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Post by Ben on Apr 17, 2009 18:22:38 GMT
Quick question, how do the dimensions of a carriage and train compare to that of say a three car unit of something like 1972 ts? I appreciate they must be quite a bit smaller, because of the smaller track gauge, but does anyone have any figures? Also, how small are the wheels? They seem to be small enough to allow doors over them. How come this proved an insurmountable problem for LUL during the years of the space-train concept? Thanks to all!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2009 20:04:56 GMT
*rummages for Circles Under The Clyde Book*
Ahh, 4ft gauge!
Floor Height 695mm above rail, wheel diameter nominally 688mm though minimum can be 638mm, motors 35.6kw GEC 312AZ nose suspended axle hung.
Doors are 7.016m centre line from bogie pivots.
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Post by jazza on Apr 17, 2009 21:18:03 GMT
And having travelled frequently on both the "Clockwork Orange" and both 72 and 73 tube stock, the Glasgow stock is much smaller and can feel very cramped. While we are on the subject of the Subway in Glasgow, a £20m facelift was announced today, link here......... news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8004777.stm |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2009 21:21:06 GMT
Well, at least the BBC got the refurbishment years correct... ;D
Sorry Benedict, but after reading the book, I've not spotted anything that mentions the car demensions.
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Post by Tomcakes on Apr 17, 2009 21:22:48 GMT
I'd ought to pop over for a wee ride on it, been a couple of years since I last did. ISTR it smelt very damp down there.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 17, 2009 23:19:36 GMT
Usually smelt of faintly Saturday nights haggis suppers when I travelled on it Sunday mornings to ring at the Cathedral. Lovely system; must take AI up there for a jolly.
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 17, 2009 23:36:29 GMT
Quick question, how do the dimensions of a carriage and train compare to that of say a three car unit of something like 1972 ts? I don't know the dimensions of a Glasgow Subway train, but a 3-car 72TS unit is about 48.04m long, 2.64m wide and 2.88m high. |
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Post by jazza on Apr 18, 2009 0:52:09 GMT
Usually smelt of faintly Saturday nights haggis suppers when I travelled on it Sunday mornings to ring at the Cathedral. Lovely system; must take AI up there for a jolly. Haggis Suppers!!!! Now Now, no need to tar us all with the same brush, some of us prefer the deep fried mars bar. |
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 18, 2009 9:47:51 GMT
There was something quite special about the battered haggis and battered black pudding (without any white bits in) - there used to be an ace chippy out on the Dumbarton Road.
Interesting that the signalling system is shown for an upgrade - this would be the third since the 1970s: first up grade was localised air main and trip cocks, second was fitting balises and computer control/oversight.
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Post by Tomcakes on Apr 18, 2009 21:28:14 GMT
Usually smelt of faintly Saturday nights haggis suppers when I travelled on it Sunday mornings to ring at the Cathedral. Lovely system; must take AI up there for a jolly. Haggis Suppers!!!! Now Now, no need to tar us all with the same brush, some of us prefer the deep fried mars bar. Nothing beats deep fried pizza supper, salt and sauce, followed by deep fried ice cream. What's that? Heart attack on a plate? Pah! |
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 18, 2009 23:28:28 GMT
That explains why you only drink diet coke! I only had a pizza supper once - I was starving and wandering around Maryhill slightly drunk.
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Post by SE13 on Apr 19, 2009 7:34:14 GMT
Ah yes, I remember being in Rosyth one time, and the mobile chip van came around. (They just don't have this luxury in England) Battered haggis, battered black pudding, chips, sauce and salt. The business!
Anyway, we digress......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 11:45:20 GMT
but 'a 3-car 72TS unit is about 28.8m high. What? |
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Post by Chris M on Apr 19, 2009 11:49:49 GMT
2.88m sounds more likely
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Post by maxtube on Apr 19, 2009 14:51:15 GMT
Also the Glasgow Subway trains are ATO but with tripcocks, 1972 TS is not ATO.
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 19, 2009 20:15:48 GMT
Also the Glasgow Subway trains are ATO but with tripcocks, 1972 TS is not ATO. The Clockwork Orange is not ATO [1] and does not have tripcocks in the LU sense - no air main these days (see my comments upthread), anyway I wonder if it is worth plugging the talk that the renowned (and überknowledgeable) Brian Hardy is giving for the LURS: Tuesday 14 July 2009 "Two Quaint Undergrounds - Glasgow Subway and Post Office Railway". LURS meeting 19.00 for 19.15 in the upper room at All Souls Club House, Cleveland Street, W.1. Nearest station Great Portland Street. [1] the balises only give braking instructions on the approach to stations, track between stations does not have balises. |
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Post by Ben on May 3, 2009 2:08:35 GMT
Think this will be quite a nice birthday treat to myself! Must remember to go along.
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Post by rincew1nd on May 5, 2009 19:44:41 GMT
There was something quite special about the battered haggis and battered black pudding (without any white bits in) - there used to be an ace chippy out on the Dumbarton Road. We could always see if Skippy's will do it next time you're in the Parish? |
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Post by mrfs42 on May 5, 2009 21:01:25 GMT
There was something quite special about the battered haggis and battered black pudding (without any white bits in) - there used to be an ace chippy out on the Dumbarton Road. We could always see if Skippy's will do it next time you're in the Parish? Now then PK, you know I'm one of those vegetableararararians! Ben if you do go, you'll more than likely see me and AI. |
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Post by Ben on May 21, 2009 12:55:49 GMT
I shall wear a pink carnation then! Will be good to finally meet someone from the forum in person, I keep missing the meet ups through various means  |
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