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Post by chris on Sept 8, 2005 19:32:47 GMT
On the old unrefurbished C Stock trains, how did you open the doors? I noticed on a fairly old DEV that the operator did something to a switch (just underneath the reverser) and then pushed some buttons or something behind him, to the left of the operators seat, facing his way. There is no red and black buttons so how exactly did he open the doors?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2005 19:45:51 GMT
IIRC They used the door open buttons at the rear of the cab, that used to be used by the guards? Wasn't the Video125 DEV of the District by any chance?
Sam
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Post by chris on Sept 8, 2005 19:50:27 GMT
H & C, i think. It was filmed in 1989, the same year as the District DEV was.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2005 20:01:14 GMT
Aaah K, they did the same on the District one...
Would like to hear why though! - Maybe it was a pre-CDSE OPO requirement, to open the doors with the controls behind the driver, with one foot on the platform etc...?
Sam
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Post by chris on Sept 8, 2005 20:04:07 GMT
I figure they looked out at the platform becuse there are no mirror ir CCTV for the T/Op to see if everyone is on board.
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Post by solidbond on Sept 8, 2005 20:14:12 GMT
Nope - it was simply that that was where the door buttons were located ;D Although the C stock went OPO in 1984, the buttons weren't put on the front until they were refurbished in 1991 - 1994. As to the little switch below the reverser barrel, that was nothing to do with the doors - that switch was called the Traction Control Cut Out Switch. It was introduced before OPO, due to a problem with the deadman not being operative in Rheo 1 & Hold at any speed (since changed on refurb!) The thought was that if a driver collapsed with the TBC in Rheo 1 & Hold, there would only be a mimimum EP brake slowing the train down, and there was a risk of a collision. The switch worked by only allowing you to release the deadman after cutting the switch out, else you would lose Train Line air from the deadman. But if it was cut out, when you went to a motoring position, the motors wouldn't work. Needless to say, this was the cause of a number of cases of the driver forgetting to turn the switch, and either letting go of the deadman and losing air till he cut the switch out, or trying to move the train, and nothing happening until he cut the switch in. This was usually accompanied by the sound of the driver shouting - 'Oh I'm breaking the rules with a naughty word it' Hence the switch was commonly referred to as the 'fuckit' switch ;D ;D
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Post by solidbond on Sept 8, 2005 20:18:50 GMT
H & C, i think. It was filmed in 1989, the same year as the District DEV was. The H&C and District DEVs by Video 125 are on the same tape! In fact the bulk of the District section on that video was actually filmed on a Circle line train, as Video 125 had got hold of an image-intensifying camera, which gave some nice clear tunnel shots, without the use of extra lighting. As they only had it on loan for a short while, they filmed the whole tunnel sections, District and H&C, at the same time.
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Post by solidbond on Sept 8, 2005 20:21:19 GMT
I figure they looked out at the platform becuse there are no mirror ir CCTV for the T/Op to see if everyone is on board. All station at the time did have OPO mirrors or monitors, but in some places they were pretty poor quality. This meant that sometimes it was easier to open the door and look out
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