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Post by c5 on May 27, 2006 14:08:45 GMT
I *think* Harrow-on-the-Hill still have a block bell to send an obtruction danger code (6 bells) to the Marylebone Signal Box in an emergency. When there new facility opened it was replaced with a switch. You can think what you like but there are no block bells at Harrow any more. There is though an emeregncy alarm panel which does duty for sending Obstruction Danger between Harrow and Marylebone IECC. It consists of a switch to send the alarm and a button to acknowledge receipt of the alarm. In theory it is tested every day but in the time I worked at Harrow I only ever saw it used in anger once following report of a tree on the line. A similar panel is installed in Amersham Cabin So did Harrow have block bells ever?
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Post by DWS on May 27, 2006 15:08:14 GMT
Yes it did, I was at Harrow Cabin in 1964, but the bells were removed when Marylebone IECC opened.
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Post by ttran on May 28, 2006 9:15:39 GMT
On the topic of Whistles and Hooters again, why do LU trains only have pi$$y little whistles?
Surely a nice two-tone horn would be better to warn people and all that?
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Post by Tubeboy on May 28, 2006 9:35:57 GMT
Horns would echo a fair bit I would think and deafen everyone, in a tunnel section anyway, as for whistles they can be very loud.
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Post by prjb on May 28, 2006 21:35:51 GMT
On the topic of Whistles and Hooters again, why do LU trains only have pi$$y little whistles? Basically, because we can. We don't have carriages we have 'cars', we don't have yellow fronts we have red, and we don't have horns we have whistles. We are not the mainline, we are a lot busier! ;D
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Post by prjb on May 28, 2006 21:37:57 GMT
Being serious for a minute, I am sure that one of the pre-92 prototype trains that ran around the Jubilee line was fitted with a 'BR' style two tone horn? You know the one's I mean, the red/green/blue trains.
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Post by trainopd78 on May 29, 2006 10:45:40 GMT
Ah the 86TS. I wonder if it was the one built by BREL, the blue one.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2006 15:09:37 GMT
DLR trains have a horn. It gave me quite a fright when I heard it for the first time at close range - the train was running fast through a station.
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Post by ttran on May 30, 2006 8:55:40 GMT
Hah, all our metropolitan trains here in Sydney have horns. Bet they'd scare the wallies out of your typical Englishman.
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Post by Colin on May 30, 2006 10:39:54 GMT
AFAIK speed is also a factor - our trains don't go fast enough to warrant anything more than a whistle.
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Post by version3point1 on May 30, 2006 11:50:07 GMT
DLR trains have a horn. It gave me quite a fright when I heard it for the first time at close range - the train was running fast through a station. The DLR doesn't have real trains. They're imposters! (Though I've never heard it whilstle or peep. Hmmm.)
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2006 19:18:08 GMT
DLR trains have a horn. It gave me quite a fright when I heard it for the first time at close range - the train was running fast through a station. The DLR doesn't have real trains. They're imposters! (Though I've never heard it whilstle or peep. Hmmm.) Ooooh, controversial!
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Post by Chris M on May 30, 2006 19:59:34 GMT
If your definition of "train" includes having a driver then V3.1 is perfectly right. However this could also call into question LU's 67 and 92 stock....
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Post by prjb on May 30, 2006 20:46:19 GMT
Does this mean that if the Train Captain on the DLR takes manual control then it becomes a train? ;D Is it Line 14 in Paris that is totally driverless? Does that count as a train then? A whole can of worms! ;D
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Post by Hutch on Jun 4, 2006 9:25:57 GMT
On my broadsheet advertising services on the new Liverpool and Manchester Railway, dated 1st March 1831, it refers to “… several Trains of Carriages …”. I would therefore contend that any number of vehicles coupled together constitutes a ‘train’. On the other hand, those single vehicles (Class 143?) controlled by a driver on the national rail system probably aren’t !
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Jun 4, 2006 10:09:31 GMT
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Post by Ben on Jun 4, 2006 16:01:48 GMT
Hang about, "trains of carraiges"....but then again...."We don't have carraiges we have 'cars'". I hate to stir but i think its time for 20 paces here
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Post by Chris M on Jun 6, 2006 12:56:36 GMT
On the other hand, those single vehicles (Class 143?) controlled by a driver on the national rail system probably aren’t ! You actually mean Class 153 units, which are the single cars. Class 143s are the two car units that are little more than busses on rails.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2006 20:13:52 GMT
Class 143s are the two car units that are little more than busses on rails. Affectionately known as 'Nodding Donkeys' Take one on the run from Harrogate to York/Leeds and you'll see what I mean...
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Post by Chris M on Jun 6, 2006 20:49:15 GMT
I've had plenty of journeys on 143s in the South West (the most recent yesterday evening) and a couple in South Wales to know exactly what you mean. I feel sorry for the driver and passengers when one unit did a Cardiff Central - Penzance journey (~5½ hours) a few months back...
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Post by donnytom on Jun 6, 2006 21:56:16 GMT
I quite like them! If it a choice of 14xs or shutting the line, I'll go for the railbuses! What was 'fun' with the suspension is the Hope Valley Line (Sheffield-Manchester) with an old 101...boing, boing, boing... ;D
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Post by Chris M on Jun 6, 2006 22:32:33 GMT
I don't know that I've had the pleasure of a 142, but a 144 has a better ride quality than a 143.
I do agree with you about taking a railbus over shutting the line - I live less than 5 minutes walk from a line that the lovely Dr Beeching axed...
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