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Post by Jerome H on Feb 16, 2024 0:11:51 GMT
Metropolitan, District, Circle, Victoria, Jubilee, Central, Piccadilly, Elizabeth, Crossrail, Thameslink... None of these give a clue where the railways go. Even Barkerloo is fairly inaccurate these days (and not obvious if you don't know about the history of the line). The Metropolitan, District, Central, and Piccadilly line names are all derived from shortenings of the railways that built the line. Metropolitan (Metroland), Central (Central London), and Piccadilly (Piccadilly Circus) also clue into where the railway goes. Similarly the Circle line goes in a circle, the Victoria line goes to Victoria and the Bakerloo line goes to Baker St and Waterloo. Tube line names are storied in either a nod to their history or geography. The new London overground names may be derived from history but they are not from the history of the railway. Therein lies my gripe.
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Post by Jerome H on Feb 15, 2024 10:37:23 GMT
Maybe I’ve been in the United States too long, but I think these names are silly. New York wouldn’t even call a transport line the liberty line. As for the rest, you shouldn’t need a history or cultural lesson to understand which train line you are on. I see the international community struggling enormously with this and locals not adapting to these.
The purpose of naming the lines was to improve wayfinding and make the system easier to use. I don’t see how these names do that over the geographic names that should have been adopted.
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Post by Jerome H on Sept 27, 2021 13:42:14 GMT
How long has the connection at Finsbury Park been shown with no separation? Thought the design intent was that touching lines were for lines that shared track.
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Post by Jerome H on Oct 24, 2020 13:16:52 GMT
Wanted to share a different perspective on the this. Found a TikTok video (which is pretty well done if you ask me) with a caption that reads “that one person that falls asleep on TfL”. Not the tube, not the underground, not the overground, TfL. vm.tiktok.com/ZMJaTuJ7e/Maybe the general public have a better perception of TfL and the services that we give them credit for.
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Post by Jerome H on Sept 24, 2020 1:11:04 GMT
Found another one: Evelyn, a Ticket Office Clerk/CSA featured at Victoria in the Going Underground series during the closure of the Ticket Office is shown in the 2003 series escorting a beggar of the train at Victoria.
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Post by Jerome H on Sept 20, 2020 1:09:26 GMT
Evening All,
I’ve been rewatching some of the “The Tube: Going Underground” and “The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track” episodes via YouTube and I’ve just noticed that Alexis, one of the CSAs featured for the uniform fashion show, is seen working at Kings Cross mainline for East Coast Trains. Anyone know of other recurring characters in the various documentaries about the Tube?
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Post by Jerome H on May 28, 2020 5:25:21 GMT
Another LUL/TfL insider who won't rock the boat I wouldn’t be so sure - he amassed a decent following with modernization schemes and plans to bring the NY Subway back to glory, even earning the nickname “Train Daddy” from the urban planning youth. The disagreements between Mr. Byford and the Governor were well documented in the press and good old American politics ultimately led to him tendering his resignation. In any case I’m glad to see him land on his feet!
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 11, 2019 12:31:11 GMT
Signalling and platform numbering is generally connected. It is easier to ‘skip’ the missing platform than add it in later, especially when there is passive provision for it already in place. Numbering as 1-3 would either result in 4 being at the ‘wrong’ side (think Stanmore) Is there any reason to why the three platforms had to be counted in the direction they are? Instead of unbuilt->2,3->4 why couldn’t it have been unbuilt->3,2->1?
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Post by Jerome H on Feb 15, 2019 3:01:59 GMT
Possibly for the staff who can resort to cracking jokes over it on break "oh make me a cup of tea, after all you're here to help", or for the daily commuters who wouldn't dare ask for help and think it's an insult to the spirit of London, or the tourists who spent the time learning how to say "are you a customer service assistant, I need your guidance on navigating this marvel of engineering that has withstood the test of time". I guess if one finds it patronizing they aren't the target audience. @jeromeh the main issues are the potential for the red vests to be confused with an emergency signal when on the platform necessitating it being frequently reversed multiple times a day (probably annoying and time consuming) - afaik this has never been an issue with any previous uniform/vest/jacket/tabard/whatever. That they look very similar to the red vests worn by official Big Issue sellers, who are frequently seen around the entrances to tube stations, is poor design work on the part of LU (as is the uniform not standing out in the first place) but that's only a minor issue. Chris - I appreciate the insight. I haven't a clue what an emergency signal looks like, but by that logic couldn't any passenger in a red shirt trigger a false alarm? A waved flag looks very different than an article of clothing at rest and I doubt TfL are asking their staff to wave their coworkers in red vests around to signal danger (could you imagine seeing that on a platform). Alright I've worn out my attempts at bad satire - I'll chime back in when red sashes or a whole new alternative uniform with red as the base color is released - or they realize an orange hi-vis is a natural attention seeker and change policy after giving everyone these new vests. If there's a strike over this and I ever make it over there during a forum meet there'll be a round on me!
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Post by Jerome H on Feb 15, 2019 1:14:35 GMT
I've visited this thread a few times since it's inception and I honestly can't see what all the fuss is about. I've thought about it from the perspective of the staff who'll spend a few extra seconds at the start of their shift making sure their vest is the right way round, the passengers in the station who actually need to find said members of staff, the folks who are up in arms over their job duties plastered on the back of their uniform, and the management who'll spend time making sure this policy is enforced properly ... and it all just feels so trivial one way or another. We've had various hats, pink vests, orange vests, etc. to identify staff, but red vests?? The nerve!!
What am I missing?
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Post by Jerome H on Dec 16, 2018 5:21:57 GMT
Anything can be classed as art, even a blank cover! So it’s actually impossible for art not to be on the front cover. Cue the discussion on philosophy! If you really want to get into it, what isn't an appropriate place for art? Where I am, any building built with public funds must have some form of art on display*. Usually that means a sculpture here or there, but it allows new outlets to be provided, especially on college campuses and government buildings. Despite the mixed feelings towards this particular edition, I'd assume we all prefer the next bold/disputed artwork over the space being relinquished for purposes of ad revenue. Unless we switch to writing "MAP" in big bold letters, which could just as well be considered art. *Source: Link
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Post by Jerome H on Dec 16, 2018 4:59:23 GMT
Which zone is Sheffield in? West Riding <hums Ilkey Moor baht 'at> [cough] On topic please, we can all make typos/autocorrects from time to time! I'm happy that my little typo has managed to keep people chuckling for 6 months now. Although I suspect this Crossrail launch might beat that record. That said, I do feel for the folks who've managed to get parts of this project completed on time, yet won't receive any praise since it's an all or nothing affair.
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Post by Jerome H on Oct 5, 2018 0:14:09 GMT
Is 3 Kew Gardens?
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Post by Jerome H on Aug 9, 2018 18:28:55 GMT
I was on a completely automated people mover the other day with no platform or on board staff and noticed a children’s rucksack that had been left. In that moment it was very difficult to judge whether to leave in place and let the people mover continue with unsuspecting patrons while I attempted to figure out who to contact or to remove the item if I felt it was safe to do so.
Even though the action of moving the bag is the same, having a trained member of staff complete that action appears to be the best possible outcome for public perception if there isn’t an immediate need to vacate.
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 16, 2018 15:29:49 GMT
As much PR as there is about the Elizabeth line there will be plenty of people who will be expecting to go from Sheffield to central London direct this December Crossrail is going to Sheffield!? I guess the Sheffield commuters are out of luck! As for the Shenfield commuters...
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 16, 2018 13:04:12 GMT
For those of you able to draw on previous line openings and how they were phased - was there an instance of a line opening in fragments adjacent to each other? With the JLE the Stratford piece was very clearly disconnected from the old Jubilee.
As much PR as there is about the Elizabeth line there will be plenty of people who will be expecting to go from Sheffield to central London direct this December and haven’t paid near as much attention as we have. The pictures of the platform line diagrams in Farringdon show the fully connected line and the wayfinding signage has Shenfield, Heathrow and Reading as destinations. Come December 9, it’ll be difficult to inform passengers of the current and future services without overloading them with too much information.
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Post by Jerome H on Apr 29, 2018 20:03:41 GMT
I have nothing to contribute in regards to your question, only a pedantic comment that the title should say NYCT (New York City Transit) Mod edit: Fixed. Perhaps a PM to the OP next time would be more appropriate?
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Post by Jerome H on Mar 13, 2018 20:48:26 GMT
Ah well that’ll do it for my yearly quiz participation! Until next year...
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Post by Jerome H on Mar 13, 2018 19:00:37 GMT
Spot on with the link, now why was the Chinese flag chosen? If 2008 has anything to with it, I’d guess something about Beijing hosting the olympics that year
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Post by Jerome H on Mar 13, 2018 13:32:43 GMT
Tower Gateway is is odd one out, and you're most of the way there with the link but not precise enough. All four stations were under construction in 2008, however Tower Gateway was only under renovation and reopened in 2009. The rest opened in 2008.
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Post by Jerome H on Mar 13, 2018 10:29:09 GMT
All of these stations seem newish ( having said that they probably opened last decade). Is Tower Gateway the odd one out because it was recently refurbed instead of being brand new?
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Post by Jerome H on Mar 12, 2018 22:53:04 GMT
Paddington?
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Post by Jerome H on Mar 12, 2018 1:17:02 GMT
B looks like Tower Gateway DLR. you can see railings on the platform edge, but I can’t tell if it’s from the front of the train or behind the buffers.
B’s background is the Chinese flag. I’ll hazard a guess that it was chosen because of the news out of China about term limits for the presidency revoked.
My first instinct for C is Arnos Grove
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Post by Jerome H on Mar 11, 2018 3:19:52 GMT
The thing that really bugs me is inconsistency: after wide Oyster roll-out there is no meaningful separation between TfL services and the rest (from the passenger's point of view). It is just misleading and might direct people to less convenient services. Standard oysterization, Yet we’ve got a map with a special tram zone and a novelty ride that also has it’s own fares. As for misleading, I’d expect most people who use the maps to not be regular users, and who might enjoy a scenic journey above ground with a slightly less crowded train (or at least would be perfectly happy in their bliss) Those on holiday might not be so time-conscious, nor would i expect them to google train frequencies. As for the paper map, I’m sure most of them end up in the likes of this forum. If I was still in London I’d grab 10 at a time. I’d be surprised if those on the forum didn’t do the same.
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Post by Jerome H on Feb 6, 2018 16:15:29 GMT
Out of curiosity, how many different trains will a driver drive on a typical shift?
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Post by Jerome H on Jan 25, 2018 17:09:09 GMT
The inside looks great, but the outside photo shows the monstrous carbuncle entrance on the front of Victoria Station. Didn't TfL learn from that horrid entrance building in front of King's Cross?! Couldn't agree more. That entrance outside KX pees me off every time I see it. What a wasted opportunity. If you wouldn’t mind, what about this and KX would you consider a wasted opportunity?
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Post by Jerome H on Dec 26, 2017 17:44:22 GMT
They getting well paid for it Do they work directly for TfL? Or is this part of a short or long term maintenance contract?
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Post by Jerome H on Dec 20, 2017 14:54:17 GMT
Honesty it’d be nice to see a box around the London Underground lines in the key that referred to them as “London Undergorund Lines” and a box for the others that said “Other TfL services”
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Post by Jerome H on Dec 11, 2017 23:52:14 GMT
How wide is the distance between the yellow line and the edge of the platform on most LU platforms? Can such a small distance be considered such a crucial safety feature? Or does it serve more as a level of reassurance for the drivers, who have a little more chance of reacting if someone is over the line, rather than the edge of platform?
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Post by Jerome H on Nov 29, 2017 21:13:49 GMT
I'd love the know how much extra revenue they are losing having to leave ticket barriers open for a sustained period of time. It must be the case that any lost revenue has a $ value less than that of any pay station staff might've received. Otherwise I'm sure there would be much more haste at staffing stations.
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