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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2005 22:24:10 GMT
In the past I've noticed that some drivers like to wedge their onside cab door open with something sturdy to get a bit of a draft. Does doing so make the fitters cry when the train goes on depot?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2005 22:38:16 GMT
In the past I've noticed that some drivers like to wedge their onside cab door open with something sturdy to get a bit of a draft. Does doing so make the fitters cry when the train goes on depot? Dont know to be honest! A lot of the 'old school drivers' carry a fuse with then, very good for oling it open, however as you suggest iam sure it doesnt do the world of good to the door engines, apart from the A stock of course!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 0:20:19 GMT
Some Drivers wedge the cab doors with a paddle to create a draught, I normally just leave the offside door open to make a bigger draught, this paddle has no effect on the door when removed and thus is not a problem for depot staff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 1:15:03 GMT
Some Drivers wedge the cab doors with a paddle to create a draught, I normally just leave the offside door open to make a bigger draught, this paddle has no effect on the door when removed and thus is not a problem for depot staff. Do you think I'm being a bit hopeful to ask for them to fit mosquito net doors... I love the draught caused by leaving the door open, but I hate the assortment of insects which tend to hitch cabrides! ;D
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Post by piccadillypilot on Apr 29, 2005 6:28:29 GMT
insects which tend to hitch cabrides! ;D What about selling them tickets and making a few bob on the side?
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Post by Admin Team on Apr 29, 2005 7:52:54 GMT
Do you think I'm being a bit hopeful to ask for them to fit mosquito net doors... I love the draught caused by leaving the door open, but I hate the assortment of insects which tend to hitch cabrides! ;D And we all know just how fond you are of insects, particularly the flying kind which wear yellow and black stripped jumpers eh Al? Maybe you'd be happier if they were black and white stripes? In addition to the fuse trick, I've also seen 'J' door keys and show paddles used for the purpose, particularly by those who sneak a crafty smoke on the road From a technical aspect I don't think the practice does the train any harm - after all, the air pressure's already moved the door across, it's just that the door hasn't *quite* closed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 7:56:18 GMT
If you do use a J door key or a fuse, you have to remeber to hold it as you open the door otherwise you have lost it forever! ;D Another thing you must not do, is drop your control key down the bay road at Tower Hill must you Dave? Oh Alan, i hope you ask to see the insects cab passes? ;D
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Post by q8 on Apr 29, 2005 8:14:01 GMT
You see, another example of those-who-know-best not knowing sod all. if they had used their noddles in the first place the cab door could have been made a bit thicker and incorporated a drop down window. Maybe not full drop but enough to give the driver a blow with a bit protection to stop the nasties getting at him.
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Post by Dmitri on Apr 29, 2005 8:37:51 GMT
Oh Alan, i hope you ask to see the insects cab passes? ;D Haven't ever seen an insect with cab pass (or any other pass) ;D.
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Post by Dmitri on Apr 29, 2005 8:42:52 GMT
And we all know just how fond you are of insects, particularly the flying kind which wear yellow and black stripped jumpers <useless bit> A new logo of a major cell phone provider ('Beeline'): </useless bit>
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Post by Admin Team on Apr 29, 2005 8:54:07 GMT
If you do use a J door key or a fuse, you have to remeber to hold it as you open the door otherwise you have lost it forever! ;D Another thing you must not do, is drop your control key down the bay road at Tower Hill must you Dave? Oh Alan, i hope you ask to see the insects cab passes? ;D And who was it that dropped the key MA? Not I!
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Post by q8 on Apr 29, 2005 8:54:44 GMT
Haven't ever seen an insect with cab pass (or any other pass) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Of course you have Dmitri! They wear big hats and buzz around full of their own self importance and try to sting everybody.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 15:05:08 GMT
And who was it that dropped the key MA? Not I! It was left to me to train your trainee properly to give the driver a blow . My twisted mind ar work
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 15:26:55 GMT
And who was it that dropped the key MA? Well errrm, yes, well errrrm *goes very red* I blame the key, it jumped out of my hand! ;D
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Post by q8 on Apr 29, 2005 16:42:09 GMT
;D Mr Jim you dirty devil. It wasn't meant like that! I mean it will give the driver some relief when he is going.
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Post by piccadillypilot on Apr 29, 2005 16:44:07 GMT
it will give the driver some relief Which is also open to interpretation.
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Post by q8 on Apr 29, 2005 17:08:37 GMT
Which is also open to interpretation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ;D ;D ;D Oh you filthy lot! By having a drop down cab window the driver will thereby get a cooling draught through the cab. If a wire mesh were fitted outside for the length of the window drop that would stop the insects from invading. Now make summat of that!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 17:30:37 GMT
It wasn't meant like that! I mean it will give the driver some relief when he is going. What sort of relief?! EDIT: Just have seen that PP has the same thinking as myself!
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Post by citysig on Apr 29, 2005 20:21:18 GMT
Just out of pure interest, and maybe not connected, how recent was the Tower Hill mishap? Wasn't the other day by any chance when I had heard of a mishap in the bay. That's when the reverser waiting to get in the bay had to go to Whitechapel and encountered a wrong signal at Minories because those good chaps at Earl's Court never told me it was coming? Then caused a bit of a knock-on for a few minutes as the Whitechapel man already had an extra H&C to reverse there. Bit of a pain, but would be nice to blame the culprits. No worries if not. Obviously there are others just as clumsy ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 22:04:46 GMT
What sort of relief?! EDIT: Just have seen that PP has the same thinking as myself! It comes with the territory ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 23:18:10 GMT
Just out of pure interest, and maybe not connected, how recent was the Tower Hill mishap? The Tower Hill mishap was Wednesday IIRC! Funny i always use my pocket now!!
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Post by igelkotten on May 4, 2005 22:28:57 GMT
On our stock, the cab doors were originally not fitted with any interlocks etc whatsoever -they only caused a loss of pilot light if opened in a cab that was not activated.
It was, however, prohibited to drive with the cab doors opened -the droplight windows were deemed to be sufficient.
However, after a infamous incident in the late ninties where a driver entering a siding managed to knock down a signal post telephone with his own skull, the cab doors were rebuilt and fitted with interlocks. It is now impossible to get the brakes to release if a cab doors is open.
On the C20, the doors have always been interlocked and impossible to open while moving.
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Post by Tom on May 4, 2005 22:39:02 GMT
I remember bringing a 92TS to a rather rapid halt half way into Greenford one day because I opened the cab door. I didn't realise they were interlocked at that point, D stock of course is much nicer, as I found out recently.
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Post by Dmitri on May 6, 2005 12:22:51 GMT
On our stock, cab doors aren't interlocked (BTW they are hinged, not sliding as passenger ones), so you can open them at any point including travelling through the tube at 50 mph (there are no deadmans, too). Once it lead to a to a gruesome accident when driver fell out of the cab between stops. As speed happened to be within limits, train travelled all the way to the next station, and was 'tripped' on its starter.
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