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Post by slugabed on Jun 19, 2022 10:59:15 GMT
It looks like the preparatory work just north of Meridian Water is finally gong to be put to use,then. Effectively an extension of the bi-directional line from south of Tottenham Hale to meridian Water on the site of the old Goods Lines,ths would make a lot of sense,freeing the through lines from stopping services,allowing a better service for both.
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Post by slugabed on Dec 1, 2021 19:46:41 GMT
It's interesting that the article linked in the OP mentions four lines. Spreading maximum fear, uncertainty, and doubt, but also indicating that perhaps this hasn't been seriously considered except in the most vague and general way. I suggest that's the whole intent of it. That's why it just says "line" and not specific, almost certainly no serious work can have gone into it. "What's our deficit?" "X" "What's our budget?" "Y" "How many tube lines do we have?" "Z" "So X=Y/Z?" "More or less...shall I draught a press release?"
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Post by slugabed on Nov 11, 2021 16:19:09 GMT
Isn't the fact that using a stick is "normal" an indictment of the ergonomic design of the controls...which is,in itself,a safety issue...?
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Post by slugabed on Oct 13, 2021 11:22:03 GMT
While glad that no-one was seriously hurt,I worry that this will lead to the removal of the engine-escape crossover,which has miraculously survived at this location.
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Post by slugabed on Oct 11, 2021 22:57:00 GMT
Terminators at Platform 17 are,in normal circumstances,Southern Workings,effectively short workings of the Services from the WCML on to the Brighton Line.
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Post by slugabed on Oct 8, 2021 2:50:22 GMT
Not fog but dust. I've seen it like that on the Victoria Line.
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Post by slugabed on Sept 20, 2021 21:53:44 GMT
On my way there, I was slightly confused at Kennington - to work out what platform and train to catch, but that might just be me! The indicators at Kennington today were sub-optimal. Terminators were described as "Out of Service" and Battersea trains as "Check front of train"
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Post by slugabed on Sept 18, 2021 9:54:21 GMT
Extension to Clapham Junction has been mooted many times,for obvious geographical reasons. The reason it hasn't advanced is money...both to pay for the extension itself,but also the work necessary at Clapham Jct and to ameliorate the consequent crowding on the Northern Line..it is thought such an extension would be a victim of its own success.
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Post by slugabed on Sept 16, 2021 23:13:23 GMT
"Yet, the line diagrams still refer to through services to Morden during the peak... not that I think this should be a thing, as most regular users are used to changing at Kennington, so I don't see what good a few through trains every now and then will do... surely the benefit cannot outweigh inevitable confusion to tourists and the like as they try to get their head around the complexity of the Northern line?!"
Wasn't the reason for these trains given as balancing between depots?
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Post by slugabed on Aug 16, 2021 21:32:57 GMT
Well worth having. I've seen it on-line for not enormous amounts of money.
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Post by slugabed on Aug 10, 2021 11:05:49 GMT
As of last week,the Leslie Green building on Cardington St was still standing. That's not to say it is in any way safe.
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Post by slugabed on Aug 2, 2021 11:28:11 GMT
Wasn't the DLR built under a Light Railway Order? It was certainly discussed at the time (mid 80s).
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Post by slugabed on Jul 28, 2021 22:18:37 GMT
Alas I think the "ramps" at Drayton Park were only built to tube gauge, but in a parallel universe... The S/B ramp is currently used by full-sized stock with OHLE,so they were probably built to surface gauge.
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Post by slugabed on Jul 28, 2021 9:09:28 GMT
Follenfant's book,"Reconstructing London's Underground" (full of interesting stuff,though long out of print) says that he regrets not having built the Heathrow Extension to Surface Gauge,but he couldn't justify the extra cost and technical complexity to the bean-counters,as it was,by then,only going to be served by Piccadilly Line tube stock.
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Post by slugabed on Jul 22, 2021 20:18:16 GMT
I went on an LURS visit about 1982 or 3...we visited out-of-hours (mid-day),saw both platforms at both ends,walked the track and tunnels from end to end,and inspected the tunnel plug at the south end for signs of a tunnel towards Waterloo (inconclusive). The disused platform at Aldwych was kitted out as a full-size prototype mock-up for the then imminent Tottenham Court Road refurbishment. The Eastern Tunnel north from Aldwych was used as a store for all sorts of rail-related stuff,but had been unused for so long that my face was brushed by fragile stalagtites full of water hanging from the tunnel roof.
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Post by slugabed on Jun 14, 2021 16:45:31 GMT
Looking back through old OS maps show it as "there" from at least the pre-war period onwards,but no indication of its function. Certainly odd as on the one side there appears to be a substantial earthen ramp,on the other access to the service alley behind the houses in Cavendish Ave. I suspect an accommodation bridge of some sort? Whose real function disappeared when the farmland was built over? maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=51.55762&lon=-0.34125&layers=173&right=BingHyb
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Post by slugabed on Jun 4, 2021 9:18:40 GMT
I remember using the Victoria Line form Victoria occasionally pretty-much from day one and it was always very busy. It is and was a popular line. The whole story sounded a load of duff notes for me,so I think it's just a work of fantasy. Has he got a book about to be published?
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Post by slugabed on Apr 8, 2021 21:19:26 GMT
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Post by slugabed on Apr 7, 2021 23:32:31 GMT
Thank you for the fulsome answer,North End....that explains an awful lot.
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Post by slugabed on Apr 7, 2021 22:24:12 GMT
"From a civil engineering point or view the most interesting lines are (IMO) the Northern, Jubilee and Victoria. The Vic is a lot more interesting than its simple route on the Tube Map might initially suggest!" (North End)
Yes indeed...My understanding is that various sections were built using different tunnelling methods by way of comparison. I have also heard,which may be an urban myth,or a misunderstanding of the above,that the Vic incorporated some earlier,pre-existing tunnels in its construction...no truth in that? Surely?
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Post by slugabed on Jan 28, 2021 19:27:58 GMT
This reminds me of a post made by a well-connected member of either this board or Another Place who told of a conversation he'd had with (I think) Treasury economists who put forward the idea that the first passenger on any bus should be charged,say,£20,with subsequent passengers being charged only the marginal extra cost that carrying them incurs....until it was pointed out to them that the buses would then run around empty all day...
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Post by slugabed on Jan 27, 2021 13:15:14 GMT
In the days of hand-worked doors on the District (as late as the 50s,I think,according to my dad) the saloon doors were opened by passengers on hot days. People had to be their own Safety Elves in those days.
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Post by slugabed on Jan 7, 2021 16:59:25 GMT
It may be worth tracking down a copy of Jim Blake's "Northern Wastes" book which goes into some detail on the plans for the New Works Programme. I beleive there are copies on some on-line sites (but not Am...n at £37.00!!!!)or from Jim direct. Thank you Ted672....I've ordered a copy from Jim Blake.
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Post by slugabed on Jan 4, 2021 22:31:43 GMT
Jimbo...thank you for that. I recently helped a relative with a local history project attempting to untangle the history of the section between Drayton Park and Finsbury Park,upper AND lower levels,and what was still visible on the surface. This was no easy task. I managed to find the route of the S/B New Works Programme connection,but not the N/B.This thread has helped me progress. Does anyone have a map/diagram of the proposed and/or completed NWP scheme for this area?? Or,indeed,the mid-70s scheme which was finally completed??
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Post by slugabed on Jan 2, 2021 18:32:33 GMT
That's a pretty broad question...what sort of things are you looking for? The history of White City station per se isn't that long,and isn't that interesting....but the wider history of the Underground's involvement in the area is complex and fascinating...
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Post by slugabed on Dec 24, 2020 18:09:11 GMT
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Post by slugabed on Dec 16, 2020 19:59:22 GMT
Lift enthusiasts (there are such among us) are said to refer to lifts as "Vertical Trams"...so two of the originals have been preserved,but they should be regarded as static exhibits...
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Post by slugabed on Dec 14, 2020 18:06:28 GMT
They all had attendant-operated lifts...automatic lifts are fairly recent (post-war?) I remember Goodge St having attendant-operated lifts until at least the late 70s.
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Post by slugabed on Dec 12, 2020 21:49:37 GMT
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Post by slugabed on Dec 12, 2020 21:47:01 GMT
Claremont Rd was a loop off of Grove Green Rd. There were terraced houses on one side,and I recall a chain-link fence at the top of the embankment down to the railway on the other (think Harecourt Rd in Highbury,but with smaller houses). I seem to remember a footbridge in the area,but looking at old maps,I think this may have been the northern end of Langthorne Rd.
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