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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 14:51:51 GMT
5734 leads C stock passing Dollis Hill bound for Northwood this lunchtime - picture here. |
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Post by domh245 on Nov 4, 2013 15:03:40 GMT
Well, that is one of the C08s gone. Did you get the other numbers of that rake?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 15:11:45 GMT
Well, that is one of the C08s gone. Did you get the other numbers of that rake? Afraid not, they went past too quickly. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 4, 2013 16:24:48 GMT
Well, that is one of the C08s gone. Did you get the other numbers of that rake? N5734+5561+5568S |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 21:39:24 GMT
Much as I dislike C's with a vengeance and can't wait to see them all gone, I still feel a tinge of sadness seeing that one unconscionably scurrying to its ultimate destiny. Felt the same passing Farringdon earlier with a couple of them in the sidings - the thought crossed my mind that they might be waiting for that final journey to Northwood, though might have been short workings due to earlier disruption. But they wouldn't know that, and might have expected the worst... - sob -
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:29:03 GMT
There are at least two C stock running on the H&C line to night.
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Post by superteacher on Nov 4, 2013 22:53:49 GMT
There are at least two C stock running on the H&C line to night. Probably trains 237 and 261. 261 is the train that starts in the evening peak, and then runs through the evening. This was, up until last week, an S stock working, but now the Circle line peak train (260) has become S stock. |
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Post by paulsw2 on Nov 5, 2013 2:24:33 GMT
These are the nominated S7 workings as of now
MON-FRI
200 201 203 207 213(FO from Nov 8) 214 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 250 252FX 254 255 256 257 261 263 264
SATURDAY
201 206 207 217 230 231 233 234 235 236 237 240 241 242 243 244 245(from 9 Nov) 246 250 253 254 255 256
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204 205 207 212 216 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 240 241 242 244(from 10 Nov) 245 246 250 254 255 256 257 262 263
Further nominations are expected during November
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Post by superteacher on Nov 5, 2013 18:59:39 GMT
According to the S stock thread, there were quite a few extra S stocks in service today in addition to the nominated workings shown in the previous post. Do they really still need nominated workings at this stage? Presumably, all of the drivers are now trained on the new stock. I'm also assuming that they are able to stable anywhere on the H&C and Circle, so why the need for nominated workings?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 21:23:07 GMT
According to the S stock thread, there were quite a few extra S stocks in service today in addition to the nominated workings shown in the previous post. Do they really still need nominated workings at this stage? Presumably, all of the drivers are now trained on the new stock. I'm also assuming that they are able to stable anywhere on the H&C and Circle, so why the need for nominated workings? Well S7s can't work into Farringdon Sidings and Lillie Bridge Depot (until they have enough Earl's Court/Acton drivers trained on them for the latter) |
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Post by MoreToJack on Nov 6, 2013 1:38:45 GMT
Is there any idea on when the final 'C' stock on the Hammercity might be yet? Took a full end-to-end trip today on the all day working (Didn't note the number, oops!) but it would be nice to try and be there on the 'last day', as I was for the A stock.
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Post by paulsw2 on Nov 6, 2013 1:46:29 GMT
According to the S stock thread, there were quite a few extra S stocks in service today in addition to the nominated workings shown in the previous post. Do they really still need nominated workings at this stage? Presumably, all of the drivers are now trained on the new stock. I'm also assuming that they are able to stable anywhere on the H&C and Circle, so why the need for nominated workings? Well S7s can't work into Farringdon Sidings and Lillie Bridge Depot (until they have enough Earl's Court/Acton drivers trained on them for the latter) Earls Court are being trained at present Acton drivers will be trained from late december onwards In the new WTT from december only 4 "wimbleware trains have acton duties. 072 073 074 076 This means that S stocks are likely to encroach as t/ops and stock are available |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 10:27:09 GMT
Well S7s can't work into Farringdon Sidings... Amongst some of the Crossail plans I've seen over the years, there is suggestion (in the diagrams) that Farringdon Sidings would be reconfigured to hook up with the former Moorgate Thameslink branch, thence that branch would become stabling for LUL trains. Has anything more concrete come of that (either way)....? |
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Post by crusty54 on Nov 6, 2013 19:56:26 GMT
Well S7s can't work into Farringdon Sidings... Amongst some of the Crossail plans I've seen over the years, there is suggestion (in the diagrams) that Farringdon Sidings would be reconfigured to hook up with the former Moorgate Thameslink branch, thence that branch would become stabling for LUL trains. Has anything more concrete come of that (either way)....? It would require the complete replacement of a road bridge which crosses the end of the sidings and would be a major project. I suspect the value of the land makes office development more likely. |
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Post by graeme186 on Nov 8, 2013 14:29:17 GMT
2 x 6-Car C Stock in Neasden Depot Klondyke Sidings. One train is behind Class 20s so I cannot confirm one Unit.
Formations are from the north 5509+5XXX+5585 and 5548+5508+5577.
5526 is still awaiting disposal from Northwood.
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Post by motorman on Nov 8, 2013 22:18:22 GMT
5585 is the C77 built to replace the original car damaged in the West Ham bombing in 1976. Sad to see that one go.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 8, 2013 22:37:45 GMT
wasn't unit 5585/6585 also the prototype for refurbishment? (chosen specifically because it gave an opportunity to do one car of each of c69 and c77 stock, and highlight any undocumented differences before the refurbishment of the rest of the fleet was set in stone)
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Post by Ben on Nov 9, 2013 2:28:32 GMT
I thought that the signalling upgrade and track layout works also proposed taking over the Thameslink Moorgate branch for stabling?
Crusty - I dont see how it would involve rebuilding any bridges... The only thing in the way is the tempory ramp down to the building site at Farringdon.
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Post by crusty54 on Nov 9, 2013 7:38:43 GMT
I thought that the signalling upgrade and track layout works also proposed taking over the Thameslink Moorgate branch for stabling? Crusty - I dont see how it would involve rebuilding any bridges... The only thing in the way is the tempory ramp down to the building site at Farringdon. Checked from the station yesterday. Two sidings finish at the wall of a building and can't be extended. Appears that a link could be made by skewing one track but the site would very valuable. |
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Post by Ben on Nov 9, 2013 11:53:44 GMT
IIRC the idea was to abandon the sidings as they currently are and use the space instead to branch out onto the widened lines formation then into the existing tunnels.  Have you read the London Reconnections articals on Farringdon? Goes into a lot of detail about the area and its former railway paths and expanse. Its speculated that beyond the brick wall where the sidings end there might actually be a basement; on the Barbican side there are also two former sidings pointing towards Farringdon. Anyway its well worth a read! As much as the suggestion that a building will block it seems just about right for this city, I think just this one time TfL are making plans. www.londonreconnections.com/2012/london-terminals-fullsome-farringdon-part-1/ |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 20:28:44 GMT
I'm still confused about something, 5713/6713 was one the units involved in the 7/7 bombing and were renumbered 5734/6734 ( that's the part I understand) on the withdrawal list shows 5734 as being sent to scrap but 5713 as still being in service can class these (what appear) two different units as the same unit? (I know it may be me being very stupid).
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Post by Chris W on Nov 14, 2013 22:04:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 14:55:09 GMT
More C stock heading north through Wembley Park today picture here. 5559 leading. Think two of the other cars were 5566 and 5502 - it passed quite quickly. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 16:23:07 GMT
Correct.
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Post by malcolmffc on Nov 20, 2013 7:39:50 GMT
Are they still running a solitary C stock on the H&C?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 20, 2013 8:43:27 GMT
Are they still running a solitary C stock on the H&C? As from yesterday the peak-hour train was nominated for S Stock, so yes just the one nominated C Stock working. In the new timetable from 8 December one still remains MON-SAT only, with an additional Saturday afternoon working. None on Sundays. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 9:13:31 GMT
Are they still running a solitary C stock on the H&C? As from yesterday the peak-hour train was nominated for S Stock, so yes just the one nominated C Stock working. In the new timetable from 8 December one still remains MON-SAT only, with an additional Saturday afternoon working. None on Sundays. You forgot about the extra train H246 which is nominated for C-stock on Mon-Fri from the new timetable. |
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Post by motorman on Nov 20, 2013 22:36:18 GMT
To clarify the above how many C Stock will remain on Circle Line working on the new 8/12 timetable? Will the remaining C Stock diagrams reduce to those which stable to interchange with Wimbleware workings the following day?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 0:19:15 GMT
To clarify the above how many C Stock will remain on Circle Line working on the new 8/12 timetable? Will the remaining C Stock diagrams reduce to those which stable to interchange with Wimbleware workings the following day? Circle: 6 Hammersmith & City: 2 Sat:Circle: 7 Hammersmith & City: 1 Sun:Circle:8 Hammersmith & City: Nil |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:56:17 GMT
Finally got a shoot of C stock on the Piccadilly Line at Sudbury Hill picture here 5563 leads, 5573 in middle, 5606 at rear. |
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