Track map

The Watford area appears to be a popular topic. The map shows the Croxley Green branch to Croxley Depot as being shut on 25/03/1996 this is not quite correct .

The depot was closed in September 1985 and the branch from Watford to Croxley Green was temporarily closed a few years later on 25/03/1996 after which no further trains ran on the branch, with official closure following 30/03/2003.

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Congratulations, Carto.

Perhaps one of the best indicators of how good it is is the smallness of the nits over which we are picking ;D

One thing I did notice as missing is the long closed south to east curve at Farringdon (onto the Widened Lines).

One thing I do feel lacking (from this and many other similar maps and sites), is an explanation of the ground rules and conventions adopted, as to what is on the map, and how it is shown, and (just as importantly) what is not: this is particularly relevant in the case of what isn't, but was, or might have been, or will be, or might be; especially where an area has change out of all recognition. And also in relation to the rest of the railway network...

Barcelona is there, but not Madrid.

My congratulations as well for such an outstanding effort. I dread to think how much time must have gone into creating this.

I've noticed a few minor errors - the Aldwych branch never had a scissors crossover just south of Holborn. The line shown in blue is correct, but the 'disused' (grey) crossover line linking the Holborn bay to the eastern platform at Aldwych never existed. I'm not sure why the tracks disused from 1917 (Holborn bay and eastern tunnel) are in grey; from my reading of the key they should be Piccadilly blue (like the removed Covent Garden crossover).

The Bakerloo crossover immediately north of Piccadilly Circus should show the other direction, using the 'lifted tracks' notation, to reflect the former scissors crossover.

The crossover at Queenway should show the former reversing siding, pointing eastwards from the station, again as 'lifted track'.

Again, these are but minor points, and do not detract in any way from the quality of the map. Top marks, M. Carto!

Thanks, the version 1.1 is available. it include the corrections described here and others, and of course the new section of Overground ;-)

(except the link between Central and District, I didn't see the post before... it'll be in the next version !)

carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

Carto, are you familiar with Joe Brown's London Railway Altlas - 2nd edition?. I have always been a fan of this book.

It has the full geographical layout, too.
My one issue with both editions has always been the various overly-light shades of yellow and orange used. I can only see some of them with the aid of a magnifying glass. I blame my old eyes! Maybe others don't have this problem.

He covers all of London's railways, though - not just the Underground/Overground.

Your maps are so much easier to deal with as I can zoom in as close as I want. Thanks for that - and the colors really stand out.

I am sure I will keep both sources at hand in the future.

Carto,

On the v2 map you show a connection just north of New Cross Gate station between the lines into platform 1 and platform 2, this does not exist. The short stub siding shown just to the north of that actually continues further south and some of platform 1 was removed to make space for it.

HTH,

Simon

Well done, top effort Carto!

Depending on the system (underground/overground/dlr/tramway), I've used various sources (technical documentation, ... or just a visual check, much simpler on the dlr than on a tube line !) with, at least, double or triple checks depending on the quality of the source ;-)

Thanks Uzair Siddiqi, if I've understood, it should be like this ? (it looks more relevant like this..)


SE13 edit to resize picture. Clicking image will redirect to original size image.

I've released the version 2.1 which include this correction, and few others. It also include some extensions of the NR tracks around Clapham Junction.

Thanks again for pointing remaining mistakes !

Fantastic, very imformative to see it all on one page.

There was a double track link from the District to BR east of Richmond. Was removed in the 70s(?)

Willesden Junction (High Level) had a disused platform opposite platform 5. This was removed in the 60s(?)

Also, don't know whether its viable putting it in, but there was a loop track on the southbound Met/Jub north of Finchley Road. That went with the reorganisation though, so it might be inpractical to include it.

I think what some of these posts point to is the difficulty of showing what was (even if that's known) in addition to what is on a track map - especially when you have a location that has been rearranged multiple times, with what first was having been completely different but in the same place as what then was - and with what now is being different yet again. To which may be added the desirability of setting out the 'ground rules' of what is (or perhaps I should say 'should be') on the map.

I think my own view is that trying to show what the track layout was (in addition to what it is) isn't worth the hassle (if we really set our minds to it, we could probably come up with enough corrections to keep cartometro busy for years! :-) ) - I would really just show what was (and what is 'out of scope') at 'route' level.

But none of this should detract from what cartometro has achieved.

I agree with etr220 - cartometro has achieved what a lot of us would have loved to have seen (or done ourselves) in the past.

It is a great piece of work.