How about putting PEDs on the majority of station platforms and leave the platforms with extreme curves as they are? I’d imagine no other reason than money, at the moment everything is being thrown at trying to get the Northern to run in ATO, after that they’ll be working on the Sub Surface ATO and the introduction of EVOs. No spare cash for PEDs. |
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 12, 2012 19:40:12 GMT
Understand that they may appear on the Victoria Line at some point
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Post by Rich32 on Oct 12, 2012 20:08:50 GMT
Understand that they may appear on the Victoria Line at some point I'd be interested to know your source. Notwithstanding anything else, I doubt the money is available, especially as the Vic has just had millions spent upgrading it, if they were going to install, it would have been done during the upgrade closures. Bear in mind, too, the platform humps were installed in this way. Thread moved from Piccadilly Line to Questions and Comments as this is a more appropriate place. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 2:22:53 GMT
Oh for flip sake we had this debate last year or the year before. "Slightly curved" is ok, when you have a curve as severe as Bank Central Line you end up with a gap between the PEDs and the train where it would be possible for a passenger to get trapped between the two. I believe someone on here said they have a station with that problem in Singapore or Hong Kong and surprise, surprise it had a fatality for exactly that reason. For total deja vu someone will now ask why we don't straighten all the platforms....... How about putting PEDs on the majority of station platforms and leave the platforms with extreme curves as they are? Well the only way is to reconstruct station platforms with curves on them. |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 13, 2012 3:46:41 GMT
Even given an insanely unrealistically larger wadge of cash I don't think Bank Central Line can be practically reconstructed straight. At least not until the Bank of England moves out, which I can't see happening any time soon. And if it did it would probably knock Bank station right down the priority list for investment.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 9:09:49 GMT
Even given an insanely unrealistically larger wadge of cash I don't think Bank Central Line can be practically reconstructed straight. At least not until the Bank of England moves out, which I can't see happening any time soon. And if it did it would probably knock Bank station right down the priority list for investment. I agree with you too. That's a good suggestion but very expensive to make it reality. |
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