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Post by thc on Feb 14, 2014 10:36:07 GMT
The planning applications.,.... are available on the planning portal at www.watford.gov.uk. That link leads to a general Watford Council site - which is typical of its kind in telling you everything and nothing. The "planning" link tells you how to apply for planning permission, but not how to find any existing ones that might affect you. It does also has a search facility, but that is not limited to Watford - thus neither Vicarage Road nor Ascot Road are very sueful as search terms. Could you give us a clue as to what to do once inside the hallowed portals? It would be my pleasure.  1. Select "Planning" from the first column of the "Browse other services" box on the Watford homepage. 2. Select "View and comment on planning applications" from the menu in the left column (it's at the bottom). 3. Click on the "I agree with the copyright notice above and would like to view Planning Applications" statement (halfway down the page). 4. Enter "Croxley Rail Link" in the search box that appears. Et voilá! THC |
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 14, 2014 18:56:40 GMT
What exactly are "hidden services"? I think this refers to gas, water, electricity supplies that cross the track bed but are not shown on current plans. XF Or underground railways..... |
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Post by flippyff on Feb 15, 2014 19:59:19 GMT
I think this refers to gas, water, electricity supplies that cross the track bed but are not shown on current plans. XF Or underground railways..... ...that may or may not appear on Ordinance Survey maps....? ;-) |
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Post by geoffc on Feb 25, 2014 21:12:11 GMT
Travelling through Watford Junction on Sunday I noticed some construction work at the far ( southern ) extremity of the disused west sidings . The contractors appear to have constructed a concrete float or bed under that last 10 meters or so of track. My guess is this connected to a concern the nearby embankment is liable to subsidence with all this rain. But it makes no sense to stabilise the earthworks in this manner if the track is to be abandoned . Does anyone know the reasoning behind this work ? Although not part of the Croxley scheme I can't help feeling these sidings will come into play at some point - sooner rather than later.
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Post by trt on Mar 4, 2014 12:48:57 GMT
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Post by melikepie on Mar 4, 2014 16:22:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 19:10:27 GMT
25 years + in the making and people are still waffling on, just get on and build the Croxley Link - Has anyone asked the EU , Scots, Welsh yet? All this bull' for a 3 mile link surely this will make the Guinness Book of Records for the longest duration project for a small railway link!
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Post by John Tuthill on Mar 4, 2014 19:15:09 GMT
25 years + in the making and people are still waffling on, just get on and build the Croxley Link - Has anyone asked the EU , Scots, Welsh yet? All this bull' for a 3 mile link surely this will make the Guinness Book of Records for the longest duration project for a small railway link! XF How about the pre-war proposed extension of the Bakerloo to Camberwell?  |
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Post by roythebus on Mar 6, 2014 8:08:06 GMT
25 years? It was being discussed when I was a guard at Ricky in 1973. How about the 100 years+ for the Channel Tunnel?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 11:12:24 GMT
I'm very glad I walked the route from Watford Stadium to Croxley before they started bulldozing over the track bed.
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Post by trt on Mar 9, 2014 12:01:14 GMT
I'm very glad I walked the route from Watford Stadium to Croxley before they started bulldozing over the track bed. As am I. Wandered onto it by accident whilst walking in the park. Though I didn't manage to do the Croxley Green/Ascot Road section, which would have been the most interesting, nor the Cardiff Road section or the Southern Curve. One of them is a bridge no longer there, the Cardiff Road trackbed was heavily fenced off as it leads into the DC line junction and the other an embankment bulldozed for New Ascot Road. The test signalling equipment was still evident at Watford Stadium when I was there in 2010. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 18:14:46 GMT
I was there February 2013.
I never got back towards Cardiff road, and thanks to the embankment being missing we had to clamber down from the track bed to New Ascot Road. I didn't get on to the Grand Union bridge either as that was fenced off and there was a Fox lurking on the bridge. The rest however was covered.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 20:27:27 GMT
I have worked the Croxley Green branch both in 2011 and 2013 and have many photos of it. I also spent time taken photos of the remains of the Colne Jct -Croxley Green Jct side of the triangle in order to capture a before the Croxley Link look at the area.
Remember tube stock has worked the Croxley Green branch in the late 1930's early 194o' albeit owned by the LMS!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 16:22:51 GMT
I personally find that 3d proposed layout absolutely fascinating as if it is the final layout, it will preserve the site of Croxley Green station.
Now a crazy idea I had, depending on how much of the site is finally taken up by London Underground, is to restore the station as a little area history landmark, which has been done at a few disused stations elsewhere including West Grinstead and Wheathampstead.
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Post by trt on Mar 12, 2014 21:00:21 GMT
I personally find that 3d proposed layout absolutely fascinating as if it is the final layout, it will preserve the site of Croxley Green station. Now a crazy idea I had, depending on how much of the site is finally taken up by London Underground, is to restore the station as a little area history landmark, which has been done at a few disused stations elsewhere including West Grinstead and Wheathampstead. Have you ever been to St. Albans South? Brilliant day out. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 21:27:30 GMT
Yet another meeting which result in more waffle but no railway. Let's get James May to run a Hornby train along the existing track bed and across the road to the Met and then at least something would have been achieved!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 7:01:53 GMT
I personally find that 3d proposed layout absolutely fascinating as if it is the final layout, it will preserve the site of Croxley Green station. Now a crazy idea I had, depending on how much of the site is finally taken up by London Underground, is to restore the station as a little area history landmark, which has been done at a few disused stations elsewhere including West Grinstead and Wheathampstead. Have you ever been to St. Albans South? Brilliant day out. Passed it quite a few times but have never been in the signal box itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 19:42:05 GMT
I'm not sure the Bakerloo can ever run to Watford Junction now the Met is going there as regulations would require the floor of the trains to be the correct height for the platform. They would need four platforms on the DC side of the station - 2 for Bakerloo, 2 for Met. Didn't there used to be 4 there a few years back? There are currently 4 DC platforms at Watford High Street however up unit the mid 1960' there were five with the long gone Platform 5 connected to the down main line at north end of the station XF |
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Post by thc on Mar 14, 2014 15:58:03 GMT
Yet another meeting which result in more waffle but no railway. Let's get James May to run a Hornby train along the existing track bed and across the road to the Met and then at least something would have been achieved! XF Patience young Padawan. The planning process may be exhaustive but it is precisely that for a reason. TRDC in essence have very little scope to delay or object to the project but it is important to engage locally in order to address any objections and ensure compliance with the law of the land. 'S' stocks will come to Croxley Wiggenhall Road before we're too much older...  THC |
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Post by trt on Mar 14, 2014 20:48:07 GMT
Yet another meeting which result in more waffle but no railway. Let's get James May to run a Hornby train along the existing track bed and across the road to the Met and then at least something would have been achieved! XF Patience young Padawan. The planning process may be exhaustive but it is precisely that for a reason. TRDC in essence have very little scope to delay or object to the project but it is important to engage locally in order to address any objections and ensure compliance with the law of the land. 'S' stocks will come to Croxley Wiggenhall Road before we're too much older... THC I strongly suspect, judging by the amount of soil on the road, that they're digging out the raised bit the depot stood on. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 23:19:02 GMT
Now if models of S Stock become avaiable my next project might well be Vicarage Road Station though the planning for this might take some time even in 1/72 scale!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 14, 2014 23:30:52 GMT
Now if models of S Stock become avaiable my next project might well be Vicarage Road Station though the planning for this might take some time even in 1/72 scale! XF surely not as long as it's taking in 12" to the foot scale? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 20:16:17 GMT
A few photos from the Disused Railway's Facebook Page showing the embankment clearance at Watford West:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 10:25:27 GMT
A few pictures from my first visit to the area on 13th March. I hope to be making some further visits to follow progress. Croxley rail linkDave |
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Post by thc on Mar 17, 2014 10:45:01 GMT
Great pictures @triplex and @unravelled. Thanks for sharing.
And good to meet you on Saturday @xercesfobe. I look forward to seeing the extension when it's ready!
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Post by bassmike on Mar 17, 2014 11:09:09 GMT
Joining the realms of fantasy-- If the bakerloo was re-extended to Watford then theoretically you could run a S stock to Kilburn high road.
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Post by metman on Mar 17, 2014 15:08:11 GMT
They wouldn't be able to unless the signalling system was immunised first I think. Would certainly be a sight though!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 18:25:51 GMT
Joining the realms of fantasy-- If the bakerloo was re-extended to Watford then theoretically you could run a S stock to Kilburn high road. Add slam doors and window bars too! XF |
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