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Post by up1989 on Oct 17, 2016 20:45:51 GMT
Ive seen some pictures in the most recent traffic circular links like antenna installed on the lineside
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Post by up1989 on Oct 17, 2016 19:23:47 GMT
I wonder if there will be plans for PEDs on parts of the Bakerloo?
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Post by up1989 on Oct 17, 2016 16:11:04 GMT
One thing will need to happen, the trains will be delivered with cabs. apparently the new stock are being designed in a way that the cabs can be removable eventually
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Post by up1989 on Oct 16, 2016 19:14:43 GMT
I can't see new trains being introduced and run with old signalling? It almost defeats the purpose of new trains. If the trains are going to be driverless, it's say to say it could most likely go ATO. I know Network Rail were once discussing the idea of trialling trains between Kings Cross and Kings Lynn or Cambridge where trains just run on axel counters with no signals whatsoever, so if that happens and it's successful, signals could definitely become a thing of the past! (Not in our lifetime I hope) We will see new trains running on existing signalling whilst the signals are upgraded to seltrac (or other type) of ato. Similar to whats happening on the SSR network, as the other option will be to close the whole line during the upgrades.
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Post by up1989 on Oct 10, 2016 16:22:30 GMT
I was wondering because i was sitting in the cab waiting for my target to advance in the Kennington Loop and i noticed the TBC seemed Looser and the buttons all felt different but I can't remember the Unit number I will keep an eye out for the earlier ones!
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Post by up1989 on Oct 10, 2016 15:02:03 GMT
Even ATO is not currently planned for the Bakerloo as far as I know, for the reasons mentioned above. I suppose they could convert the section that isn't shared with NR (Elephant - Queen's Park) and have the remainder driven manually though. Could they not use a similar system to the SSR on the Richmond and Wimbledon branches with an ATO overlay that talks to the NR system? Thats what I was thinking as they are planning on having the Ato Overlaid on the NR Signalling
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Post by up1989 on Oct 10, 2016 6:50:32 GMT
Imagine if they fitted Sarah Siddons With ATC Equipment or a heritage steam loco Otherwise it would take a long time going along carrying out the RM Procedure lol
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Post by up1989 on Oct 10, 2016 6:41:08 GMT
hello all,
Does anyone know the first unit numbers of 95TS delivered to the Northern?
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Post by up1989 on Oct 10, 2016 6:37:53 GMT
Id like to see Highgate high level and the abandoned tunnel at the south end of Highgate sidings, apparently its populated by a rare breed of bat?
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Post by up1989 on Oct 10, 2016 6:36:06 GMT
It may just take until the 2030s to replace the existing Bakerloo line trains. Thats what I'm hoping! Ive just put in my nomination for the Bakerloo for when full time comes up (Currently NT Driver on part time) Hoping to have as much conventional driving before it all goes ATO.
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Post by up1989 on Oct 9, 2016 21:27:16 GMT
If thats the case then its unlikely it will happen before i retire and I'm 27
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Post by up1989 on Oct 9, 2016 17:10:47 GMT
I suppose they could stop the bakerloo north of Queen's Park? The main depot is at Stonebridge Park, so that would be a non starter. That is true, would they still have someone on the front of the train or would dlr style be allowed?
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Post by up1989 on Oct 9, 2016 17:09:09 GMT
Must be a big hat, some of the Northern line drivers are rather large.
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Post by up1989 on Oct 9, 2016 16:54:01 GMT
I suppose they could stop the bakerloo north of Queen's Park?
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Post by up1989 on Oct 9, 2016 16:41:57 GMT
I've heard they pick the driver out of a hat to have the honour of going first!
Fingers crossed I get the Northen one!
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Post by up1989 on Oct 9, 2016 16:39:54 GMT
Hello all,
ive been reading up about the ntfl, and I've seen the plan for driverless operation on the central and Picc by the 2030s but nothing mentioned about bakerloo driverless anyone know the reason why?
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Post by up1989 on Oct 6, 2016 21:14:04 GMT
Quite possibly city road or south Kentish Town. I've always wanted to go down south Kentish Town! Sometimes tempting to stop the train to have a look lol (not that I'd ever do that!)
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Post by up1989 on Sept 22, 2016 19:08:39 GMT
It's because the junction beyond the platform at Baker Street is with the colour-light signalled Bakerloo line. Red applies to everyone. Stop. Blue is for authorisation for a train with functioning ATP to proceed towards Bond Street. It will go blue when the train is able to proceed. Green is for the route over the junction onto the Bakerloo. Ah right that makes sense, so similar to Signal L221 in the Kings Cross Loop on the Northen that links up with the picc!
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Post by up1989 on Sept 22, 2016 18:55:03 GMT
Annoyingly on the Northern Line the other day, I was walking down the platform and could see 4, 3 and 2 were all rammed, so I carried on walking towards 1, as is my way. Got to 1, and it was almost empty. The doors on 3 reopened due to wally-blocking, but no other doors reopened. Would have got a seat if the doors on 1 had reopened as well. I know it rarely happens this way. If the top reopened all the doors it would be a mad rush and cause delays! On the Northen line the selective re open is a god send!! especially on friday and saturday nights and some wally has got on with a massive bag!
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Post by up1989 on Sept 22, 2016 18:51:53 GMT
Ive noticed a 3 Aspect signal at baker street, Red, blue & I'm assuming green (tho i haven't seen the green aspect) Is this similar to the central line ATO Signals.
On the northern line we don't have any colour light aspects on the running line and we share the same ato system with the jubilee,
whats the reason for the signal Im guessing probably for trains in rm or engineering trains?
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Post by up1989 on Sept 13, 2016 13:00:32 GMT
It's only the berth of certain semi-automatic signals that drop the code out after a period of time. It's usually locations where there's points in the overlap, or a reversing move is possible from that position (e.g. a bi-directional platform) Yep, so sound advice to anyone is check, recheck and check again. The countdown can often give indication as to when signal will clear - around 18 secs left on countdown, but don't anticipate it. What we were taught at Ashfield house is SODOSO before trying to motor up. S -signal O- opo eqpt (mirrors/monitors) D-doors O-opo S-signal O-opo even on the Northen seltrac system I still run this through my head before either ato start or wind up in pm.
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Post by up1989 on Sept 11, 2016 15:08:01 GMT
Is the station starter the only indication to the t/op that it's time to leave?
On on the northern line we have the tod that shows our movement target advance a swell time and an audible alarm letting the t/op know it's time to move.
Also so are there any other signals on th Vic line for instance at the start of the next signal block?
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Post by up1989 on Sept 10, 2016 1:34:07 GMT
Installation has already started but you won't see much as there is not a lot of lineside equipment Have they started installing the line side equipment yet? Im guessing there will be less than what we've got on the northern line as i gather the atc system will use radio rather than induction loop?
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Post by up1989 on Sept 7, 2016 16:40:17 GMT
How many s sock will be converted to atc per month. When will the signalling start to be replaced?
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Post by up1989 on Sept 7, 2016 16:36:16 GMT
I've heard there aren't many if at all any points on the running line so it is relatively simple line, but it is unnerving as many other metro and tocs in the uk will think about uto, especially with the ntfl.
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Post by up1989 on Sept 7, 2016 16:34:04 GMT
Lots of track at Golders Green has been painted white I asked my io at the time and they didn't know why it's been painted white. I quite like the look of it!
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Post by up1989 on Jul 10, 2016 14:31:12 GMT
Can a Train in CM/Auto pass a station starter signal at danger? I know In the seltrac system on the northen line you can't proceed in PM/AUTO until your target advances, does anyone know if its the same for central line?
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Post by up1989 on Jul 2, 2016 22:15:21 GMT
That is true, I suppose we will always be chasing capacity on the underground. This is the problem of having the most populous city in the uk. I do worry with over crowding especially coming into clapham common and clapham north with the island platforms. I can see stations like that being closed more often the more crowded London gets.
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Post by up1989 on Jul 2, 2016 15:21:39 GMT
That is true, I just find it crazy that london keeps on tunnelling when there are other options, but I'm not a city planner. It would be nice to see a tram back on londons streets.
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Post by up1989 on Jul 2, 2016 13:11:39 GMT
I could imagine a Charing x to St. Paul's via aldwych west east & Waterloo to Camden via aldwych and Euston could be done as the roads are wide. It would alleviate some of the cross town strain. I would make sense as a tram way as the old tram tunnel at kingsway could be used, plus most of the roads have bus lanes. (Waterloo Bridge, strand, kingsway/Southampton way, Woburn & upper Woburn place.) i highly doubt it would would happen but it would save on a lot of congestion. (I was a cab driver for a number of years and those were some of the pinch points I dreaded.)
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