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Post by Chris M on Feb 6, 2008 18:32:24 GMT
I was talking more about the technical viewpoint - whether it could make a different announcement at Monument on a Tower Hill train as opposed to a train going more towards Upminster - although, as you suggest, I daresay it could. If a C stock can announce different things at Edgware Road depending on whether its a H&C, Circle or District, then I cannot see why this would not be possible.
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Post by happybunny on Feb 6, 2008 19:17:28 GMT
Like the D stock if it has an Ealing destination says change for Richmond at Turnham Grn, and vica-versa.. so technically if the train has a Tower Hill destination it could be programmed in the DVA to announce change here for services continuing towards Upminster, at Monument!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2008 22:32:30 GMT
Good points by Colin and Dave, with which I agree.
No reason at all why the thing can not be reprogrammed to be more usefull, just a matter of software, not hardware. It's got to be reprogrammed to deal with the East London Line Buses and London Overground, so they really aught to redo the whole lot at the same time ! (I'd prefer a male voice for eastbound trips too, to enhance the difference in direction of travel, as South West Trains platform PA's do).
Given the main Ealing service runs to Tower Hill, a seperate Ealing - Tower option should be programmed in and this could then accomodate pmrnorthern's suggested announcements at Monument, as well as saving the driver having to select Ealing - Upminster and then scroll through the station list from Upminster to Tower to set up a Tower Hill short !!! (likewise as Tower Hill is underground, the train sat nav doesn't know where it is at Tower, so again defaults to Upminster as the start point and has to be scrolled through to find Tower Hill).
Some time back I studiously entered Queensway as closed each trip whilst it was being refurbished. Train then auto announced on approach to Mile End and Monument, likewise I entered Regents Park whilst that was being done as well as adhoc or other closures when I know about them.
One other note, a few annoucements sound audiably but do not appear on the dot matrix, which goes blank, and a few others appear on the dot matrix but do not sound audiably ! These seem to be software bugs rather than intentional, as there is no logic to them.
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Post by District Dave on Feb 7, 2008 16:40:31 GMT
Isn't the plan for 09ts to have Service Information relayed direct to the train? Then all the trains would just announce the station closures themselves. There is I believe the facility within Connect to have messages broadcast via the radio system to the PA, so I cannot see that this is not feasible. Of course, this relies on there being a connection between the radio and PA equipment, which there is not on the C and D Stocks.
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Post by District Dave on Feb 7, 2008 16:52:12 GMT
I agree with aspect on the matter of the lack of an Ealing Broadway/Tower Hill (and vice versa) options; indeed I see no reason why all the west end terminii cannot have Tower Hill as a pre-programmed route option - and come to that a Barking option for each - there are plenty of Barking reversers as booked workings.
I commend your use of the stations closed facility; I'd be happy to do the same if I had a list of the relevant codes - I've never seen one personally.
I wonder if 'they' tried to keep the system and options as simple as possible so that there was not 'overload' to the T/Ops when the kit first came in - if so the time has surely arrived that it's undoubted capabilities be used more extensively , and relavantly too.
I was however on the phone to the LSM yesterday and he mentioned that there is a publication in production which may well include details such as the CIS codes etc. Maybe there are moves afoot!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2008 17:07:21 GMT
Isn't the plan for 09ts to have Service Information relayed direct to the train? Then all the trains would just announce the station closures themselves. There is I believe the facility within Connect to have messages broadcast via the radio system to the PA, so I cannot see that this is not feasible. Of course, this relies on there being a connection between the radio and PA equipment, which there is not on the C and D Stocks. The system where the controller could speak to passengers was introduced with the 92 stock, I think...? What I meant was that a computer signal could be sent to the train to trigger off a DVA code (eg: the closure of Queensway) meaning the driver doesn't need to carry round a list of codes and it allows the controller to choose what needs to be said and keeps the information up to date (hopefully!)
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Post by junior on Feb 10, 2008 9:17:44 GMT
Travelling on a Barking terminator can be a fun experience. Where will it terminate? who knows! Coming home one night, p*ssing with rain, Barking train terminates at platform 3. Not great when you're in the rear coach. If you can, please let us know if you're intended location at Barking is indeed platform 3 (H&C drivers need not read / reply)!
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Post by District Dave on Feb 10, 2008 10:58:51 GMT
Travelling on a Barking terminator can be a fun experience. Where will it terminate? who knows! Coming home one night, p*ssing with rain, Barking train terminates at platform 3. Not great when you're in the rear coach. If you can, please let us know if you're intended location at Barking is indeed platform 3 (H&C drivers need not read / reply)! The problem is that quite often we don't know ourselves until we get to the signal where the bay road can be offered and the signaller calls and asks us to accept. Personally I do do an announcement at East Ham on all Barking reversers just in case - I know it does annoy people if they have to run down from the bay while an Upminster hurtles into the platform!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2008 8:32:08 GMT
Well, this morning's train did have an announcement about changing at Monument. However, I wonder if that was because the DVA was stuck at South Ken.
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