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Post by londonboy on Jan 22, 2010 13:02:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 19:36:53 GMT
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Post by flippyff on Jan 24, 2010 19:02:25 GMT
Noted today that the ELL track in platform 1 at New Cross Gate has now been put correctly in place and welded up to the NR track.
The temporary stopping board has been moved further northbound in P1 - I presume so that the ELL test trains don't get to close to the real punters and confuse them?
NXG is now also sporting a single solitary London Overground style platform station name board.
I noticed that the old LUL PIS is style hanging under the canopy of P1/2, is this going to be removed or will it be used by the L.O services?
{edited to change ...removed and will... to ...removed or will...}
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Post by 21146 on Feb 5, 2010 17:48:09 GMT
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Post by dannyofelmpark on Mar 2, 2010 19:39:38 GMT
The East London Advertiser has an article stating that the line could reopen as early as the 4th of April 2010 I've just noticed what day the 4 of April is, unusal to reopen a line on a Sunday is'nt it? |
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Post by patstonuk on Mar 2, 2010 19:52:28 GMT
It's also Easter Sunday!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2010 19:55:28 GMT
Opening on a Sunday allows an easier 'bed in' for staff, service operation and passenger use. Rather than open for the peak on say a Monday and it all goes tits up... that'd go down really well with the Standardites...  Can't wait myself! |
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Post by jakehn54 on Mar 2, 2010 22:10:08 GMT
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 2, 2010 22:23:17 GMT
and the service isnt being advertised to allow a gradual opening. But it seems lots of people do know already! |
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 3, 2010 0:55:57 GMT
We were told that there would likely be a 'soft' opening, whereby we just start opening the doors and the service isnt being advertised to allow a gradual opening. Blimey - that's a rather meaningless phrase: either you have a week of ghost running at fake station stops [1] or you just go straight into the service! [1] perhaps a different lesson has been learnt from things like the different stages of the Vic Line or the JLE opening. Perhaps the world has changed <shrug>. |
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Post by mcmaddog on Mar 9, 2010 11:49:36 GMT
Noticed yesterday for the first time that 378s at 'New Cross Gate' are now displaying Dalston Junction on their destinations rather than 'London Overground'. It all looks to be coming together nicely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 15:06:02 GMT
Found these of 378s at New Cross on YouTube:
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Post by andypurk on Mar 10, 2010 8:58:22 GMT
And the opening date I am now told is highly likely be 11th April due to stations not being completed, some of which do still look a lot like a building site at platform level although quite a few do look like they are ready. The W/Croydon section isnt likely to be running till some point in May. The extensions to West Croydon and Crystal Palace won't happen until 23rd May, when the Southern timetable changes to free up the space on the main line. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 10, 2010 19:16:43 GMT
The extensions to West Croydon and Crystal Palace won't happen until 23rd May, when the Southern timetable changes to free up the space on the main line. Not even then, if the Network Rail journey planner is to be believed (the only trains shown Crystal Palace to NXG are the "outer South London Line" services) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 20:00:03 GMT
Not even then, if the Network Rail journey planner is to be believed (the only trains shown Crystal Palace to NXG are the "outer South London Line" services) It is too early for Journey Planner to be updated - I'd expect it to provide information only after the announcement of launch date. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 10, 2010 21:48:42 GMT
Not even then, if the Network Rail journey planner is to be believed It is too early for Journey Planner to be updated - I'd expect it to provide information only after the announcement of launch date. To clarify, I had put in a date after May 23rd, adn it happily copes with other changes - notably the Wandsworth Road to Ealing Bdy parliamentary service |
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Post by andypurk on Mar 10, 2010 23:56:47 GMT
However, Journey Planner North East (which is used in certain track bashing circles as it has platform information which is often missing on the National Rail site) does have the London Overground services as well as the Southern and they are in from 23rd May. See 217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQuery |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 11, 2010 10:47:56 GMT
However, Journey Planner North East (which is used in certain track bashing circles as it has platform information which is often missing on the National Rail site) does have the London Overground services as well as the Southern and they are in from 23rd May. See 217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQueryUsing that link, i did a journey from Dalston Junction to New Cross Gate on 31 May-- it sent me via Surrey Quays, then Brockley, Honor Oak Park, to Forest Hill- CHANGE for Honor Oak Park, Brockley to arrive New Cross Gate !! |
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Post by andypurk on Mar 11, 2010 13:34:10 GMT
However, Journey Planner North East (which is used in certain track bashing circles as it has platform information which is often missing on the National Rail site) does have the London Overground services as well as the Southern and they are in from 23rd May. See 217.23.229.206/jpclient.exe?newQuery=newQueryUsing that link, i did a journey from Dalston Junction to New Cross Gate on 31 May-- it sent me via Surrey Quays, then Brockley, Honor Oak Park, to Forest Hill- CHANGE for Honor Oak Park, Brockley to arrive New Cross Gate !! Looks like the database is missing the southbound station stops, by LO, at New Cross Gate. |
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Post by 21146 on Mar 14, 2010 20:44:47 GMT
Noted the TFL multi-modal "totem" at Canada Water hooded over, no doubt a new installation which includes the LO roundel alongside the LU and Buses versions.
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Post by flippyff on Mar 17, 2010 22:42:29 GMT
Noted the TFL multi-modal "totem" at Canada Water hooded over, no doubt a new installation which includes the LO roundel alongside the LU and Buses versions. Isn't the bus station also currently closed for 're-decking'? |
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Post by londonstuff on Mar 18, 2010 0:05:27 GMT
Yup, which made getting from Canada Water to Rotherhithe for the tunnel tour the other day just that bit more fun  |
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Post by messiah on Mar 18, 2010 20:35:52 GMT
Yup, which made getting from Canada Water to Rotherhithe for the tunnel tour the other day just that bit more fun Much better to walk than try and get a bus - 5 mins to walk, closer to 10 on the bus and youll have to wait for it... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 13:10:50 GMT
I suspect londonsuff meant that he had the same difficulty as I did, which was arriving at Canada Water on the bus, being unfamiliar with the area and so relying on having looked at the map beforehand for a walking route to Rotherhithe station, then being thrown by the bus' drop-off point being a little south of the bus station and very unfamiliar. While running late (due to said bus being 25 minutes late) and marshalling a pair of geographically-clueless parents.
Perhaps.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 14:34:32 GMT
It's possible that a 'soft' opening (i.e. no big announcements) will occur sometime between 4th April and 15th April!! This will simply be a full public service between Dalston Junction and New Cross/New Cross Gate. However this depends upon final contractors handover and final snagging and operational testing. In any event full ELL service south of NXG cannot commence till the NR timetable change date at the end of September.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 14:36:57 GMT
OOOPS! Liquid Lunch! Read 'May' instead of 'September' in my previos posting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 14:38:01 GMT
Or even 'previous' (Hick!)
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 24, 2010 17:00:44 GMT
There is new enamel signage on the DR/H&C platforms at Whitechapel to show "Overground".
The previous version showing "East London Line replacement buses" (covered with white vinyl since closure) have been removed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2010 23:31:53 GMT
It's possible that a 'soft' opening (i.e. no big announcements) will occur sometime between 4th April and 15th April!! This will simply be a full public service between Dalston Junction and New Cross/New Cross Gate. However this depends upon final contractors handover and final snagging and operational testing. In any event full ELL service south of NXG cannot commence till the NR timetable change date at the end of September. April 8th has been strongly rumoured for the "first day of operation". Obviously subject to handovers etc which may only mean that only a small portion is "open". Martin |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2010 13:51:49 GMT
We (the Royal 'we' that is!) are all going for a ride on Tuesday night from NXG to Shoreditch High Street including a depot visit - so.......we might get a strong hint as to a 'soft' opening date - 8th April is possible even if stations north of Shoreditch are not yet handed over - trains could run empty north of Shoreditch in scheduled paths reversing at Dalston. All will be revealed soon I hope! ;D
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