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Post by paterson00 on Jul 7, 2009 20:18:59 GMT
I have come from overground where we mostly had HW, Clamp Locks and HPSS. What do you have?
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Post by Tom on Jul 7, 2009 23:00:13 GMT
Most LU point machines are either Four Foot or Chairlock. There are a number of Clamplocks, and M63s are becoming far more commonplace.
There are no HPSSs and only a handful of HW (IIRC 7 ends) at Waterloo.
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Post by paterson00 on Jul 8, 2009 4:47:14 GMT
Ok thanks for that, so can you tell me anything about the points that you mentioned. Or could you point me in the direction of some pictures or even better an animated description?
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Post by railtechnician on Jul 8, 2009 10:38:18 GMT
Most LU point machines are either Four Foot or Chairlock. There are a number of Clamplocks, and M63s are becoming far more commonplace. There are no HPSSs and only a handful of HW (IIRC 7 ends) at Waterloo. Don't forget the dozens of ends of 6 foots or have they all been replaced in the last four years?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 12:26:56 GMT
no the 6 foots are still there also there is contactless box points on the vic line direct drive (drivers are told these are called spring togle) and apprently hw2000 which we supposed to be getting god knows when though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 1:59:35 GMT
Most LU point machines are either Four Foot or Chairlock. There are a number of Clamplocks, and M63s are becoming far more commonplace. There are no HPSSs and only a handful of HW (IIRC 7 ends) at Waterloo. I've seen HPSSs up close at some locations, and those things are beastly. Would they make any sense to use on LU metals?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 9:20:58 GMT
maybe on the met line where there is high speed moves but generally on lul it would be a waste i think
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Post by railtechnician on Jul 11, 2009 19:44:16 GMT
no the 6 foots are still there also there is contactless box points on the vic line direct drive (drivers are told these are called spring togle) and apprently hw2000 which we supposed to be getting god knows when though Well if mentioning direct drive you must also include extended drive as on west of of Picc, not forgetting the many variants of four foot and six foot, single switch, throw off, wide to gauge, power facing spring trailing, single and double slips and movable angles etc Plain spring toggles have no motors of course and no indications and then there are loose points also with no indications whereas switchlocks have no motors but do have indications. Then there were also going to be Surelocks just after I retired, does the Jubilee have them yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 22:19:17 GMT
stratford depot has 1 set i beleive but none on the main line so far as they will replace the m63 eventually
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Post by Tom on Jul 12, 2009 16:17:20 GMT
One set at Wembley, one at Edgware and a couple at Stanmore I believe - all in the 6' mounted variety.
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Post by paterson00 on Jul 13, 2009 18:30:37 GMT
The HPSS are generally regarded as being an over-engineered piece of equipment by installers and maintainers alike. I dont think you will ever see them in huge amounts on LUL. They do work underwater so..... thats always handy i suppose..... (tumbleweed moment)
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Post by mrfs42 on Jul 14, 2009 15:08:44 GMT
In all honesty, IP67 protection is more than overkill.
Unless you were using the HPSS is some form of wierdly designed saltwater swingbridge, I can't think of a situation that would *normally* require IP67 protected switch motors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 11:24:24 GMT
the ebiswitch points was good no need to worry about ballast in the switch it was just crush it to bits
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