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Post by Chris M on Dec 29, 2006 12:29:27 GMT
Why was Roding Valley station built were it is? A couple of hundred yards south (if that) and it could have had platforms on both the loop and Epping tracks, and a little bit further and it would be south of the junction and needed only one set of platforms. Its not as if it would be particularly close to either Woodford or Buckhurst Hill?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2006 17:25:03 GMT
You can see the station from the main Epping road... thats how close to the junction it is!
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Post by Chris M on Dec 29, 2006 19:47:22 GMT
Looking at Flash Earth it looks like there is sufficient land available for platforms along side the Epping line, and a passenger connection between the two would only require a little bit of a yard or even bridging over it.
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Post by Ben on Dec 29, 2006 21:08:16 GMT
Maxwell Roberts' book 'Tube Maps after Beck' had an interesting proposition here in one of the maps. Roding Valley had platforms on the main Epping line, and the loop was cut between Woodford and Grange Hill. A few years ago this might possibly have been a sensible idea; but hasnt there been quite a large increase in patronage recently on the loop?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2006 21:14:52 GMT
One of the plans also was to have a north facing side to the junction, so that you could have a Hainault - Roding Valley - Epping direct service... patronage has increased a bit... people are noticeable now!
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Post by Ben on Dec 29, 2006 21:29:14 GMT
One of the plans also was to have a north facing side to the junction Interesting. Was this a pre-LT proposal? And where would Roding Valley station have been in relation to this?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2006 21:35:27 GMT
Around 1947...
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Post by jamesb on Jan 2, 2007 14:40:30 GMT
Its very exciting to see people talking about Roding Valley - if they had built platforms on the Epping branch near the junction people could use my garden shed as a waiting room ;o)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2007 17:52:48 GMT
Is that an invitation for me to blast the whistle on the last westbound? ;D
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Post by jamesb on Jan 2, 2007 18:13:55 GMT
only if you see smoke coming out of the roof!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2007 18:26:09 GMT
Ahh, I've just imagined it to be in LNER days, say the late 1920's, small wayside station waiting room, freezing cold o/s, but a fire blazes away... The station porter goes about his daily chores of buffing up the brasswork, filling up the gas lamps, tending to the gardens... This is a railway!
[sorry, waltzing off down Memory Lane again...]
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Post by Phil on Jan 3, 2007 15:19:30 GMT
say the late 1920's, [sorry, waltzing off down Memory Lane again...] Blimey, you didn't look that old last time I saw you.......
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Post by mandgc on Jan 3, 2007 22:30:24 GMT
"Down Memory Lane"-
Yes I can visualise it now ! Fire blazing away, Porter cleaning the Brasswork and tending the garden (and is that a 'Best Kept Station' plaque hanging on the wall ? - - Sorry to spoil the dream - Joe Brown in his Atlas says the place was opened in 1936 and it was described as a 'Halt' in the 1942 Bradshaw, a Halt normally being a sort of unmanned Bus Stop where passengers could get on the train between 'Real' stations. At other Halts tickets were normally sold by the Guard to intending passengers but I find it hard to imagine the Guard of a Fenchurch Street to Liverpool Street train carrying a set of tickets just for this one 'Halt" on this Suburban Journey.
The Halt allowed Passengers living nearby to join the Fairlop Loop trains rather than go to Buckhurst Hill (there were about 33 trains from the Halt to Woodford and London in the morning compared with about 41 fron Buckhurst Hill. The location appears to be the cheapest method of increasing the service from the area any schemes to provide a station at the junction or a curve toward Ongar are to me just vague ramblings of correspondents who haven't a clue of the complications (or cost) of such ideas.
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Post by Bighat on Jan 4, 2007 0:38:01 GMT
"Down Memory Lane"- Yes I can visualise it now ! Fire blazing away, Porter cleaning the Brasswork and tending the garden (and is that a 'Best Kept Station' plaque hanging on the wall ? - - Sorry to spoil the dream - Joe Brown in his Atlas says the place was opened in 1936 and it was described as a 'Halt' in the 1942 Bradshaw, a Halt normally being a sort of unmanned Bus Stop where passengers could get on the train between 'Real' stations. At other Halts tickets were normally sold by the Guard to intending passengers but I find it hard to imagine the Guard of a Fenchurch Street to Liverpool Street train carrying a set of tickets just for this one 'Halt" on this Suburban Journey. The Halt allowed Passengers living nearby to join the Fairlop Loop trains rather than go to Buckhurst Hill (there were about 33 trains from the Halt to Woodford and London in the morning compared with about 41 fron Buckhurst Hill. The location appears to be the cheapest method of increasing the service from the area any schemes to provide a station at the junction or a curve toward Ongar are to me just vague ramblings of correspondents who haven't a clue of the complications (or cost) of such ideas. THAT would be an interesting (and pointless) journey, Fenchurch Street to Liverpool Street. Would take about ten minutes towalk. By train, without reversing (in steam days), try FS-Stratford-Leyton-Woodford-Hainault-Ilford-Stratford-LS. Don't think so! Might use some of the route, part of the way, but......
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Post by abe on Jan 4, 2007 9:00:36 GMT
Co-incidentally there's an article on the history of Roding Valley in this month's London Railway Record.
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Post by mandgc on Jan 4, 2007 9:24:46 GMT
"London, Woodford, Chigwell, Ilford and London" as the Timetable Heading had it.
Trains started from Liverpool Street or Fenchurch Street and ran via Ilford , Roding Valley and Woodford to Stratford,or the other way round, and once there the only places to continue to were Liv.St. or Fen. St.! The whole service between Newbury Park and Roding Valley Halt was provided in this way before the extension of the Central Line trains.
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