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Post by aslefshrugged on May 24, 2022 2:56:14 GMT
As I mentioned elsewhere Green Park and Euston have about 100 staff between them, 85 RMT members were eligible to vote on those two stations so there aren't many non-RMT staff
If I remember correctly if three consecutive stations are closed then trains run empty e.g. trains can run in passenger service from Marble Arch to Notting Hill Gate with Lancaster Gate and Queensway shut but not to Holland Park if Notting Hill Gate is shut.
If the 6th June strike goes head most likely Central Line services will be Ealing Broadway/West Ruislip to White City and Epping/Hainault to Leytonstone although last time we did run all the way into Liverpool Street for a while (non-stopping at Bethnal Green).
Also minimum staffing levels change at some stations depending on the time of day, e.g Green Park goes up from 5 to 9 in the peaks so some stations might open initially then have to close later
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 23, 2022 3:43:36 GMT
LBC's Camilla Tominey talking to RMT's John Leach
"You want to bring the Victoria, the Jubilee and the Piccadilly line to a halt over the Platinum Jubilee weekend because of a dispute with one manager!?"
I guess Tominey doesn't go on the Tube much and has never heard of "non-stopping" a station
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 21, 2022 17:04:02 GMT
The ballot of members on Network Rail and fifteen TOCs closes Tuesday 24th May, they have to give 14 days' notice of any strike action so the result will be announced too late to have a co-ordinated strike with Tube staff on Monday 6th June Unless management agree to seven days' notice which seems highly unlikely www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-launch-strike-ballot-over-pay-freeze/Just as well, I have to get the future Mrs shrugged from the Paddington Hilton to Heathrow that morning for her flight back to the States
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 20, 2022 15:21:21 GMT
I can't remember where it was but I remember reading somewhere on a strike day the workers still went to work but didn't take any fares Probably delving into fantasy, but would/could striking LU staff do this? Not collecting fares without permission from management would be grounds for dismissal and leaving the gateline open so people could just walk through could lead to overcrowding. Plus as its only two stations you could walk through the open gateline at Green Park and Euston then get clobbered for full fare when you tapped out somewhere else
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 20, 2022 11:28:48 GMT
As long as they don't come to Leytonstone...
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 20, 2022 9:33:19 GMT
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 20, 2022 9:03:10 GMT
Even if these stations are on strike zone 1 stations are very close together. Indeed Euston is half a mile or less from Euston Square, Warren Street and Kings Cross St Pancras Green Park is about half a mile from Buckingham Palace but Piccadilly Circus is about half a mile to the east and Hyde Park Corner half a mile to the west, St James Park and Victoria are roughly the same distance from Buckingham Palace to the south side while Charing Cross and Westminster are both close to the Admiralty Arch end of The Mall where the parade will finish RMT still has a mandate for strikes by all 10k members at TfL, they shut down most the the network for two days in March and caused disruption on the day in-between. This is just 85 members on strike for one day at two out of 262 stations As mentioned before this has been dragging on for months (years?), TfL/LUL had lots of time to deal with the issue (which according to various reports is due to actions of one rogue manager) but did nothing. RMT have gone by the book, followed the agreed procedures and in the end had no alternative but to ballot for strike action. Management have two weeks to sort out the mess they've created (they'll probably promote the manager out of the group)
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 19, 2022 10:51:40 GMT
Dear Mods
It seems that the Green Park/Euston strike is now being discussed on two threads
Could we migrate the appropriate comments onto the "Possible Strike" tread
Thank you
xx done xx
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 19, 2022 9:05:53 GMT
All trains running, but nobody to use them. Completely the opposite to what we Northern folk were allowed to believe; with construction workers desperate to get to site hiring private buses. Where DO they get this nonsense from? Indeed, where do they get this utter nonsense from? There were approx. 1.3m key workers in Greater London who had to get to work during lockdown, construction sites didn't shut and there were numerous reports of overcrowding during the morning peak especially on the Jubilee Line. Couldn't give a monkey's what you northern folk believed, I was working end of February to mid-August 2020 and got to see the situation as it actually was
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 17, 2022 18:32:57 GMT
Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read in the papers or on the internet
London Underground introduced a reduced service from Monday 23rd March 2020 due to staff shortages but resumed to full service timetables - sans Night Tube - Monday 18th May 2020
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 17, 2022 12:18:42 GMT
Is it a good time to have strikes, after a protracted period of restricted service? A lot of folk have learned how to manage without... What restricted service? We've been running normal timetables since June 2020 (apart from the Waterloo & City which resumed January 2022) with cancellations due to staff or stock shortages
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 14, 2022 14:39:34 GMT
According to the RMT London Calling website the ballot was for "Green Park & Euston Areas" rather than the Victoria Central Group so I think that would exclude staff working at Victoria itself and the Group reserve.
My information is probably out of date but the two areas would be about 100 staff combined, 85 RMT members were eligible, 52 voted, 42 for, 10 against
I am more than happy to be corrected
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 13, 2022 19:40:30 GMT
Has anybody got a link for this. Nothing on the RMT London Calling website or on their Twitter feed
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 9, 2022 11:38:44 GMT
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Post by aslefshrugged on May 1, 2022 12:28:54 GMT
www.rmtlondoncalling.org.uk/files/rmt_upfront_late_april_2022.pdfIt will certainly be interesting to see how this ballot goes, they only got over the statutory minimum last time Central Line was running a 15 minute Hainault - Ealing Broadway service the last two nights, not sure how often the Loughton - Leytonstone shuttles were running or how the Victoria Line was doing.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 23, 2022 16:26:54 GMT
How are trains reversing this weekend from Woodford? I went onto the live departures and I saw a few trains going to South Woodford, Hainault via Woodford and the odd few just going to Woodford. Trains aren’t terminating at Woodford but operating around the loop in each direction. Trains from platform 2 to Ealing Broadway Trains from platform 3 to West Ruislip Not quite At Hainault Trains from Woodford arrive Platform 1 then via Newbury Park WB Trains from Newbury Park arrive Platform 2 then via Woodford WB
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 23, 2022 12:22:07 GMT
Hence the ballot for action Aslefshrugged posted above. I was thinking more along the lines of non nuclear options, such as guiding the employee through the complaints procedure (I assume LU has one), encouraging them to keep a diary of bullying, seeking witnesses, and if all else fails, the constructive dismissal claim. You know, the sort of things a grown up might suggest. From the RMT statement of 22 February, which I posted on Thursday
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 22, 2022 12:22:37 GMT
Surely anyone who hasn't done a specific move in 6 months can get a "pilot" (I'll check my rulebook)
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 22, 2022 12:21:29 GMT
Never mind "driverless", how much would it cost to make the Tube "managerless"?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 22, 2022 2:03:18 GMT
How long have South Harrow sidings been shut?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 22, 2022 1:59:17 GMT
I didn't even know we had probationary contracts, from my own distant memories back in 1997 once you got through the tests, medical and interview you were on a permanent contract.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 21, 2022 7:02:32 GMT
This seems to have slipped in under the radar
From the RMT website 22 February 2022 The ballot result was announced Tuesday, of the 85 members eligible to vote 42 voted for strike action, 10 against and 49 voted for action short of a strike, 3 against
Euston and Green Park are both "areas" that consist of a single station, part of the Cover Group with Victoria. Warren Street is a Northern Line station, Oxford Circus is a Bakerloo Line station so will be unaffected.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 19, 2022 12:22:09 GMT
Yes, it was sarcastic and yes, I am a member of ASLEF but if you think that is "a dig at a different union" then you should see what that union says about ASLEF
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 18, 2022 14:44:09 GMT
ASLEF sending out ballot papers for our 4th strike ballot on potential changes to T&Cs
And we still haven't had one day of strike action
How a ''grown up'' union operates...
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 15, 2022 18:49:57 GMT
Ballots are valid for 6 months, RMT announced the result 20th December 2021 so they can carry on striking until Thursday 19th May 2022 without having to have another ballot which by a staggering coincidence is the day before Night Tube returns to Jubilee Line I thought they were striking until mid-June? And that is why I never went into the ticket office...
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 15, 2022 12:58:57 GMT
Ballots are valid for 6 months, RMT announced the result 20th December 2021 so they can carry on striking until Thursday 19th May 2022 without having to have another ballot which by a staggering coincidence is the day before Night Tube returns to Jubilee Line
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 15, 2022 9:16:37 GMT
Are there any updates on the night strikes? It's been a long while since they announced the strikes. Anyone know what LU are doing to attempt to come to an agreement with RMT? As stated earlier, it is not currently possible for TfL to give the RMT the guarantees they want (because the DfT, who hold the cards, will not give TfL those assurances), and I'm not aware that the RMT have changed their demands. Night Tube dispute is nothing to do with DfT. TfL brokered an agreement with ASLEF, part time TO23s would be allowed to take up full time TO21 jobs, Night Tube duties would become part of the TO21 roster and TO21s working Night Tube duties would be paid 50% extra. RMT want the TO23 grade reinstated but TfL aren't going to scrap the agreement they already have with ASLEF
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 14, 2022 9:35:07 GMT
BBC's Tom Edwards on Twitter
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 14, 2022 9:31:36 GMT
I have just been informed by TFL Twitter that during the ‘special timetable’ the first off peak train from Amersham is now the 10.00 am, as tapping in before 09.30 is a peak fare. Surely they could have changed the tapping in time to make the 09.30 the first Off-peak train? Unless things have changed since my time on stations (1997-2003) you can't change "tapping in time" for individual stations, it would have to be the whole system. Oyster is 1990s technology and to keep costs down it was designed as a "one size fits all" system. Then again that was nearly 20 years ago, my memory might not be working quite as well as it used to
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 12, 2022 14:42:37 GMT
Just had a look at Trackernet "Replayer"
Train 111 was due to terminate Loughton Platform 2/3 10:28, depart 10:36 but didn't arrive until 10:37
Train 013 was due to terminate Loughton Platform 2/3 10:38 but terminated on Platform 4 10:40 because Train 111 was still on Platform 2/3.
Train 013 and Train 111 were both held while Train 012 from Epping went west 10:43 from Platform 1 and Train 064 was brought out of Loughton sidings onto Platform 1 (don't know why it was in Loughton sidings, should have been at Gants Hill Outer)
Next Epping Train 016 was being held outside Loughton, should have departed 10:41. Train 013 departed Platform 4 10:47, Train 016 arrived Platform 4 10:48, departed 10:49
Previous Epping trains were Train 014, departed 10:30 and Train 015, departed 10:33
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