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Post by jardine01 on Apr 11, 2011 18:25:47 GMT
Does anybody know when the Jubilee line upgrade will finish on the northern end of the line i know the deadline was for around Easter time but will it be finished on time as in the London standard they said on one article " There is still a huge amount of work to finish on the Jubilee line" I looked on the London underground website for the closures for the weeks ahead. In June there is another closure on the Jubilee line. Will this upgrade ever be finished? I hope the Northern line upgrade is much more quicker than the Jubilee!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 18:28:24 GMT
Anything that the rag which is the evening substandard shouldn't be listened to IMHO. They misquote and take genuine information out of context.
As to the jubilee line, It's only the Stanmore to Dollis section I believe, so not too much longer?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 19:03:02 GMT
Suspect that the big shutdown between West Hampstead and Stanmore between 22nd-25th April is to complete, test and commission TBTC between Dollis Hill and Stanmore.
I'm no expert on this sort of thing, but logic would suggest that this is what the closure is for.
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 11, 2011 19:15:55 GMT
yeh true but there is more closures throught may and June
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 19:28:20 GMT
Those may be either planning for over-run OR for asset replacement (points etc.) if that already hasn't been done. Speculation, though!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 10:36:14 GMT
Looking at the 6 months track closure plan, the last shutdown on the Jubilee appears to be the 22nd-25th April long weekend.
That has to mean that final TBTC works would be that weekend, assuming it doesn't go TU.
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 17, 2011 11:06:07 GMT
Dont go along with the track closures plan on the TFL website! It is subject to change!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 11:09:42 GMT
But they do say that they will update it if it changes.
I did say, assuming it doesn't go TU; that given it probably will...
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Post by 73brian on Apr 17, 2011 13:23:11 GMT
latest info is between 11th and 25th June (by when whole Jub line will go into TBTC).....with Timetable 11 making a guest appearance sometime late in July.....wait & see!!
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 17, 2011 18:31:08 GMT
Will the new timetable make trains come very frequently? like every 1 or 2 minutes or so on?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 18:32:38 GMT
Will the new timetable make trains come very frequently? like every 1 or 2 minutes or so on? 60tph? I wish. Isn't it supposed to deliver 36tph, or am I being a silly boy again? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 19:51:58 GMT
Think it depends if they get to segregate the City and West End branches fully. Before I seem to remember the signally will imporve the service from the current 20 TPH per branch to 24 TPH per branch. If they split it I think that might increase it to 30 TPH hbut as TfL are still planning on running both the Edgware and High Barnet branches down both of the two central branches, I doubt 36 TPH would be possible due to paths and the like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 20:01:10 GMT
Cityboy, this is a Jubilee Line thread...
On the Jub, both termini will have 3 platforms. I'd imagine you could reverse 36tph on that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 20:04:42 GMT
OOPS! Let us hope the Jub can do so.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 3:52:07 GMT
Cityboy, this is a Jubilee Line thread... On the Jub, both termini will have 3 platforms. I'd imagine you could reverse 36tph on that. Reversing 36tph in a dead end terminal (irrespective of the number of platforms) is realistically impossible. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 6:23:16 GMT
I know the Central was meant to run 33tph through the core section but couldn't for various reasons.
You have to remember that a target distance could be set with TBTC and the approach carefully monitored; ATO would make mincemeat of approaching a dead-end terminus quickly.
I would have imagined Charing Cross was a full-speed platform entrance, given the length of the running tunnels past there, assuming that no trains were stabled there!
At Stratford yes the stopping mark isn't that far short of the buffers, the same at Stanmore, but using modern ATO/ATP like TBTC surely there's no need for moorgate protection in it's own right?
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Post by younglulnerd on Apr 18, 2011 7:51:29 GMT
If northern goes TBTC or whatever, would tht mean it would be easier to FINALLY create the Northern split?
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 18, 2011 12:54:53 GMT
Yes, although Camden Town also needs to be redeveloped to handle all the cross transfers between platforms.
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Post by younglulnerd on Apr 18, 2011 18:28:53 GMT
If northern goes TBTC or whatever, would tht mean it would be easier to FINALLY create the Northern split? Doh!!! I was presuming this was about the Northern Line as it says 'When will the northern...' on the name of the topic before clicking, and I don't usually look at the line, so automatically I presume Northern Line. As Charlie has told me before, I am a plonker. Thanks for answering though Tubeboy  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 18:38:45 GMT
That's the second person on this thread; I assumed you were following the discussion created!
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Post by younglulnerd on Apr 18, 2011 18:51:53 GMT
That may have confused me further!
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Post by superteacher on Apr 18, 2011 21:44:18 GMT
The difficulty in running 36tph is as much about passengers attitudes, in that they insist on delaying trains by blocking the doors.
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Post by causton on Apr 18, 2011 22:46:53 GMT
What TfL need to do is have a crack down - one team of people, make it something you can fine people for, send them to a different station every day, give people a small penalty for it and then hopefully people will stop it!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 6:45:21 GMT
You can; purposely obstructing the doors is against the TfL Byelaws.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 9:01:26 GMT
You may not have noticed it but LUL is currently in the process of shedding jobs not creating new ones. Also if someone obstructed the doors in order to board the train you would have to re-open the doors to apprehend the culprit and then issue them with their spot fine, delaying the train further.
I think the problem stems from a far deeper ill within our society but let’s not get philosophical, it’s a lovely day, let’s enjoy the sunshine……
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 17:48:28 GMT
Now we've had the last planned outage between West Hampstead and Stanmore, the TfL future planner dated April 21st is showing no more for the Jubilee, and still there's legacy signalling north of Dollis Hill. There's a notice at Stanmore stating that the new platform will come into use with the new signalling in Summer 2011! We've previously been told by Boris et al that it'll be finished in "late spring" – now looks like 22nd September. Presumably TfL are now assessing the recent trials and we can expect announcement of a spate of new closures.
I'm looking forward to catching an S-stock at Willesden Green.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 20:08:16 GMT
I think there are 2 dates in June that seem promising to get it into passenger service from Dollis Hill to Stanmore in ATO
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Post by mcmaddog on Apr 25, 2011 20:21:46 GMT
There's a notice at Stanmore stating that the new platform will come into use with the new signalling in Summer 2011! Sounds like it's for the new TBTC timetable in July as mentioned elsewhere |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2011 13:46:29 GMT
The track closure list now has scheduled closures until 26/06.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2011 14:21:47 GMT
This info just put out by the TfL press office -
(omitting the spin and blurb):
- On Sunday 15 May the Jubilee line will be partly suspended between West Hampstead to Stanmore. The Metropolitan line is also partly suspended between Harrow-on-the-Hill to Aldgate.
- On Saturday 21 and Sunday 22 May the Jubilee line will be partly suspended between Waterloo to Stanmore. The Metropolitan line is also partly suspended between Harrow-on-the-Hill to Aldgate all weekend.
- On Sunday 29 May the Jubilee line will be partly suspended between Waterloo to Stanmore. The Metropolitan line is also partly suspended between Harrow-on-the-Hill to Aldgate.
- On Sunday 5 June the Jubilee line will be partly suspended between West Hampstead to Stanmore. The Metropolitan line is also partly suspended between Harrow-on-the-Hill to Aldgate (and, for separate work, between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Uxbridge).
- On Sunday 11 June the Jubilee line will be partly suspended between West Hampstead to Stanmore.
- On Saturday 25 and Sunday 26 June the Jubilee line will be partly suspended between West Hampstead to Stanmore. The Metropolitan line is also partly suspended between Harrow-on-the-Hill to Aldgate all weekend.
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