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Post by rincew1nd on May 5, 2012 23:00:01 GMT
Nothing complicated today, no multiple stations with the same name or any of those kind of shenanigans, just a nice single part question.... Question: (click image for a larger version)
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Post by charleyfarley on May 6, 2012 0:48:36 GMT
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Post by Deep Level on May 6, 2012 0:59:16 GMT
And that's how you ruin a quiz.
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Post by charleyfarley on May 6, 2012 3:21:04 GMT
How is it "ruining" a quiz? We were asked to identify a single station and this is one of those rare occasions I was able to, mainly due to the distinctive entrance door. If there is some rule about not answering with a picture then please let me know.
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Post by alfie on May 6, 2012 6:45:46 GMT
Weeeell I'd agree with both of you - answering with a picture isn't exactly wrong, but it takes most of the fun out of guessing when it is obvious what the station is.
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Post by charleyfarley on May 6, 2012 7:07:15 GMT
Totally happy to remove the picture and simply type the word Chorleywood if that pleases people, as the name of the station is presumably what was required. There were no insets (which always have me totally confused) and it appeared to be a single part "Name the station" thing. Quiz master, photographer, forum staff. I am none of the above. I am simply a fairly new ordinary member who logically assumed that if I happened to know a very simple question, it was appropriate to answer immediately.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 9:11:34 GMT
Any deviation from the norm makes them uncomfortable.
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Post by rincew1nd on May 6, 2012 9:14:18 GMT
There is only one written rule for the quiz, and that is a statement of what is considered "on topic". However, our tradition is that your guess is written. Sometimes you may know the answer for definite, and someone else will come along and give a different answer; proving that you are correct with a picture does stop other members participating in that days quiz.
People have posted pictoral replies when a location is proving particularly elusive "ah, got it at last, it's x [pic]" and also when there has been debate about the accuracy of the answer on the card, "No really, its not x as that has bifurcated canopy finials like this [pic] but it is y because it has unique unconglomerated lintles in the repose arms of the canopy [pic].
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Post by charleyfarley on May 6, 2012 9:22:21 GMT
Sorry Rince1nd, I was not trying to "prove" anything. I simply had the picture on my computer - among many LUL pictures found on the web. Neither was I in any way attempting to prevent anyone else participating which is what makes Deep Level's response so bizarre to my mind. I cannot see how his response would have been any different whether the single word Chorleywood was typed or displayed in a picture. I will certainly not use any further pictures if it causes so much distress
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 9:44:12 GMT
If you'd just posted the word "Chorleywood", then the quiz would still be open for other people to guess, until one of the mods confirmed it at the end of the day. By posting the picture you leave everyone in no doubt as to which station it is, making any further guesses redundant; I think that's what's caused the "distress".
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Post by castlebar on May 6, 2012 10:04:48 GMT
I think it was quite clever to provide a photo for the answer, and l think it deserves an extra point.
You have also won a signed photo of Boris Johnson, and one of the new TfL H&S stickers being designed for driverless buses and trains stating that this bus/train cannot proceed until everyone has fastened their seatbelts.
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Post by slugabed on May 6, 2012 10:08:31 GMT
As a regular quizzer,I often find that,when I log on in the morning,the quiz has been posted,and someone else has posted first and has,unequivocably and categorically,got the right answer. To all intents and purposes,the quiz is over...this happens relatively often ( once a fortnight?) and it seems as if Charleyfarley was just doing this,but in a more decisive way than usual. Of course,the best quizzes are the ones which there are several competing answers but we get there in the end,but I'm no more upset by what happened today,than I have been when on other occasions someone else has,unarguably,got the correct answer first.
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Post by rincew1nd on May 6, 2012 10:14:37 GMT
Nothing complicated today..... I think I'll award myself some bonus points for having the answer sheet and being completely wrong.....
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 10:19:16 GMT
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Post by Deep Level on May 6, 2012 14:09:03 GMT
If you'd just posted the word "Chorleywood", then the quiz would still be open for other people to guess, until one of the mods confirmed it at the end of the day. By posting the picture you leave everyone in no doubt as to which station it is, making any further guesses redundant; I think that's what's caused the "distress". Took the words from my mouth. The quiz is well and truly over when a photo is posted taking all the fun out of the quiz which is what the quiz is here for, answering with text leaves the quiz open to others to disagree with you and then it's still fun even when the correct answer is revealed.
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Post by ruislip on May 6, 2012 16:29:19 GMT
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Post by Chris M on May 6, 2012 19:17:00 GMT
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Post by Chris M on May 6, 2012 19:45:51 GMT
As for the topic of the debate, I've always tried to go with what people want the quiz to be when setting it. It seems clear from today's responses that posting a picture answer that includes the station name (or anything else that makes the answer blindingly obvious*) on the day of the first question is not what people want. As I don't recall this coming up before, Charleyfarley couldn't know it would be received in that way (although it might have been foreseeable) so I'll just say "Don't do it again!" and that this applies to everybody. In the early days, people often sent PMs when they were absolutely certain of the answer rather than posting directly in the thread early in the day (although when doing so they weren't averse to posting in the thread that they'd sent a PM). As it stands, with three of us doing the posting it's harder to guess which of us to send it to. As an experiment therefore, I have set up an email account that all the quiz team can read** - tubequiz@gmx.com - that you can use. You don't have to of course - especially if you're not sure, as I like the discussions - but it's an option. *Things like "Alight here for X" and "Exit to Y Street". **Myself, Rincew1nd, cso, SE13 and MRFS at present (details to follow by PM after I've sent this message). Other people will be added as required.
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Post by rincew1nd on May 6, 2012 22:59:55 GMT
So there we have it, if you absolutely positively definitely know the answer and it is still early on, an e-mail to tubequiz@gmx.com is the way to go - credit will be given in the thread. Inklings, suspicions and the like should be posted in the thread.
For the avoidance of doubt: there is currently an unwritten rule that if it is your photo in the question you should similarly keep shtum. Unless of course you don't recognise your own photo as has happened to me on a previous occasion and I still got it wrong. And finally, this is indeed Chorleywood - above entrance door (click image for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on May 6, 2012 23:21:01 GMT
For the avoidance of doubt: there is currently an unwritten rule that if it is your photo in the question you should similarly keep shtum. Unless of course you don't recognise your own photo as has happened to me on a previous occasion and I still got it wrong. [/color][/quote] You're not alone in that. I can't remember who, but I know that at least one other person has misidentified the location in their own photo. Several others have got the location right without recognising it as their own photo (and not only when its been heavily modified either!)[/color]
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