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Post by silverfoxcc on Mar 19, 2020 16:22:35 GMT
Thanks for all the info.
will file it, for future use
I understand the old stairs from the Met lines to the 'suburban' platforms are now closed which involves a a much langer walk! It was nice to just do a quick up and down if the train to West Drayton was about to leave in a couple of minutes
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Post by silverfoxcc on Mar 8, 2020 15:51:53 GMT
Phil
You said
Given both GA and LO share the same physical infrastructure then yes they ARE effectively under the same management - in the form of Network Rail signallers and timetable planners
The bottom line is that the infrastructure simply cannot handle ANY more trains - regardless of who operates them. If you want more LO services then GA trains must be removed to create room - which isn’t going to happen.
But back in 1960 they were more trains than now on the Enfield town branch so it can happen and it did back then,9tph as oppose to 6tph now So what is the problem?
If seven platforms at LS cannot handle an intense service for one hour to shift the crowds afterwards then the system is not fit for purpose,irrespective of what stock is used or rather the people that run it are not.
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Post by silverfoxcc on Mar 6, 2020 23:14:44 GMT
Arriving on the main line platforms, Can i turn left off the train Or right depending on what platform) and access the H+C platforms via stairs at the country end and the old cab road, or do i have to schlep down to the concourse and go up via p15? I will have a travelcard z1-6
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Post by silverfoxcc on Mar 3, 2020 19:27:40 GMT
Norbiton
I just asked!!!!
Many thanks and fully understood. Very much appreciated
Ron
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Post by silverfoxcc on Mar 3, 2020 0:19:56 GMT
It is funny how suddenly questions crop up in ones mind
This one occured a few moments ago
Why is there what appears to be a completely random numbering of tube stock ( not the cars in sets) but numerically
Eb 1938 stock were IIRC all 5 digit numbering with some prefixed by 0 Going by a very unsteady memory didn't some Subsurface stock also follow this Anf then on the Piccadilly the 'latest' stock is three digit, Central in the 9xxxx range and so on The standard tube stock all 4 digit in the 3xxx series ( my books are up in the loft ,so cannot be more specific) It suprises me that for an organisation that were pretty particular in the alphabetical annotation of stock, along with the year of introduction. Used,to me, such a haphazard method On the other extreme the Croydon trams follow on from the old LT numbering
Does anyone have thoughts on this
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Post by silverfoxcc on Feb 9, 2020 21:32:45 GMT
Thanks for all the replies and in some cases a nice piece of history.
To clarify it was stations with only one platform face in operation now
So we have got the answers
Terminal 4 Chesham Kenny O Mill Hill East
One for the pub quiz tie breaker methinks
Thanks to all who replied
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Post by silverfoxcc on Feb 8, 2020 19:44:13 GMT
Read on another sight that there are four stations on th underground system that have a singlr platform. I have found
Heathrow Term 4
Mill Hill East
What are the other two?
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Post by silverfoxcc on Jan 31, 2020 0:13:46 GMT
What was 'the bridge to nowhere?
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Post by silverfoxcc on Dec 1, 2019 19:55:55 GMT
Got on at Kew around 17.30ish and had a glacial journey round to Gospel Oak. Then this came over the PA
Due to late running, this service will now run non stop to Stratford
There were some people who got on at Gospel Oak who for whatever reason didn't hear this and the look on their faces as we went past their stop was priceless
Wasn't a world record run, but interesting. Should have more limited stop services IMHO, esp when the purple line starts running. A twyford,Maidenhead.Ealing Bdy service would be nice instead of all stations, saving me nothing The only time i will save travelling from Twyford to LivSt wil be the walk to the bakerloo and the 5mins or so travelling between Pad and Lst ( guessing the last bit as i cannot find proposed timetables)
Anybody placing bets that even after the monumental cockups those in charge will get knightghoods? Personally all they should get are P45's
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Post by silverfoxcc on Dec 1, 2019 19:34:09 GMT
Back in the 50/60's when crowds og 55k plus were the norm LT used to draft in Trolleys from as other garages to have upwards of 30 waiting to go south to Manor house ( Nearest tube then) I am trying to find WTT for the pre Nov 60 and Post Nov 60rics , when steam went to Electric to see what was put on then. BUT when the ele ctric came in there was, from Lower Edmonton a 9ph service 00.20.40 were the fast to Lst. 3,23,43 all stations 13,33,53 all stations to Hackney Downs abd then Fast to Lst. These timings could be used from WHL and possibly using the 00 and 13 interval seven sisters and Lst only leaving the 3,23,43 services as all staions for the post match services i feel Tfl missed a trick when the stadium was first announced by not building a matchday only station next door to the depot.Most of the trackwork is there, needed a island platform and oyster readers. (Unless there are rules and regs i am not privy to) Buses could still be stacked in Northumberland Park and Landsdowne Rd to offer shuttle services to Manor House/Turnpike lane/Wood Green tubes to take pressure off the Victoria line at Tottenham Hale and Seven Sisters, Perhaps it is a combination of bean counters, the lack of enthusiasm of giving a good public service, and of getting staff to cover these 4 hours is the big drawback. But it has been done in the past so there is no excuse not to say it wont work. Be interesting to hear what the pros think
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Post by silverfoxcc on Nov 7, 2019 21:19:42 GMT
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Post by silverfoxcc on Oct 2, 2019 22:48:00 GMT
Re Cust care. I hope the person involved in the incident last night is ok. There were a few 'tuts' from pax, on hearing there were delays but i didn't bother trying to explain that their problem might pale into insignificance, they appeared to be too wrapped up in their own universe BTW the announcers were doing a good job keeping people informed on where trains were and timings
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Post by silverfoxcc on Jun 30, 2019 12:20:05 GMT
Being a bit pedantic, wasn't the 'bar' at Liverpool St on the 'outer' circle. If my addled memory is correct and i am going back nearly 60yrs when a 12yo schoolboy would have raised eyebrows going into it, it was to the East die of the centre of the station. As an aside the current issue of the London Railway Record has a very good article on the origins of the station and the Arcade above
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Post by silverfoxcc on Jun 9, 2019 14:48:53 GMT
Re the 'crossed' W at West Brompton.
Where are the other two situated?
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Post by silverfoxcc on Nov 3, 2018 17:45:25 GMT
Slightly o/t
Paddington ..No o/h, Loco hauled trains and no crossrail works!
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Post by silverfoxcc on Nov 3, 2018 17:22:35 GMT
I thought Meridian Water was being sited to the south of Angel Road ( but i havent been there for a while)
just needs someone to suggest west and we have it covered lol
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Post by silverfoxcc on Aug 16, 2018 18:49:13 GMT
Am i correct in saying that when built, the two original platforms had 'skylights' that illuminated the area, and if the fancy took them, passengers could look up and see the sky?
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Post by silverfoxcc on May 18, 2018 12:01:10 GMT
A chap on another forum is building a 5in live steam 9F. His user name is 92220 ( guess what one he is doing?)
I mentioned that last Sunday i travelled on the trailer numbered the same
He asked if i could get a pic. As it was the last time we will be on the Central for some time, if anyone on here can get a picture of it full length and close up of number If possible. he will be the recipient of an internet pint and Steves eternal thanks
Thanks
Ron
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Post by silverfoxcc on Apr 8, 2018 17:32:39 GMT
Gents. This thread is the reason i do not understand Electricity. Fascinating reading, but it could be written in Klingon and i still wouldnt understand it (lol)
But please keep it up, on day it might just click. My lad tried to explain it by describing a river flowing... still didnt get any of it!!
All i know is dont tread on anything..one of the reasons i never bunked Southern sheds often
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Post by silverfoxcc on Jan 8, 2018 22:32:20 GMT
Thanks
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Post by silverfoxcc on Jan 7, 2018 23:37:04 GMT
Passing today and saw the Cravens unit plus what appeared to be a full set of 1959 stock.
Well it was silver and about 6/7 cars long!!!
Wiki seems to think the Cravens is the only tube stock preserved, so what did i see?
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Post by silverfoxcc on Dec 28, 2017 16:04:24 GMT
Snoggle
It used to be a two track alignment for the Temple Mills freight from Picketts Lock Junction up to Coppermill Jnctn (IIRC)
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Post by silverfoxcc on Dec 11, 2017 9:28:27 GMT
Tech question
What is a step plate junction?
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Post by silverfoxcc on Nov 18, 2017 13:48:02 GMT
So to get to the jubilee line from the street.it will involve three lifts?
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Post by silverfoxcc on Aug 28, 2017 23:41:37 GMT
Slighty o/t I am not great at telling colours apart on some maps.
I did a humungus trip across the states in July from West to East Coast taking in a lot of museums, mostly Train but a few aeroplane ones. So one of the 'bucket list' to do's was the whole of the Chicago loop both tracks etc. The sat nav was playing up and being one hour behind on the schedule due to a rather interesting behind the scenes tour at Illinois Railway Museum I was heading to Chicago 'blind' but i was going to head for Kedzie near Midway as there was a parking lot there and i had all the got on here get of there in my pocket. So eventually the phone decides to play and i shows me the route, check the CTA map and away we go. It was when i got to the station i couldnt find the car park, but hey ho parked on street right next to the station and in the teain with the video running to get the loop in all its glory. As we passed through Mechandising Mart i thought this is all wrong i shouldnt be here this early. Then i check the route again and find out that there are TWO stations on the system called Kedzie and the one i got directed to as i misread the route colour as BROWN on the PC was 30 miles to the north of where i wanted to be!! Once i get the videos and pics in order i will be available for speaking engagements,as that wasnt the worst thing that happened!!!!!!
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Post by silverfoxcc on Aug 28, 2017 16:31:23 GMT
trt
No just a long term lurker, but when i put up a question and get responses i always say thanks. Sort of old world politeness. I go back to tram travel from Balls Pond Road to Manor House!!! The introduction of the 'silver tubes on the picc and slam door stock on the Met as well as the lovely Q stock variants
The site and the posters never fail to deliver
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Post by silverfoxcc on Aug 27, 2017 22:13:38 GMT
Wow
Thanks a lot for the detailed replies. It is amazing wjat appears to be a simple question throws up some cracking replies!
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Post by silverfoxcc on Aug 26, 2017 20:02:28 GMT
There was a question on the TV programme Only Connect (25/8/17) that involved the Tube map and the Central Line
It stated that the colour of the Central line was originally orange.
Any idea when this happened on the map?
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Post by silverfoxcc on Aug 24, 2017 16:22:23 GMT
Waysider
Northbound!!!! Yes i never knew why they were taken out as thre trains were quite wedged and splitting the exit groups halfway along cleared the platforms a bit quicker. Now there are instances where the rear of the last trains occupants havent got to the exit and are then added to by the next train emptying. god knows how they are going to cope when the capacity doubles next year I just hope that someone suddenly wakes up and gets the soutbound Stansteds to stop at Park. They do it on some northbound before the game but it is going to be chaos for a few months until everything is organised. My son is absolutely spitting feathers as the opportunity is there at WHL to add a bay on the london side so at least a shuttle of some short could be run, if only down to seven sisters and back in between the rather laughable service they put on now. When the service was first introduced waaaay back in Nov 60 there were 9 trains an hour from Lower Edmonton, 0.20.40 fast to L Street 3.23 34 all station stoppers,13.33.53 all stations to Hackney downs then fast to LS. Surely it it not beyond the wit of man to get something like than put in for an hour or so after the game to clear the crowd. I always thought that LUL could have put an island platform in at Park to take a lot of the crowd straight onto the Vic line. With the re installation of the four track, eventually, it could still be done. We are lagging well behind the German system such as Bayern Munich and other stadia where trains appear out of nowhere to shift the crowds. Still no doubt some pessimist old b*gger will say it cant be done due to elfnsafty and lack of platforms.at LS
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Post by silverfoxcc on Aug 24, 2017 11:01:29 GMT
Waysider.
The 'new build' is in fact South of the present station on the up side I cannot remember any second stairway on the up side at all in all my years of using the station. However there was a second stairway on the down platform which was about halfway along and exited alongside the original stairs onto White Hart Lane and was used only during Spurs home matches. I also understand that there was talk at one point that there was going to be a aerial walkway from the ground to the station going over Tottenham high road,but it looks from the plans and drawing that is now dropped
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