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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 15, 2011 12:09:34 GMT
.............which has has Tom Edwards promoting a subconscious* ( all the driver does is sit there, so why is he there when the computer could do it all? ) message to the viewer and reader......... *........." The old signals are taped over and now the driver can sit there doing nothing while the computer controls the train."..... In other words, let's get rid............. www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mindthegap/2011/02/the_politics_of_upgrading_the.htmlGood vid though, nice cab..........
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2011 20:11:38 GMT
Annoying how theyve deliberately not filmed the driver starting the train to try and persuade the public into driverless trains
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 15, 2011 23:54:39 GMT
" Everyday we learn the lessons"...................like today then. Suspended Willesdon Junction to Waterloo due to.............................................signal failure. One of at least two, all with the new all talkin' software which appeared to say " no" as it "beds in".....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2011 23:57:07 GMT
Think you mean Willesden Green.. ;D
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 16, 2011 0:03:56 GMT
Think you mean Willesden Green.. ;D Same difference, especially in those specs..........Should of gone to Poundland...........
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Post by abe on Feb 16, 2011 6:13:32 GMT
Annoying how theyve deliberately not filmed the driver starting the train to try and persuade the public into driverless trains I didn't realise that the BBC was part of Boris's plot as well... ...or are you just being a mite paranoid? ;D
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 16, 2011 11:15:33 GMT
Tommo says to driver....."Just sit there and make yourself look as small, shrivelled and insignificant as possible while I make assertions to camera that you're superfluous to the Great God Computer. If I had my way you wouldn't be here at all, sitting there in those nasty little glasses. Look at you, overpaid, always on strike, too many holidays and to cap it all, you want to wreck the royal nuptials" The driver did as he was told and was videoed just opening and closing the doors doing nothing else while dying a little more inside with each passing station. Then! An announcement from God Control. The Great Computer had said "no" at St John's Wood and the service was not to be administered between the two great double yoos - Waterloo and Willesden Junction* Like a shot of adrenalin into the heart of the little bespectacled one he immediately unshrivels and comes back to life to take control of his chariot. Pointing a gnarled finger at Tommo he exhalts " Get thee from my cab oh spiteful one and return whence you came to the BBC to spill your inaccuracies......................Oh, and I hear you'll soon be relocating. The weather in Glasgow is nice at this time of year, and you'll just love the taste of Irn Bru for breakfast........".............
*Now. If I were to make the announcement that the service is suspended twixt Waterloo and Willesden Junction, you'd mentally correct yourself of my mistake and substitute Green for Junction. A confused ( not very difficult ) punter who thought it was going to Green rather than junction would look at it's freebie map and still think Green was on the cards, which it is, or in this case, was. But, for me Green or Junction is irrelevant. As soon as I hear the word Willesden I put on a silly little plaid trilby,a too tight cardy, strides n winkle pickers. Tip a cocky wink and do the Willeseden Walk in the chicken-dancing-on-a-hotplate style of Olly Murrs................
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 13:58:57 GMT
What exactly is a "purdah"?
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Post by Oracle on Feb 16, 2011 14:26:55 GMT
Purdah or Pardaa (Hindi: पर्दा, Persian: ÑÏå, Urdu: ÑÏÀ literally meaning "curtain") is the practice of concealing women from men. According to one definition:
Purdah is a curtain which makes sharp separation between the world of man and that of a woman, between the community as a whole and the family which is its heart, between the street and the home, the public and the private, just as it sharply separates society and the individual. This takes two forms: physical segregation of the sexes, and the requirement for women to cover their bodies and conceal their
says Wikki! Purdah glass is a Raj-era (that is British occupation of India period) description for darkened or tinted, glass in a window such as the outside viewers cannot see in but the occupants can see out. Limousines had purdah glass. It can also mean being sent to isolation, beng hidden behind curtains etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 20:46:43 GMT
"However, there will be an upgrade "freeze" in the run up to the Olympics.
By an incredible coincidence the Mayoral election is also that summer. Is that the first transport project "purdah"?"
As usual Tom Edwards is putting 2 and 2 together and making 376. Mayoral elections will be 3rd May which is hardly summer, and the upgrade freeze won't be until late July... he seems to want people to think Boris is suspending the upgrades to make him look good for the elections. Quite apart from the fact that people aren't as stupid as he is, he's got the timing all wrong.
Still, not as bad as today's outrageous report
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 21:16:18 GMT
As usual Tom Edwards is putting 2 and 2 together and making 376. He seems a tad slow doesnt't he. Nice reference to the last number on a Programme Machine roll too ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 22:52:35 GMT
'...or are you just being a mite paranoid? ;D' I can assure you im not!
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 16, 2011 23:55:01 GMT
Tommo Edwards is soon to be relocated to C-Beebies BBC Scotland to do reports from the Clockwork Orange while dressed up as a psychedelic rabbit. After all his expenses he'll just be able to afford a lodger's room in a tenement in the Gorbals. All in breakfast a battered Nessie turd washed down with tepid Irn Bru. He'll rue the day he set-up the little Tube driver in the Nana Mouskouri specs...............
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 13:39:50 GMT
Can we leave out the snidey comments about the driver's appearance, please? It's completely unnecessary. Thanks.
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Post by Bighat on Feb 17, 2011 14:11:33 GMT
Can we leave out the snidey comments about the driver's appearance, please? It's completely unnecessary. Thanks. Sorry, I have just re-read this entire thread and it appears you have suffered a major case of 'humour failure'! I could not detect anything 'snidey' by way of comment on the driver's appearance at all!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 14:18:24 GMT
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I have noticed the way this thread is heading, as as such it is being monitored.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 14:41:46 GMT
Can we leave out the snidey comments about the driver's appearance, please? It's completely unnecessary. Thanks. Sorry, I have just re-read this entire thread and it appears you have suffered a major case of 'humour failure'! I could not detect anything 'snidey' by way of comment on the driver's appearance at all! sigh, I thought a succinct comment would make the point without having to regurgitate the insults but "nasty little glasses", "those specs..........Should of gone to Poundland", "Nana Mouskouri specs". I'm not the guy concerned or a friend of his and I do have a sense of humour but it's totally uncalled for. Anyway, point made, let's move on....
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Post by 21146 on Feb 17, 2011 15:27:41 GMT
I would suggest any T/OPs who read this forum refuse to participate in any more of these LU publicity stunts. OK, if you've got "manager" in your grade title LU pretty much have you over a barrel, but that doesn't apply to T/OPs or I/OPs. There are several people where I work who leave the room when TV crews are filming, or will only be pictured in long-shot or from behind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 16:07:09 GMT
I would suggest any T/OPs who read this forum refuse to participate in any more of these LU publicity stunts. OK, if you've got "manager" in your grade title LU pretty much have you over a barrel, but that doesn't apply to T/OPs or I/OPs. There are several people where I work who leave the room when TV crews are filming, or will only be pictured in long-shot or from behind. yep, totally agree and the same goes for the in-house magazines. You'll be lucky to survive with a shred of dignity! No use getting too defensive about how we come across in these pieces. Driving jubilee trains manually hardly requires massive skill either - it is just extremely boring being in ATO. If some people want to believe that we have no other function than sitting down in front of a monitor then let them. It's not going to lead to driverless trains in the foreseeable future. I can never understand why some people seem to want it to be this incredibly difficult job. If I get on a coach or a plane or a boat I would rather that the person in charge doesn't have to complete a task equivalent to a tricky round of the krypton factor to get us moving! I want it to be as easy as possible for them, as long as they know what to do and how to fix things when it goes wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 16:50:15 GMT
A lot of people, whatever jobs they do have a tendency to over-elaborate the difficulty of their daily tasks. It's designed to make them appear more skilful and as a consequence, they feel less disposable and more secure.
My job, for some would be difficult, whilst for others, it'd be a walk in the park. It's all subjective. I expect there are many GPs who'd screw up a T/Ops course!
Then we enter into the particularly insidious and green-eyed arena of pay jealousy. Some of us have a nasty habit of trying to ridicule a particular job on the grounds that they consider them overpaid for what they do. I'd say to them, if it is that easy, why don't you go and do it, instead of carrying on with something you perceive to be more difficult for less money............rather a daft position!
Anyway, like I've said before. Live and let live eh? Far too much moaning going on everywhere nowadays. Fortunately, this forum doesn't see too much of it.
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 18, 2011 1:07:39 GMT
sigh, I thought a succinct comment would make the point without having to regurgitate the insults but "nasty little glasses", "those specs..........Should of gone to Poundland", "Nana Mouskouri specs". I'm not the guy concerned or a friend of his and I do have a sense of humour but it's totally uncalled for. Anyway, point made, let's move on.... Auxybaby made no comments about the driver's appearance per se, Just his choice of specs. You're reading into something that's not there, unless you're Olly Murrs or the nomadic bagpipe busker. Auxy doesn't like them, doesn't like them at all. Still let's talk specs............. The Nana specs were a trendy decision, as that style is the present fashion. So Auxy's only critique of the driver is his choice in face furniture. Something a bit bigger, bolder perhaps. By compare with Auxybaby's comb-over, gut, sagging rear n moobs he's got nothing to worry about. Apart from that he is Auxy's colleague and dear tender, fragile Auxybaby was upset at the way he was used/set-up in that video and the sly asides not just about him, but about us all. It's not about how difficult a job is or not (for Auxy the easier the better as he's getting on a bit now) but showing some kind of respect for a grade of people who move countless millions year in year out. This is not the first time this particular reporter has made such comments which is ironic. He works for the BBC, a bloated organisation that exists solely from the tax it collects for the privilege of owning a 14" colour portable........... We apologise for the unusual and serious post above as Auxsetreq is presently away breathing into a brown paper bag. We hope normal service will be resumed soon. Meanwhile let's listen to the latest from the trilling tadpole that's been swimming in bleach. This is Justsinging Blibber.............
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2011 3:23:04 GMT
sigh, I thought a succinct comment would make the point without having to regurgitate the insults but "nasty little glasses", "those specs..........Should of gone to Poundland", "Nana Mouskouri specs". I'm not the guy concerned or a friend of his and I do have a sense of humour but it's totally uncalled for. Anyway, point made, let's move on.... Auxybaby made no comments about the driver's appearance per se, Just his choice of specs. You're reading into something that's not there, unless you're Olly Murrs or the nomadic bagpipe busker. Auxy doesn't like them, doesn't like them at all. Still let's talk specs............. The Nana specs were a trendy decision, as that style is the present fashion. So Auxy's only critique of the driver is his choice in face furniture. Something a bit bigger, bolder perhaps. By compare with Auxybaby's comb-over, gut, sagging rear n moobs he's got nothing to worry about. Apart from that he is Auxy's colleague and dear tender, fragile Auxybaby was upset at the way he was used/set-up in that video and the sly asides not just about him, but about us all. It's not about how difficult a job is or not (for Auxy the easier the better as he's getting on a bit now) but showing some kind of respect for a grade of people who move countless millions year in year out. This is not the first time this particular reporter has made such comments which is ironic. He works for the BBC, a bloated organisation that exists solely from the tax it collects for the privilege of owning a 14" colour portable........... We apologise for the unusual and serious post above as Auxsetreq is presently away breathing into a brown paper bag. We hope normal service will be resumed soon. Meanwhile let's listen to the latest from the trilling tadpole that's been swimming in bleach. This is Justsinging Blibber............. Auxybaby, I've always admired your posts and indeed you're right again. I just wish others could see things in the way you do. For me it's spot on my man
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Post by underground2010 on Mar 1, 2011 12:14:25 GMT
Did LU have this problem when they automated the Central line? In January, I had to commute into the city everyday to do a course for work. The course was being held at Southwark, which meant I needed to use the Jubilee line. Each day I used it, there was some form of delay, apart from one day I believe. Let's just hope when the problems are resolved and all lines are ATO, there will be no problems. One thing I strongly don't agree with is driverless trains!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 12:20:07 GMT
From what I read, the Central was hellish like the Jubilee to get working fully.
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Post by auxsetreq on Mar 1, 2011 13:26:59 GMT
From what I read, the Central was hellish like the Jubilee to get working fully. What aspect of it? The new trains ( back then ) that got as far as one stop down the line and stayed there all day, the de railments to and from depots, or the inter running with the old and new trains resulting in the running rails being chewed up, or the inter running with the old and new signalling, or the ATO over runs or the train giving birth to a baby motor onto the tunnel floor resulting in the unprecedented suspension of a whole line for, what was it, two months??? There was so much hell going on in those days, and it's only now with the trains ready for target practice out at Shoeburyness that it's running sort of ok. The learning curve should of helped the powers that be, the accountants and boffins to ensure that the Jubilee shouldn't of had any problems. So will the Jubilee learning curve be of any use for what is to come? - New signalling on the Circle, District, Hot n Cold, Met. You know, the bit where it all meets. What fun! Strap yerselves in for the ride, which could possibly be delayed........... I remember one of the top bods asking a colleague if he liked the new ATP signalling, which was then set to 65k max and mega unreliable. " I love it! " he replied. " You're the first to say that" said Bod the God. " Why do you like it when everyone else is slagging it off?" - " 'Cos the overtime has helped me buy a new car" The Bod God stormed off. It really was that bad...................
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Post by railtechnician on Mar 1, 2011 15:26:14 GMT
Think you mean Willesden Green.. ;D Same difference, especially in those specs..........Should of gone to Poundland........... Of course you mean "should have" not "should of" !
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Post by railtechnician on Mar 1, 2011 15:36:48 GMT
I would suggest any T/OPs who read this forum refuse to participate in any more of these LU publicity stunts. OK, if you've got "manager" in your grade title LU pretty much have you over a barrel, but that doesn't apply to T/OPs or I/OPs. There are several people where I work who leave the room when TV crews are filming, or will only be pictured in long-shot or from behind. yep, totally agree and the same goes for the in-house magazines. You'll be lucky to survive with a shred of dignity! No use getting too defensive about how we come across in these pieces. Driving jubilee trains manually hardly requires massive skill either - it is just extremely boring being in ATO. If some people want to believe that we have no other function than sitting down in front of a monitor then let them. It's not going to lead to driverless trains in the foreseeable future. I can never understand why some people seem to want it to be this incredibly difficult job. If I get on a coach or a plane or a boat I would rather that the person in charge doesn't have to complete a task equivalent to a tricky round of the krypton factor to get us moving! I want it to be as easy as possible for them, as long as they know what to do and how to fix things when it goes wrong. Your last sentence is exactly the point that so many fail to understand. Key front line staff are paid more for their knowledge and experience than for their day to day performance. When everything goes pearshaped and threatens to turn brown is when key staff come into their own and are worth their weight in gold.
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Post by North End on Mar 1, 2011 17:43:23 GMT
From what I read, the Central was hellish like the Jubilee to get working fully. The Central Line was bad, but on the other hand didn't have endless weekends of closures. Those closures which did take place on the Central Line were generally for track remodelling.
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Post by auxsetreq on Mar 1, 2011 21:25:30 GMT
Same difference, especially in those specs..........Should of gone to Poundland........... Of course you mean "should have" not "should of" ! Of course, but if you can understand the gist of the message - Same Difference! Who to my horror, or could that be a secret delight, have a new album out. *The Rest is History* Rather apt for this thread don't you think? The pair of 'em, oops sorry *them* don't look that happy on the cover and they've gone all raunchy. Next thing you know, they'll be returning from the States speaking in American accents. Just like Sheena Easton did, or tried to. You can take the girl out from the Gorbals, but you can't take the Gorbals out of the girl. *From* or *Of*?? WhoTF cares - Same Difference! www.samedifferenceworld.com/Actually Karma Karma ain't....oops once again,sorry, *is not* Have I permission to use the contraction? Actually Karma Karma isn't that bad, though a bit contemporary, of the moment, Eurovisiony, samey..........<<<< I know, I know, but I'm using 'em, so there.........
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Post by auxsetreq on Mar 1, 2011 21:42:51 GMT
From what I read, the Central was hellish like the Jubilee to get working fully. The Central Line was bad, but on the other hand didn't have endless weekends of closures. Those closures which did take place on the Central Line were generally for track remodelling. There were quite a few closures, though localised they took out huge chunks of the service. Quite a few for enlarging some of the tunnels which were found to be a little tight for the then new trains. And of course the new signalling went in over the weekends. Come to think of it, the weekend closure's went on and on and on. Another load for track work at Beffffnal 12th & 13th this month. Nothing to do with with the past closures, but I thought I'd just "pop it in" as the QVC presenter said to the viewer about the product on screen. Have you noticed that on those shopping channels? Everything is "Simply pop it in"...........
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