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Post by Jerome H on Jul 10, 2016 4:08:16 GMT
Anybody home? Not behind these doors!
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 9, 2016 17:37:55 GMT
Also are they just planning to fit PEDS on the underground stations and not on stations like Stratford Central line? If we follow the JLE as an example, above ground stations don't feature PEDs. Not sure if this has to do with air circulation on the platforms since they won't have air-con or the fact that if someone is on the tracks there is significantly more places for them to flee to. If PEDS were added to above ground stations, the passenger area would probably need to be completely enclosed. True, someone really determined could find a way, but it makes stations less 'attractive'. Yes, I agree it makes stations look less appealing. The Leslie Green style Platforms would certainly loose a lot of it's detail in the upgrade and a lot of the tiling would be hidden. I for one thing that the JLE Stations are absolutely crude and soulless. It's gloomy cold and depressing and you can't see the trains. IMO the best way to keep some of the character of old stations would be to have the PEDS not be metal, but to draw from one of the colors of the heritage tiles at the platform and colors the PED frames to match When the 1996 stock are taken out of service its almost certain they will replace the PEDS as well as they will be unreliable and approaching the end of their usable life with the 96's. Wouldn't the doors themselves and windows an frames be fine, it'd be some of the motors and electrics that would need to be repaired? May I also point out, many platforms are shared between both Tube-Gauge and Sub-Surface-Gauge trains so PED's will be pointless at some stations. Also, no, the Piccadilly and District can't switch places at Rayners Lane and Ealing Broadway. You'll have too many of one type of train on the Picadilly and not enough S's to cover the District to Uxbridge. More can be ordered which is expensive.If we follow the JLE as an example, above ground stations don't feature PEDs. That would mean none of the Uxbridge branch would have PEDs. Also any of the district/piccadilly line above ground stations would also probably not receive PEDs based on that model. I'm not sure if I've missed something that mentioned above ground stations.
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 9, 2016 3:26:53 GMT
The Crossrail stations below ground will have PEDs which extend up into a fixture which goes up to ceiling height. This will have signage fixed to it as well as screens showing next train information. The Piccadilly line will be getting PEDs similar to a type used in Paris. They won't be as high as the Jubilee line extension and will be easier to install. Being pedantic, Crossrail will have Platform Screen Doors since they completely isolate the running tunnel and the platform passenger areas For the pic, the renderings look very tall
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 8, 2016 18:55:19 GMT
In the New Tube for London mock up videos, it shows stations being retrofitted with Platform Edge Doors after the new rolling stock is introduced with only double doors.
Is it likely the Victoria Line will receive Platform Edge Doors within the lifetime of the 2009 Stock's lifetime or will be goal be that the next Vicc stock will match NTFL specs and have Platform Doors to accommodate that?
With the NTFL design, would we expect the Jubille Line to always have stock matching the current 1996's or would the JLE stations have their PEDs changed for new trains in the future to match the NTFL vision?
I'm not asking in terms of hypothetical feasibility, but actual plans for new Platform Doors/expectations from those who know a bit more about the future of Platform Doors than me.
Thanks
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 8, 2016 17:31:20 GMT
Could you imagine if they didn't use the bar and had to squeeze there way back and forth across the train in the short interval between gaps. Oh the dwell times Especially as the buttons were live and it was possible to open the train doors at any speed. Yes, guys, that was why the line was surrounded by "[TIC]" ( Tongue in cheek ) pseudo-markup. I like to follow along with more of the same. If your comments are TIC (which admittedly I hadn't a clue what that meant at the time) then there's about the same chance that a Southern train was cancelled today as my comments were also not meant as serious. Two can play at your game! Now where were we? Oh yes, how unsafe these treacherous trains were down in the valley....
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 7, 2016 14:59:06 GMT
The guard would be in the rear cab Ah, that explains it. My memory of guards was mainly from my childhood, when they were in carriages, and had a small panel containing a fascinating purple light (marked IIRC 'Pilot'). [TIC]They had a bar so that when things got really crowded, they could make things even worse by reducing the size of one of the carriage they were in. [/TIC] Could you imagine if they didn't use the bar and had to squeeze there way back and forth across the train in the short interval between gaps. Oh the dwell times
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 7, 2016 2:13:47 GMT
If Chingford is not at Platform 1, I'd imagine that could also be the odd one out, since the descriptions seem to all include that so far.
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 7, 2016 0:12:42 GMT
Driver's cab side doors can be open while the train is moving, unless it's running in ATO. And with that in mind, it might be interesting to note once again that the 1967 stock were not provided with cab doors, due to their intended use with ATO. Since the 1972 stock were heavily based on the 1967 stock, they don't have cab doors either. I've always wondered about this. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 6, 2016 14:02:08 GMT
The video was absolutely delightful. A situation that could have been cold and miserable for hundreds of people was handled with such high spirits. If the trains and the history and the large civil infrastructure works weren't enough to make the Tube so fascinating for us, amazing staff justs adds the icing on the cake.
It's also interesting that the focus was on how easy evacuating people was rather than the failure that caused it in the first place
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 6, 2016 13:52:29 GMT
I really hope TfL/LU are getting compensation from the contractor for this absurdly late delivery as the original completion date of the project was January! If "extra LUL resource" is required then presumably that's TfL's cost. How can it take 6 months to sort out a bit of tiling?! Well there will no doubt be a "commercial discussion" about the delay and liability for costs. I suspect it's more than tiling. Reads to me that the actual construction of the revised adit to give access to the lift shaft is wrong or poorly done. Quite how we got this far without poor construction being spotted is anyone's guess. Unfortunately poor construction is all the rage these days. Especially for a public entity, the need to "Value Engineer" to bring costs down often results in a some rather shoddy workmanship. I work at a student center at a major US university which has just unveiled a brand new wing after 2 years of construction. Doors to the new wing opened about 6 months behind schedule, as there were so many mistakes with the fire systems, already broken areas, misaligned walls. It was very disappointing to see. As another aside our on-campus (American) football stadium underwent a major overhaul in the late 2000s, and the financial penalties for each day late were so staggering that the contractor had to work fast and well. I'm sure LU/TfL don't have deep enough pockets to negotiate strong delay compensation for a couple of lifts, but there will a financial penalty in place if we're past the end of the project date.
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 5, 2016 1:43:36 GMT
Personally speaking I'd love to work at Bank, but I'm sure most of you would look at me like I'm mental. That might be because they're about to undergo some major work and I enjoy that.
One of the things to consider will be stations that have Crossrail services in the future. If you work at one of these stations it'll get very busy on the LU side.
If you want a bigger station, interchanges are fun. You might enjoy Stratford, Baker Street, Edgware Road (Sub Surface)
If you want the daily hustle and bustle, anywhere on the central could be fun.
Disclaimer: it's been many years since I've been to many of the Zone 1/2 stations, so take what I've said with a grain of salt
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 4, 2016 4:33:23 GMT
I'll guess Swiss Cottage for the inset
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 3, 2016 22:52:47 GMT
Theres no yellow line at North Weald?
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 2, 2016 23:29:57 GMT
I guess it's a 50/50.
Would North Weald be the Odd One out because it doesn't have any regular service?
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 1, 2016 22:40:14 GMT
Is West Indian Quay the odd one out because it's the only platform a train can't/doesn't call at, even for an exhibition/railtour/movie recording/regular service?
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 1, 2016 16:51:50 GMT
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 1, 2016 1:36:22 GMT
if you use Apple Pay, is that via Oyster or Bank Card.
On a non tube note I started using Apple Pay and I assume the management think smartphone payments will be the norm and no doubt the end of Big Oyster
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 1, 2016 1:33:42 GMT
Would the link have to do with platforms that don't serve trains anymore, with Custom House being the the oddity
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 29, 2016 16:23:14 GMT
Cheers Daz! NXG are really kept out of the loop, it seems the further away from Swiss Cottage you get, the more forgotten you are! God help Chingford! Excuse my ignorance, but what's special about Swiss Cottage?
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 28, 2016 18:09:38 GMT
Broken Link, it would seem
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 28, 2016 0:33:04 GMT
Crystal Palace for the main?
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 26, 2016 15:36:28 GMT
Isn't the Distirct Line one of the most above ground lines? The idea that working Welsh railways is more tolling than tube runs is pretty funny. But of course, it's all about DOO. The nerve of someone to use ex-LU stock on National Rail... deplorable
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 25, 2016 11:21:22 GMT
I've been at Peterborough Station to assist my brother onto a train, so I asked if I could get onto the platform from the guy at the Gateline and he let me through. I think they'll realize you aren't trying to pull a fast one since you'll need to show a ticket to a guard on board
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 25, 2016 9:10:40 GMT
Is A London City Airport DLR?
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 23, 2016 1:06:22 GMT
So these trains will be able to evacuate people through the side doors in the tunnels under the city? Fascinating.
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 22, 2016 21:20:24 GMT
Do trains no longer need doors on the front and back? Going into a tunnel, I feel like this would be a safety feature that shouldn't be overlooked (Not that I'm well versed on UK train regulations...or any train regs and also realize that Thameslink and the Heathrow Services don't have them)
I'm also not keen on the plug doors underground purely as a matter of not being used to seeing them next to Platform Doors.
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 20, 2016 12:09:17 GMT
Well my final guess is Bermondsey, and if it's not that, I'll have to sink my head into a pint
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 20, 2016 10:17:28 GMT
Canada Water?
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 20, 2016 1:44:41 GMT
A looks like the benches at Canary Wharf.
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 19, 2016 4:10:08 GMT
Is the link Stairs?
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