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Post by littlejohn on Oct 17, 2019 12:12:37 GMT
I think its the F stock where the trains had to have some motors removed because the trains were deemed to be 'too powerful' with them. Hopefully someone else here will know more than me on this topic. The original F stock formation was M-T-T-T-M+CT-T-M with all three motor cars being double equipped. When the district locos were re-equipped the middle motor car was reduced to a single equipment - ie with two motors removed from the trailing bogie. In 1938 the control trailers were converted to single equipped motor cars with the motors previously removed from the middle motor cars so the trains reverted to their original 12 motors. I have been re-reading the F Stock chapter in Steam to Silver. It says that F Stock could accelerate at 1.5 mph/second, which was superior to anything else on the District. The trains were intended to be operated at 45mph but were found to be capable of achieving more than this. They were thus considered over-powered and wasteful of electricity and so 14 (with another later) were converted to single equipment. As an aside, the 14 x removed equipment was fitted in twos to the 7 electric locomotives hauling the Southend trains in order to improve their performance.
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Post by littlejohn on Oct 10, 2019 12:36:33 GMT
Aah, but which Johnston? The original Johnston, New Johnston or Johnston 100 (or indeed Johnston Delf Smith)?
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Post by littlejohn on Oct 8, 2019 8:03:48 GMT
The first S stock is approaching 10 years service, and must be due for its first overhaul soon! Really? It seems like only yesterday.
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Post by littlejohn on Oct 4, 2019 10:25:34 GMT
According to the excellent 'The Aldwych Branch' by Antony Badsey-Ellis and Mike Horne, Royal Assent was received on 5 August 1965.
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 19, 2019 15:20:32 GMT
That explains it although call-up wasn't a factor. Conscription didn't start until 1916.
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 19, 2019 15:11:32 GMT
tbf - all very true except that being unfit for military service does not necessarily equate to being infirm; unfit can be for a whole range of reasons.
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 19, 2019 12:54:58 GMT
I doubt if it was chosen specially. In 1915 before the horrors of trench warfare became apparent most men were volunteering. There are plenty of photos of daily queues at recruiting offices. It might just be that at Maida Vale there were none who were too old or unfit for military service and all the men joined up. It is though surprising that the remaining men on the system were apparently not redeployed to give a core of knowledge at each station - unless there were not enough to go round.
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Post by littlejohn on Sept 11, 2019 17:42:47 GMT
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Post by littlejohn on Aug 28, 2019 16:01:04 GMT
12 hours for 36 stations at 20 minutes each (excluding travel time between the station and the pub) is just about doable but I suspect that I would not manage the 36 pints! I must get into some serious training.
Edit: the 36 includes two for Paddington - one each for Bishop's Road and Praed Street
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Post by littlejohn on Aug 27, 2019 17:37:15 GMT
When I lived in Uxbridge there was a pub near the station called The Metropolitan. As I recall it was quite good; is it still there?
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Post by littlejohn on Aug 15, 2019 19:20:24 GMT
'With South Tottenham, one could probably get round the issue with SDO to an extent, but obviously, this isn't an option at a terminus'.
Is there a regulation that says that at a terminus station all doors must be opened? With modern 'walk through' stock you have what is effectively one long carriage. Is there any practical difference between walking from the back of the train outside down the platform or inside through the train?
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Post by littlejohn on Aug 3, 2019 8:45:27 GMT
Is the link that they are all terminus stations?
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Post by littlejohn on Aug 3, 2019 8:40:13 GMT
A is Uxbridge.
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Post by littlejohn on Jul 25, 2019 9:23:03 GMT
I have just come back from watering my broad bean wigwams at my allotment. Runner beans are on the usual long, tent-like structure.
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Post by littlejohn on Jul 2, 2019 8:03:07 GMT
and Work Wonders
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Post by littlejohn on Jul 1, 2019 18:12:59 GMT
My mother, who was born a year or so before the beginning of WW1, always referred to the Circle Line as the Inner Circle, probably because that was what her mother called it. It wasn't until the 50s that I realised that by that time there was only one Circle Line.
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Post by littlejohn on Jun 23, 2019 15:15:02 GMT
Looks like you all had a great time. Sadly I couldn't make it.
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Post by littlejohn on Jun 20, 2019 9:21:51 GMT
gantshill - thank you for sharing that with us. Now I have it as well!
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Post by littlejohn on Jun 5, 2019 12:09:14 GMT
If Hobbs Lane existed it would definitely be the odd one out.
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Post by littlejohn on May 31, 2019 11:28:26 GMT
For me it must be Uxbridge. I can still remember, 70 years ago, when quite small how entrancing it was compared to our local station at Ruislip Manor. Different sorts of trains arriving and leaving from different platforms, the towering ceiling (as it seemed to a small boy), the stained glass windows and the fact that you could leave by two different exits and see two different sets of buses all left an indelible mark on my small mind. Probably that's what led to a lifelong interest in London Transport. For those interested in Underground architecture generally, can I particularly recommend 'Underground Heritage' (Badsey-Ellis) and also 'London Underground Stations'(Durnin), both published by Capital Transport.
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Post by littlejohn on May 21, 2019 13:26:37 GMT
It has been mounted on a Diesel-powered underframe, so that people can pretend to have experienced riding on a Raven Autocar. The interior is, presumably, authentic. It is only the prime mover which has been replaced - presumably the original spark-ignition engine was no longer available, or was beyond repair, so a replacement had to be found, which happens to have compression-ignition. It's not the first "preserved" vehicle to have a new engine - see various Routemasters with their Iveco engines for example. The (hopefully) soon to be relaunched Brighton Belle has quite a lot of 4CIG under the floor. Conversely, the only part of the "Baby Deltic" currently being recreated that saw service in an original Class 23 is its engine - the rest is adapted from a class 37 bodyshell sitting on Class 20 bogies. A replica of the Ivatt LMS twins is being built from an MoD standby generator, a Class 58 frame and auxiliary components, bogies from an EM2 electric locomotive, and cabs converted from members of other classes. Surely the RMs were re-engined still in service? I don't think it had anything to do with enabling preservation.
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Post by littlejohn on May 1, 2019 18:18:45 GMT
Thank you for the video Simon. I had hoped to combine a trip on the Class 230 with a birthday visit to Bletchley Park last Saturday. Sadly I ran out of time and had to get home for a party. Another day, perhaps.
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Post by littlejohn on Apr 12, 2019 15:37:25 GMT
There are a couple of photos in Steam to Silver on pages 73 and 74 (one of a First compartment in MW stock and one of a Third in MV stock). Otherwise the LT Museum might hold some.
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Post by littlejohn on Apr 1, 2019 16:11:43 GMT
Arrrggh! Second line - November 1988. Apologies
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Post by littlejohn on Apr 1, 2019 16:10:14 GMT
I have had a look at my back numbers of 'London Underground Rolling Stock' by Brian Hardy (pub: Ian Allan). The 1990 edition says, in relation to the trial exterior repainting of the A Stock on the East London Line, that the first repaint (Unit 5066) was completed at Ruislip in November 1998. The other 6 units used on the ELL were done by Vic Berry at Leicester in 1989-90. The final one (Unit 5122) was in the Red Doors livery finally adopted, except that the roof was white instead of grey. As subsequent editions say the same thing I suppose it is correct. Additionally, the 1988 volume records that in 1986-87 various experiments were made with repainting car roofs either maroon or blue, with car numbers in matching colours.
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Post by littlejohn on Mar 11, 2019 11:43:41 GMT
There is also, at about 4.49, an advert for the Daily Mail on an overbridge which would also only be easily visible to the driver. Does this suggest that the signs were erected for the benefit of the viewing public?
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Post by littlejohn on Mar 6, 2019 18:45:41 GMT
I recall being irritated by the phrase 'A company called Associated Commercial Vehicles (ACV)' when I first read this article. Far from being the fly-by-night outfit implied, ACV was the holding company set up by AEC when it bought Maudslay, Crossley and Park Royal Vehicles. So a definite railways heritage if only marginally connected to LT rail.
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Post by littlejohn on Jan 30, 2019 10:48:55 GMT
According to 'Steam to Silver' the Met Pullman services offered light refreshments including breakfast on the Up morning trains (from Verney Junction) and a light supper on late Down trains from Baker Street, to cater for theatre traffic.
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Post by littlejohn on Jan 23, 2019 11:37:24 GMT
Brompton Road is the only one that has closed?
Preston Road is the only one not designed by Leslie Green?
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Post by littlejohn on Jan 21, 2019 11:52:39 GMT
Like rdm, I travelled on the shuttle (just once) to experience it and to tell my friends at school that I had done it. However, I often saw it in the 50s, either on a bus-spotting expedition to Chiswick Works or on my way to watch the mighty Fulham at the Cottage. It has been said that the 2 cars operating the shuttle (4167 and 4176) were selected for conversion on the basis that if the numbers were scrambled and the wrong car allocated, it wouldn't matter. Does anyone know if that is folklore or fact?
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