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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 24, 2013 21:20:02 GMT
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Post by metman on Jul 25, 2013 6:28:08 GMT
I'd really like it if Watford Station could be used for heritage days and kept in a good condition. Perhaps a basic restoration to a 1925 look?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 9:12:17 GMT
I'd really like it if Watford Station could be used for heritage days and kept in a good condition. Perhaps a basic restoration to a 1925 look? Or turned into a proper maintenaince depot! XF
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Post by trt on Jul 25, 2013 13:53:59 GMT
I'd really like it if Watford Station could be used for heritage days and kept in a good condition. Perhaps a basic restoration to a 1925 look? God yes. Can you imagine Sarah Siddons setting off from one of those glass and grey steel jobs they favour now? *shudder*
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Post by thc on Aug 8, 2013 11:51:16 GMT
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Post by egduf on Aug 9, 2013 12:48:35 GMT
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Post by grahamhewett on Aug 9, 2013 14:53:05 GMT
"Watford Vicarage Road"? That'll be one of the longest, if not the longest station name on the system - surely they could have done better than that...?
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Post by melikepie on Aug 9, 2013 14:57:14 GMT
It doesn't actually say Cassiobridge, only it is to be expected. We'll wait and see.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Aug 9, 2013 16:31:50 GMT
"Watford Vicarage Road"? That'll be one of the longest, if not the longest station name on the system - surely they could have done better than that...? Will it not just be plain "Vicarage Road"? There is no other station of that name anywhere on either he Underground or National Rail. If it is to be "Watford Vicarage Road", that's 19 characters, one more than Tottenham Court Road, the same as Totteridge & Whetstone (if you use an ampersand) or Kings Cross St Pancras, one shorter than Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 (if you exclude the commas!). If you allow Overground and DLR stations, we have Finchley Road & Frognal (20), and Stratford International(22), and Caledonian Road & Barnsbury (24)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 16:39:11 GMT
Not as long as Croxley Wiggenhall Road Depot XF
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Post by Chris M on Aug 9, 2013 16:58:29 GMT
"Watford Vicarage Road"? That'll be one of the longest, if not the longest station name on the system - surely they could have done better than that...? Watford Vicarage Road is 19 letters, there are 14 stations with 19 or more letters on the TfL network, 6 of them on LU: Letters | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | Stations | 7 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | LU stations | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
The stations are: Caledonian Road & Barnsbury (24) Finchley Road & Frognal (20) Great Portland Street (19) Harringay Green Lanes (19) Heathrow Terminals 123 (20) High Street Kensington (20) King's Cross St. Pancras (19) Leytonstone High Road (19) Shepherd's Bush Market (19) Shoreditch High Street (20) Stratford High Street (19) Stratford International (22) Totteridge & Whetstone (19) Walthamstow Queens Road (21) (apostrophes, hyphens, spaces and ampersands aren't counted, numerals are)
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Post by melikepie on Aug 9, 2013 17:32:51 GMT
The current frequency to Watford is around 6tph. Once the Rail Link opens, it is projected that the frequency will be 4tph increasing to 6 only in the peaks. Or have I got any of this wrong?
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Post by peterc on Aug 9, 2013 20:15:06 GMT
Current off peak frequency is 4tph. IIRC it used to be 6 but 2 were diverted to Amersham replacing the fasts.
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Post by trt on Aug 10, 2013 11:57:35 GMT
It's shorter than Watford General Hospital.
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Post by thc on Aug 10, 2013 19:17:18 GMT
It doesn't actually say Cassiobridge, only it is to be expected. We'll wait and see. I have a letter from someone high up at TfL saying it's the preferred option and another from a senior politician very local to the area who says it's a done deal. That's good enough for me, although I'll concede that there has been no formal announcement yet to that effect. THC
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 23:18:29 GMT
Cassiobridge sounds more like a calculator rather than a station name!
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Post by mrjrt on Aug 11, 2013 10:47:20 GMT
I'm happy enough about Cassiobridge, but still think "Watford Stadium" or "Watford Hospital" would have been far snappier.
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Post by trt on Aug 13, 2013 16:13:55 GMT
I'm happy enough about Cassiobridge, but still think "Watford Stadium" or "Watford Hospital" would have been far snappier. True, but there were two big attractors they wanted people using the station to note, the hospital and the stadium. Of the two, the stadium was the most likely attractor for people not familiar with the area. Interestingly, there's no pub between the station and the stadium... so I don't know if post-match visiting fans will head left, or do the usual right turn to visit the Crown and then the inevitable stagger to the Junction. Or maybe they'll catch the Met to the Junction and use the Flag instead. Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 16:30:51 GMT
I'm happy enough about Cassiobridge, but still think "Watford Stadium" or "Watford Hospital" would have been far snappier. True, but there were two big attractors they wanted people using the station to note, the hospital and the stadium. Of the two, the stadium was the most likely attractor for people not familiar with the area. Interestingly, there's no pub between the station and the stadium... so I don't know if post-match visiting fans will head left, or do the usual right turn to visit the Crown and then the inevitable stagger to the Junction. Or maybe they'll catch the Met to the Junction and use the Flag instead. Time will tell. They could always go to Weatherspoons in Watford High Street and think what might have been all those years ago! XF
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Post by melikepie on Aug 15, 2013 12:06:13 GMT
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Post by trt on Aug 15, 2013 12:09:26 GMT
Official name will be Watford Vicarage Road. Common name probably just Vicarage Road. A bit like King's Cross...
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Post by thc on Nov 2, 2013 19:07:14 GMT
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Post by melikepie on Nov 3, 2013 23:11:37 GMT
Thanks for the report
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Post by thc on Jan 21, 2014 14:38:54 GMT
In the absence of any other recent news, the good people at Watford’s Chamber of Commerce posted a CRL progress update on 10 January. Highlights include the impending submission of relevant planning applications and a slippage to 2017 in the intended opening date. THC — www.watfordchamber.co.uk/news/2014/01/update_on_croxley_rail_link Planning applications for the two new stations, viaduct and electricity substation for the Croxley Rail Link are being submitted this month. Construction of the new structures was approved as part of the legal powers granted to Hertfordshire County Council and London Underground last summer, but the detailed designs must first be approved by Watford Borough Council and Three Rivers District Council, who will consider the applications in the early spring. Meanwhile, overgrown vegetation along the Croxley Rail Link route will continue to be cleared over the next few months by contractors working for Hertfordshire County Council. Trees and bushes have sprung up along the disused line and contractors have been on site since mid-December, using machinery to clear the line ahead of construction work, which is due to start later in 2014. Terry Douris, Cabinet Member for Highways, said “We’ve chosen to clear the overgrown vegetation from the disused line at this time of year as it’s the time that will be least disruptive to local wildlife. “We’re making good progress with the on-site investigations and are gathering a lot of important information that we need to finalise the engineering designs and timetable.” The clearance is the latest in a series of preparatory works. Ground investigations to gather geological information are continuing and surveys of possible electricity cables, water pipes, sewers and communications cabling are being carried out. Hertfordshire County Council and London Underground now expect that trains will be running on the new link in 2017, later than originally planned. Ian Welland, Chief Executive for Watford and West Herts Chamber of Commerce said, “It is important that the Croxley Rail Link continues to progress and any delay envisaged at the present time to the implementation timetable, might well be rectified as the physical works get underway. Naturally, there are other factors, many unknown such as hidden services and weather which may also cause delay; however, it could be plain sailing and work could even get ahead of schedule. We shall have to wait and see. What is important is the positive benefits the Croxley Rail Link will bring to Watford in terms of travel options, linkages and the economy.”
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Post by melikepie on Feb 2, 2014 18:43:07 GMT
What exactly are "hidden services"?
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Post by trt on Feb 2, 2014 19:25:03 GMT
Buried cables and drains, gas pipes, water pipes, (oil or petrol pipelines even given their proximity to Scammell's) that weren't on the plans or weren't found during the ground survey.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 20:13:42 GMT
What exactly are "hidden services"? I think this refers to gas, water, electricity supplies that cross the track bed but are not shown on current plans. XF
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Post by thc on Feb 14, 2014 9:30:23 GMT
The planning applications for works associated with the Croxley Rail Link were submitted to Watford BC towards the end of January. Too many in number to detail here, they are available on the planning portal at www.watford.gov.uk. A similar search on the planning portal at www.threerivers.gov.uk has not borne fruit but that is not to say that the relevant applications have not yet been lodged with them. The Cassiobridge station renderings remind me very much of the template for Haggerston station on the northern extension of the East London Line. It’s also clear from the WVR renderings that ‘Watford Hospital’ was the working name for the station until very late in the day. Interestingly, there are 51 documents associated with the WVR application, but only 18 and 15 with the Cassiobridge and viaduct applications respectively, which hints at the relative complexity of works at the Vicarage Road site. THC
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Post by trt on Feb 14, 2014 9:39:39 GMT
Interesting that they seem to have gotten rid of the pavement and are making people walk in the road...
[EDIT} Seems as though it's just a bad drawing!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 14, 2014 10:23:13 GMT
The planning applications.,.... are available on the planning portal at www.watford.gov.uk. That link leads to a general Watford Council site - which is typical of its kind in telling you everything and nothing. The "planning" link tells you how to apply for planning permission, but not how to find any existing ones that might affect you. It does also has a search facility, but that is not limited to Watford - thus neither Vicarage Road nor Ascot Road are very sueful as search terms. Could you give us a clue as to what to do once inside the hallowed portals?
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