Post by snoggle on Jan 22, 2017 1:17:34 GMT
I have not seen any sign that proposed ITT has translated into firm orders. However as the paper acknowledged there was sufficient existing 1995 stock to provide some service to the Battersea extension, the lack of an order is no surprise especially given the current "no fare increases" policy.
I somehow doubt extra trains will be ordered any time soon, and TFL are building up problems for themselves as they will surely miss the chance to purchase extra trains for both lines at affordable prices. I assume that by now a lot of the original Alsthom production line facilities (and experience) have been re-tasked. Meantime anyone traveling on rush hour Northern services will know they are already unpleasantly full and the line needs extra capacity now.
Looking back to the last time a forward programme of project approvals was published then we should see two papers coming forward in the first half of this year. One called "Northern Line World Class Capacity" (due March) and the second "Additional trains for Northern and Jubilee lines" (due June). Unfortunately the level of transparency around project progress and spend has gone backwards since the new Mayoralty started. While I doubt LU have had to kill both projects off the back of the fares freeze impacts I suspect they have been partly descoped. Neither Jubilee or Northern is easy to upgrade as there are constraints on both lines which a tph boosting upgrade would have to resolve. The easiest way to scale back expenditure is to take a more conservative view on the level of tph you want to upgrade to. The key thing to watch for is whether the "new" trains contract has options in it for extra trains at a later date. That at least would allow a second stage if funding materialised. If there are no options then both lines will have capped capacity for a long time (as you say) because I can't imagine the jigs for the trains would be retained if there were no contract options possible.
I can already hear the "oh Crossrail will relieve the Jubilee Line link to Docklands and Stratford" and "Crossrail 2 will relieve the worst overcrowding on the Northern Line" excuses being rolled out if there is a scaling back in ambition.