Bromley By Bow Westbound

I notice it a lot leaving West Ken EB.... its annoying but I just accept this is the District. personally what is more annoying to me is the NUMEROUS locations where the Signals do not work as they should, IE approaching Ealing common both directions (draw ups), hammersmith, etc etc! They can't be bothered to invest and fix the equipment... only on the District line

Oh and also it annoys me that I don't get free hot drinks from the canteen any more hehe... cheapskates!

Oh yeah another thing that annoys me... that bloody policeman approaching Wimbledon.. I hit it the other day and wondered what the hell it was! It is so so annoying you can see the signal aspect from miles away why they think people will hit it is beyond me! Where else have they stuck a policeman in the middle of nowhere for people to hit... maybe they should put a bright sign next to it saying POLICEMAN WARNING... or just remove the dam thing

I'm interested to know what is wrong with the signals approaching Ealing Common. From memory that'll be WM3,4A,4B on the east and WM23A, 23B on the west. It used to be one of my favourite work sites before I retired and one of the few sites where one could carry out full and complete local and remote frame tests wholly within the IMR.

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The dropout at Bromley w/b must be new - I've ridden trains through that station which didn't drop out and kick unexpectedly. When did it first become apparent?

It must be a good six months or so but it's beginning to become more aggressive now.

sounds like the p-way have adjusted the height of the postive rail or the ramp has worn right down now

It is not the speed that the trainstop goes down at that is the problem... it is the fact that it is there at all! There is no point at all to have it.

Absoluetely agree....

Wholey unacceptable kick, pulls open doors causing loss of pilot light and overloads drop out if you have the weak filed flag up and TMS alert bleeping away ...
Bromley-by-Bow w/b, Parsons Green w/b and West Kensington e/b. Very notable from a passenger perspective as well as the drivers!

Draw up signals that don't work ..loads of them ...WM400 particularly notable as WM4 in advance, clears notably before WM400 giving risk of read through.

That train stop at Wimbledon, what a joke, LUL signed for 30mph, but will most certainly trip a train doing 30mph. Leeway on a C stock even less as the trip is further forwards. Plus it is hidden under a bridge and a long way before the signal it slows you down for and substantially before the Network Rail 30mph sign for that section, NR trains of course are not tripped by train stops.

I may also add mirrors that are not properly aligned for refurb D stock. East Ham e/b where you can't see the rear car if anyone is standing on the curved platform. Dagenham East e/b where there is no stopping point capable of seeing all 24 doors from the stopping mark. There are several others that require much head craning to see the lot ! The platforms are supposed to be visible from the stoppping mark from the normal seated drivers position, beats me who is testing them, the only places I have been asked by staff if they are ok, are the stations that are ok !!!

As with all of these things, there seems no motivation to do anything about them !

I was told you have to be doing 20 for it to go down... the speed there is 30 :S If you do 30 you will be tripped. Also it is worth noting that the 30 speed limit is a LUL sign... there is no Network rail speed limit sign until after the home signal when it goes to 15 (and a advance warning of this prior).... the limit and trainstop are ridiculous. And atearlscourt I know the platform ones are needed for safety reasons, of course I realise this. But this one isn't!!!

easiest thing to do is call the FRC yourselfs on 1240 if your DMT's aint doing nothing about it failing that contact your H&S reps

The sleeping Policeman approaching W375 was installed as a SPAD mitigation measure, and the speed it should drop at is 25mph. The 30mph sign is indeed wrong, but that is a NR infrastructure issue not an LUL one.

I have to say I'm getting rather concerned at some of our new drivers not being given the correct information - are you lot just not listening, or is it poor road training from the I/O's?

As for Bromley-By-Bow, I find you get a smoother departure by staying in series for a little bit before hitting parallel - mind you there's no real point in speeding off as there's the 20mph PSR for the sharp curve not far up the road! It's still not really acceptable though that drivers have to adjust to poorly maintained infrastructure.

Locations with similar issues (and where I move off in the same manner) are Ealing Common eastbound, Putney Bridge eastbound and Parsons Green westbound - but the common theme with those is the points in vicinity.

We also loose contact with the juice rails a couple of times just after leaving Gunnersbury westbound - if you look closely you can see where the negative rail drops slightly in both places

Oh yeah, and platform 4 at high street is another - a low positive rail means the front unit of a C stock ends up off juice and the front motor car on D stock

Finally, the DMT's - Hmmmm.

They're getting more and more like DSM's everyday. I thought those at Upminster were the better ones on the District, how wrong I'm starting to be proven.........but I'll say no more as I suspect they most likely read this forum!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm finding more & more these days that if there's a problem out on the line, you're better off reporting it to the FRC via the line controller. After approaching no less than 5 DMT's about lineside vegetation obscuring the aspect on signal A583b (approaching Ravenscourt Park eastbound) and getting nowhere, I reported it to the LC and it was dealt with by the next day.

With regards to DMTs not following up faults to the FRC. Aside from doing it yourself and then chasing it up (you could add this as part of your P&D!).

The thing that might get the DMTs to do something is a Whats Wrong form. Yes, they still exist, and if you are licenced and don't know what one is then you haven't be competance assured properly!

Oooppss sorry about that..........I slipped into LUL world there ;D ;D

As for the P&D (performance & Development) aspect - good thinking.....I spose I could use that as a competency (more LUL speak ) in future promotional applications.

I'll soon have another up my sleeve - got to see the District line performance manager (trains) again in December regarding my SPAD at Whitechapel last summer...........and if he's reading this, I will be raising A681 again! ;D ;D

HERE! HERE! to everything aspect has just said regarding the Wimbledon policeman.

Not any time soon, considering it was only commissioned a few years ago.

I believe it was a compromised overlap issue rather than a SPAD mitigation one through.