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Post by tanner on Apr 16, 2010 10:07:02 GMT
Remember the station will be under a 16 storey building eventually so it will look a bit different....
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Post by suncloud on Apr 16, 2010 11:07:26 GMT
Thought it was funny how some of the roadworks had disappeared (well reduced) around Dalston for yesterday. There are signs on the hoardings referring to the 'open' service (as opposed to the service from 23 May) at the bottom, and a sticker over the top left corner (maybe covering a 'now open' ?)
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Post by 21146 on Apr 16, 2010 18:22:40 GMT
Not even Monday now, so it seems...
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Post by jakehn54 on Apr 18, 2010 12:59:28 GMT
Will Shoreditch High Street to Liverpool Street be a valid OSI?
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Post by thc on Apr 19, 2010 10:20:47 GMT
Following 21146's somewhat enigmatic post on Friday evening there has been silence... does anyone have any substantive news on when the soft opening is to take place? Thanks in advance.
THC
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Post by mcmaddog on Apr 19, 2010 10:44:37 GMT
For the first time in weeks there was a 378 at the correct stop at NXG this morning rather than the usual shunt position - defintely was not in passenger service however. Platform display is still not illuminated either.
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Post by 21146 on Apr 19, 2010 13:18:02 GMT
The blue hoardings screening off the staircases from Whitechapel platforms 1/2 & 3/4 leading to ELL platform 5 were removed overnight it seems. Now taped off though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 16:14:29 GMT
But yesterday, according to an e-mail which arrived in one of my e-mail boxes: extract from our Control log:-
Call from a David Chatterton of TfL Real Time Group advising that TfL have had reports that passengers are being carried on LOROL ELL services today.
No trains running in passenger service and no other reports of passengers being carried.
ELL Operations Manager present and advised.
BTSM NXG contacted and unaware of specific requirement for doors to be locked out on the units but have noted that some units are running round with doors isolated and some not.
CSC asked to contact all stations to make sure staff aware that passengers should not board LOROL ELL trains and that they are not for public use.
Brockley advise that passengers have boarded a service today and Surrey Quays and Rotherhithe report having received passengers on an arriving train.
CSC has also advised 1st-line on-call Customer Services.
The unofficial unofficial very soft opening
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 19, 2010 16:22:42 GMT
I wonder if those passengers intended to go to SQ and Rotherhithe, or just got on a northbound at Brockley (or wherever) and were as surprised to find themselves there as the station staff were to receive them?
If hey were lost, what happened to them next? Was the Jubilee running?
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Post by happybunny on Apr 19, 2010 18:29:38 GMT
What is going on? On the National Rail live departure for Whitechapel.. it shows EVERY train as cancelled !
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Post by jswallow on Apr 19, 2010 18:45:41 GMT
Why's that a surprise? The line's not open yet, but someone's programmed them into the system too early (presumably because they thought the line would open last week).
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Post by flippyff on Apr 19, 2010 19:57:03 GMT
For the first time in weeks there was a 378 at the correct stop at NXG this morning rather than the usual shunt position - defintely was not in passenger service however. Platform display is still not illuminated either. On Saturday around 3.30pm I caught a train from New Cross Gate and there was a 378 at the southern end of platform 1 but it departed northbound. I did not witness any other 378s between NXG and Norwood Junction. However, on my return home around 9pm I saw several 378s south of NXG. I noticed that platform 1 is carrying the timetable for northbound ELL trial services. Will the services south of NXG be cancelled between the soft-launch and 23rd May or will staff be on hand at NXG to help detrain passengers? Simon
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Post by andypurk on Apr 19, 2010 21:20:54 GMT
For the first time in weeks there was a 378 at the correct stop at NXG this morning rather than the usual shunt position - defintely was not in passenger service however. Platform display is still not illuminated either. On Saturday around 3.30pm I caught a train from New Cross Gate and there was a 378 at the southern end of platform 1 but it departed northbound. I did not witness any other 378s between NXG and Norwood Junction. However, on my return home around 9pm I saw several 378s south of NXG. I noticed that platform 1 is carrying the timetable for northbound ELL trial services. Will the services south of NXG be cancelled between the soft-launch and 23rd May or will staff be on hand at NXG to help detrain passengers? Simon During the soft-launch the trains won't run south of NXG, as there are insufficient paths for them on the main line during weekdays and the initial service will only run on weekdays. Currently trains only seem to be running onto the mainline at weekends and I don't think there will be any passengers beyond NXG until the official opening on 23rd May.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2010 21:25:38 GMT
This was the hot talk in the messroom earlier, the driver is certainly going to get some stick for it. A unit stabled at New Cross Gate depot has had vinyls applied to the cab front egress doors, large white block with an overground roundel saying something along the lines of "First East London Line Train - April 2010", the unit was rolling around the depot with that on a few days back but didnt get the unit number, they have been covered over temporarily with some black vinyl for now. According to a memo I saw the other week 378135 was booked to run the very first run with Boris and his band of merry men when the line was originally meant to open. Martin
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2010 17:54:50 GMT
Just read an email saying that the ticket offices for the stations between Dalston Junction & Surrey Quays will be open for public use from tomorrow between 7am and 7pm, although still no trains in public service until further notice.
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Post by suncloud on Apr 20, 2010 18:43:43 GMT
That tallys with my observations this evening. Saw an empty train crossing at Shoreditch, but the shutters at DLJ were open fully for the first time...
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 20, 2010 19:04:34 GMT
Just read an email saying that the ticket offices for the stations between Dalston Junction & Surrey Quays will be open for public use from tomorrow between 7am and 7pm, although still no trains in public service until further notice. Does this mean that you can buy a ticket between the stations?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2010 15:52:52 GMT
Got an update at work today, a decision will be made on the 26th April as to whether preview services will run. This is due to ongoing issues with the onboard DOO cameras. Bombardier have flown over their own software technicians from Canada to investigate. So I suspect that until the issues have been resolved, don't be surprised if the line only opens a week before the 23rd May.
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Post by flippyff on Apr 21, 2010 18:50:14 GMT
Got an update at work today, a decision will be made on the 26th April as to whether preview services will run. This is due to ongoing issues with the onboard DOO cameras. Bombardier have flown over their own software technicians from Canada to investigate. So I suspect that until the issues have been resolved, don't be surprised if the line only opens a week before the 23rd May. What am I missing here? The car shells are pretty much standard as surely are the cameras? Simon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2010 19:59:21 GMT
Got an update at work today, a decision will be made on the 26th April as to whether preview services will run. This is due to ongoing issues with the onboard DOO cameras. Bombardier have flown over their own software technicians from Canada to investigate. So I suspect that until the issues have been resolved, don't be surprised if the line only opens a week before the 23rd May. What am I missing here? The car shells are pretty much standard as surely are the cameras? Simon It's not the actual cameras that are causing problems, it's the software installed in the cab to view the images. It sometimes causes the screens to go blank or freeze and no-one seems to know why.
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Post by tanner on Apr 22, 2010 9:49:51 GMT
If I was a gambling man I would put money on the line opening to the public next week....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 13:55:36 GMT
Too late, I've already lost a tenner betting with a mate of mine that it'd be open before the London Marathon, rubbish.
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Post by Alight on Apr 22, 2010 20:56:01 GMT
I wonder when they are changing the line diagrams on board the Jubilee line trains? The dot matrix and DVA will also need updating to include 'London Overground' - a phrase which has not yet been recorded by Celia.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 22, 2010 22:43:02 GMT
Jubilee line trains..... DVA will also need updating to include 'London Overground' - a phrase which has not yet been recorded by Celia. What does she say at Stratford and West Hampstead?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 22:52:30 GMT
D stock DVA has been changed for Whitechapel.
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Post by Alight on Apr 23, 2010 16:22:43 GMT
Jubilee line trains..... DVA will also need updating to include 'London Overground' - a phrase which has not yet been recorded by Celia. What does she say at Stratford and West Hampstead? At present, there is no mention of the LO at both Stratford and West Hampstead. The Central/Northern lines are other examples where the LO is not yet on the system.
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Post by messiah on Apr 23, 2010 21:49:45 GMT
I wonder when they are changing the line diagrams on board the Jubilee line trains? The dot matrix and DVA will also need updating to include 'London Overground' - a phrase which has not yet been recorded by Celia. On Wednesday when I came through the on board announcement at canada water had been updated to include change here for London Overground. This was confirmed by someone in the comments on the london reconnections blog. Couldn't tell you if it was celia or not...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2010 10:51:11 GMT
What exactly is the problem with these cameras, I wonder? Is it the same problem as on the Euston-Watford Jn line? Whatever the problem is, what if it cannot be resolved by the time the line is scheduled to open? Could they not use a few 313s in the interim? Or maybe run the 378s with a guard operating the doors until the camera issue is fixed?
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Post by uzairjubilee on Apr 24, 2010 11:58:25 GMT
Same thing happened to me today. Was on a Jubilee line train and the announcement before Canada Water said "The next station is Canada Water. Change for London Overground" It definitely sounds like Celia to me.
I was going to Canary Wharf but didn't expect the announcement to mention LO as an interchange just yet. So I decided to get off that train and they've removed the blanking stickers from the signs that say 'London Overground Southbound platform 3' etc on the Jubilee line platforms. I went up to the southbound platform and saw an empty 378 arrive in the northbound platform for Dalston Junction. Announcements were being read out as well mentioning the trains destination, when it would arrive etc. Then shortly after that one departed, a southbound train for New Cross Gate arrived.
Edit: They were not in passenger service.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2010 13:37:14 GMT
Same thing happened to me today. Was on a Jubilee line train and the announcement before Canada Water said "The next station is Canada Water. Change for London Overground" It definitely sounds like Celia to me. I was going to Canary Wharf but didn't expect the announcement to mention LO as an interchange just yet. So I decided to get off that train and they've removed the blanking stickers from the signs that say 'London Overground Southbound platform 3' etc on the Jubilee line platforms. I went up to the southbound platform and saw an empty 378 arrive in the northbound platform for Dalston Junction. Announcements were being read out as well mentioning the trains destination, when it would arrive etc. Then shortly after that one departed, a southbound train for New Cross Gate arrived. Were they running in passenger service? Or were the LO platforms still cordoned off?
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