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Post by Hutch on Apr 4, 2011 15:51:23 GMT
To reinforce Tubeprune's map - see below as why it looks so different today - courtesy of Google maps.  I think the photo was taken from a path at the back of the houses - possibly accessing the rear gardens - one can see it on the map. On the modern image, the area is shaded by the houses. I passed this place on a bus not long ago. I had no idea what lay underneath! |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 11, 2011 13:48:44 GMT
I think this is Q31 or Q35 stock. The underside of the clerestory looks deeper which would indicate that it is not a Q27 car. Could someone zoom in? It also appears as if there may be a sliding door at the trailing end. Sorry for the thread bump, but I have finally found my copy of Brian Hardy's "Underground Train File". The car in view is not Q27 (ex-K) stock - the saloon window in the end bay was closer to the driver's door than the passenger doors in that stock, rather then centrally placed between them as is the case for the one in the photo. (As has been mentioned upthread, the guard's door at the other end of the car was hinged in the K stock, allowing the window at that end to also be right next to the door). This is therefore either an L stock or M stock, in both of which the windows were symmetrically placed. L and M stock were visually identical, - M stock essentially being an urgent follow-on order to replace H&C stock after it became LPTB's responsibility). Only eight L stock DMs were built, in 1932 (all west-facing). They were all converted to trailers (Q31) between August 1955 and March 1956. Fourteen M stock DMs were built in 1936, five west-end and nine east-end. They ran for a short time on the H&C before being displaced by the new "O" stock in about 1936, when they moved to the District. All were converted to (Q35) trailers between 1947 and 1956 - the five west-end examples being done in April 1950, July 1954 (2), Dec 1955, and January 1956. The car is therefore almost certainly one of those 22 cars of L or M stock, and the photo taken some time before the last Q-conversion at the beginning of 1956. There is something which looks like PDC controls by the doors in the picture. Air door operation was applied to L, M (and N) stock cars only when they were converted to Q stock specification, at which point they became trailers. However, according to Hardy, twelve M stock cars (including two west end DMs - 4394 and 4396 - had PDC fitted from new but had the equipment removed when transferred to the District a year or so later. These two were the last to be converted to Q35 specification. |
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