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Post by zakwebb on Dec 6, 2010 23:58:59 GMT
Hello everyone. :-) I have notice at Whitechapel station the tracks on the westbound closet to the wall have been removed and replaced with only running rails/or/the live rails been removed. What is the reason for this and what will be the use of these rails? I am guessing it will be used for engineering trains which dont use electricity to run. Thanks guys.  |
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Post by Colin on Dec 7, 2010 2:08:52 GMT
This is the first stage of the Whitechapel revamp which will see the District platforms reduced to two - the new track you are asking about will be the Westbound road when it's all complete. The Eastbound road will be the current platform 1.
The reason for the revamp is Crossrail and it's step free access requirements, which mean the middle tracks currently in place have to go.
There'll be emergency crossovers at either end of the station but the reversal point is to be moved to West Ham where a centre siding has been installed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 8:59:43 GMT
This is the first stage of the Whitechapel revamp which will see the District platforms reduced to two - the new track you are asking about will be the Westbound road when it's all complete. The Eastbound road will be the current platform 1. So there'll be cross-platform interchange? |
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Post by Colin on Dec 7, 2010 9:53:11 GMT
Between Eastbound & Westbound?
Yes - it will just be one big island platform.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 10:27:42 GMT
Oh, that's a very very wide platform!
Where on earth are they going to put the Crossrail platforms?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 10:55:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 10:56:46 GMT
Under the Overground Platforms... if that makes sense! Yes it does... the East London Line is very odd, considering a fair stretch of it is actually below ground and crosses underneath the District/H&C! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 10:58:54 GMT
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Post by Ben on Dec 7, 2010 13:51:57 GMT
Ah, the Whitechapel blister.
Still dont understand why it couldn't have had a centre road with one of escallators per platform.
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Post by zakwebb on Dec 7, 2010 14:03:40 GMT
WOW!!! That is one BIG job on hand.
It will look amazing when complete. What a change this will bring to the area.
The design really does look fantastic.
When is completion date for this meant to be?
The secound diagram/drawing showing the crossrail train underneath makes it look a little costraphobic. Will there be some sort of emergency link from every crossrail to underground and some sort of emergency evacuation exit incase of a fault/fire?
Going back on topic I am assuming the new westbound road will have a platform built. Seeing as it is right next to a wall will they have to demolish that area and create a new platform?
Thanks for the replies guys.
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Post by zakwebb on Dec 7, 2010 14:09:06 GMT
Oh sorry. Just read the posts again. Are you saying the new track I am talking about will be the westbound and the current westbound will be concreted over to become a platform?
And waaay over on the other side the platform against the other wall (which I am guessing is platform 1) will be the eastbound track with the middle platforms becoming on eBIg platform area?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 14:31:53 GMT
it looks like it will be one big island platform, with access to and from the Crossrail platforms! Emergency access/egress will undoubtedly be provided.
It looks like a fairly long escalator to reach Crossrail from the Overground platforms!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 14:42:29 GMT
I would imagine Crossrail tunnels will be done well, with a walkway and such - and hopefully tunnel telephone wires or similar too, would be a good option.
Is it going to be OHLE or 3rd rail through the tunnels?
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Post by Colin on Dec 7, 2010 15:00:41 GMT
Are you saying the new track I am talking about will be the westbound and the current westbound will be concreted over to become a platform? And waaay over on the other side the platform against the other wall (which I am guessing is platform 1) will be the eastbound track with the middle platforms becoming on eBIg platform area? That's exactly what I was saying  Is it going to be OHLE or 3rd rail through the tunnels? OHLE (that's wires up above to those needing a translation). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 15:31:16 GMT
Are you saying the new track I am talking about will be the westbound and the current westbound will be concreted over to become a platform? And waaay over on the other side the platform against the other wall (which I am guessing is platform 1) will be the eastbound track with the middle platforms becoming on eBIg platform area? That's exactly what I was saying Is it going to be OHLE or 3rd rail through the tunnels? OHLE (that's wires up above to those needing a translation). Crikes that's gonna be a big bore. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 15:37:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 15:40:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 15:43:34 GMT
And a lot of soil etc to extract and put somewhere! The document details working sites too.
I'll keep looking for specifics on Whitechapel station but CGI pics tend to show it pretty well!
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Post by ducatisti on Dec 7, 2010 16:38:04 GMT
crivvens, that is *big*
I wonder if they'll sublet the eenormous void under the tracks for services?
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Post by Ben on Dec 7, 2010 18:48:20 GMT
16½' is roughly as big as what a 'classic' surface gauge bore would be; this is about 3' bigger still.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 18:55:19 GMT
16½' is roughly as big as what a 'classic' surface gauge bore would be; this is about 3' bigger still. That will probably be for the walkway and OHLE. That will take a lot of space. |
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Post by dazzmcguinness on Dec 9, 2010 17:28:35 GMT
On the topic of energy, does anyone have any statistics for how much electricity it takes to run the tubes for a day?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 18:42:40 GMT
I think that deserves its own thread as it is certainly an interesting point!
But, FWIW, I did see a list of track hire charges from the former Railtrack, and electricity consumtion charges per carriage and broken down into different class... 411, 421, 423 etc!
I'll try and find it again, as it was a PDF document online!
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Post by 21146 on Feb 5, 2011 15:03:33 GMT
Is Whitechapel cabin still staffed after the recent changes and introduction of 'Auto-Working Switches'? My train doesn't seem to have been "held at a red signal, and should be moving shortly" of late.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 21:05:31 GMT
Is Whitechapel cabin still staffed after the recent changes and introduction of 'Auto-Working Switches'? My train doesn't seem to have been "held at a red signal, and should be moving shortly" of late. It is at present, yes. |
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Post by acbest on Feb 6, 2011 22:43:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 23:17:28 GMT
That was the one, yes!
I had found it [again] not long ago, merely forgot to follow up!
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