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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 16:11:17 GMT
Afternoon all. I've been looking at filming on the Underground recently, as part of my website, and I've noticed that most recently Charing Cross seems to have become the number one choice. However, looking back to the late 90's and early 00's, East Finchley seemed to be more popular for filming. Is this just a case of filming preference or, aside from the fact East Finchley is an active station, is it down to changes such as PPP and Health & Safety? David (UD)  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2007 16:17:10 GMT
I think 'running' locations such as EFY, might attract a premium fee, as regards safety issues, staffing if filming takes place 'out of hours'... where as Charing Cross Jubbly is closed to the public, thus no interference problems, apart from some H&S person...
At a guess, I think it just depends on what sort of image the film producers are looking to create...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2007 23:29:05 GMT
I do believe it is cheaper to hire out CX then it is to hire out Aldwych. Though as Art said it depends what the director wants. As Aldwych has quite old style ticket booths if you want to shoot something along time ago!! I do love my student Film permit though. Only 25 pounds and anything that you carry  Ive filmed in MHE and i have done a few bits at Tower Hill. I only had Trouble at Tower hill mind. Told the ss i would be shooting and produced my permit. But some SA came over and started arguing with me that a "student permit" Wouldn't cover my camera. The camera i use does cost a few thousand and is a portable camera though it is not a handycam! So yeah, aslong as i keep out of the way it's all good. Although the wrong shot, ermm Dave can you get back on the trainand come back ont he next one please haha. |
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Post by citysig on Sept 24, 2007 9:44:19 GMT
One point to note of course is that, much as Charing Cross Jub is "closed" to the public, it remains a reversing point for service recovery. Therefore the traction current is normally on during traffic hours.
The station is therefore useful for platform filming, and excellent to film trains arriving and departing - using the over-run sidings in particular, but to film anything "trackside" would require the current to be turned off, and a full possession taken. This bumps the costs up considerably more.
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Post by suncloud on Sept 25, 2007 14:46:06 GMT
I would imagine Charing X is attractive as IIRC access for equipment is easier... which makes a big difference on any tv/film shoots...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2007 16:43:08 GMT
I would agree with tha, Suncloud; at Ch X Jub, they can just turn on the escy's, as opposed to lugging tons of equipment down a spiral staircase as at Aldwych!
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Post by suncloud on Sept 25, 2007 18:04:50 GMT
Would film companies use trains to transport equipment to locations such as Aldwych and Charing X... it seems much easier to load up a train on the level above ground than carry stuff down stairs and escalators....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2007 18:11:13 GMT
They would, in all probability, still have to get the equipment onto a station's platform in the first instance... which again may involve going down stairs... and I doubt the company would allow a public station to be closed for the equipment to be transferred, unless of course the filming crew wish to do this out of hours and incur huge fees for supplying a train and staff!
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Post by Chris M on Sept 25, 2007 19:52:56 GMT
I think that Suncloud was suggesting that the filming people carry their equipment with them to a station with easy surface access and arrange for the train they want to film to call there to pick them and their equipment up and convey them to the filming location. Once there they will disembark and carry their equipment from the train to the platform and set it up.
The procedure would be repeated in reverse at the end of filming.
Obviously both journeys would need to be done in off peak, but I don't see how this is much different to how the 1938 stock tour picked us up at Neasden and conveyed us to CHX. I don't think the equipement would be too much to handle, especially if they'd have had to carry it down the spiral staircase at Aldwych.
The only issue might be the speed of transferring it from the platform to the train at the non-filming location. If there is a lot, then they could just buy platform tickets for a few extra bods to shift the stuff.
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Post by suncloud on Sept 26, 2007 10:18:45 GMT
I think that Suncloud was suggesting that the filming people carry their equipment with them to a station with easy surface access... Or a depot location (subject I imagine to having a road you can get trucks close enough to), and it not proving disruptive to normal operations. Ok it might not be neccesary/cost-effective for a small shoot, but larger it seems to be an easier safer and maybe even cheaper option (considering the cost of the inevitable extra crew required to carry stuff up and down stairs in a limited time frame). |
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Post by chenahusky on Sept 29, 2007 13:40:07 GMT
I might be able to clarify a few points to this thread. Firstly the cost of filming. The L.U.L. Film Office site on the TFL Website gives the basic costs and some nice pictures of locations.
Regarding Charing Cross abandoned Jubilee line area:
The escalators are not in service at all. All filming equipment is carried up and down by hand, out of traffic hours if it is a large shoot, ( large can mean 3 tons+ of equipment). If the film company can afford it, it is possible to bring equipment in on the train designated for the shoot, from Stanmore sidings. The train then acts as protection for erecting the lights. The train can go in and out of the overrun sidings as often as is required. However if they want to depart the other way, it has to go to West Hampstead and reverse. Hope this helps.
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Post by North End on Sept 29, 2007 16:52:35 GMT
ISTR reading this week that the escalators at Charing Cross will soon be replaced by fixed stairs.
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Post by undergroundernie on Jan 31, 2008 22:07:14 GMT
Firstly my apologies here for opening an old thread here.....
whilst photographing for my website (also based on disused tube stations) I had major problems capturing the underground sections of stations, I enquired about tours etc but had no success due to H&S reasons. As regards filming on Charing Cross and Aldwych there are full details on the TFL website, documenting all requirements as well as fees.
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Post by Tomcakes on Feb 1, 2008 20:28:21 GMT
There were at one point Aldwych tours, but I think it was H&S that stopped them.
I think the 38ts has been involved in Aldwych filming before - or it may have been the 60ts come to think of it. I believe that in that instance the 72ts on the branch had to be taken out, run via Wood Green to Northfields, followed all the way by an empty 73ts should the 72 (which, remember, has been sitting on the branch for years, limited to occasional trips up and down as rusty rail workings). Then the 38/60ts shunted on, filming performed, and then whole thing done in reverse! I imagine that would have been a not-inconsiderable bill for the filmers. In an instance like that, where a special train is being used, and out of traffic hours, it would seem logical to load the gear up at the depot.
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Post by metman on Feb 1, 2008 20:52:55 GMT
Your correct on both counts! There was some filming a year or so ago and the main bits were carried out on the 38 stock trailer car in between the two cravens motors!!
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Post by undergroundernie on Feb 2, 2008 22:18:45 GMT
I did actually get into charing cross disused platform last year on a 38ts railtour, one of the operators did explain that an operations centre was going to incorperated into the platform sometime in the future.
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