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Post by countryman on Mar 11, 2020 22:05:30 GMT
I was on one of the stopping services in the Eltham area a while ago, and the DVA was one station out (can't remember if it was one late or one early), but it was in the right direction.
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Post by countryman on Mar 10, 2020 8:29:37 GMT
Copied from the pdf section on Bakerloo 1972 stock.
'Formation per unit: Four cars, formed DM – T – T – DM*, and three cars formed UNDM – T - DM Formation per train: Eight cars, formed DM – T – T – DM + UNDM – T – DM* 8 one train is formed of DM – T – T – UNDM – UNDM – T- DM'
Unfortunately there is an error in that they seem to think these ran as 8 car trains.
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Post by countryman on Mar 4, 2020 12:03:54 GMT
North Acton got a third platform in 1992, creating a new eastbound platform (3) and turning the old eastbound platform (2) into a reverser. I was aware of the change, but not when it was actually done. How frequently are trains actually reversed there? Are any timetabled, or just to recover service?
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Post by countryman on Mar 4, 2020 9:02:53 GMT
is there station capacity at White City or North Acton to cope with more reversers? Presumably one reason for choosing to cull some Eppings in WTT70 was that such capacity, with stepping forward, existed at Loughton, whereas stations like Newbury Park or Debden need more complex moves and thus more time? The result is that there is an over-lavish service offered between Newbury Park and Hainault. There is also Northolt. As a matter of interest, how many trains reverse at North Acton? It is a 'new' facility to me, as I used to travel through almost daily in the late 60s.
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Post by countryman on Mar 3, 2020 10:16:14 GMT
Not sure this is the right place, please move and retitle if necessary. <Rincew1nd: Retitled, but in the right place, for now at least>Just found this article on 'toxic train dust' on BBC news. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51712200
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Post by countryman on Feb 26, 2020 16:12:44 GMT
Could someone please enlighten me as to what .46 and .42 are. I would guess it is the destination display software version.
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Post by countryman on Feb 26, 2020 8:39:15 GMT
For those interested in Power Generation, visit Gridwatch. Shows daily, weekly &c power usage in the UK by energy type, and what we get from/supply to European mainland.
What amazes me is how much electricity is consumed in the small hours.
If the Frequency is high, that means too much electricity is being generated, and vice-versa. economy 7 meters encourage nightime power use, even of things like dishwashers and clothes washing machines also, battery electric cars and buses are more likely to be charged up over night Not sure I would want to run a washing machine overnight, especially a Whirlpool or Indesit. Besides, ours is too noisy.
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Post by countryman on Feb 19, 2020 13:04:30 GMT
Driving of freight trains is an art in itself. Unless it's something you've actually done, I don't feel you're qualified to comment on that. Very true. Knowing how many brakes to pin down, in all kinds of weather, on half-a-dozen different banks... Surely this isn't done nowadays. It used to be done on loose coupled unbraked freights; pretty sure it was unnecessary with a part-fitted freight, depending on the size of the fitted head.
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Post by countryman on Feb 16, 2020 16:28:00 GMT
Current rail stamped 1903 ? Wasn’t the line worked by steam trains until 1905 . Date the rail was made, not when it was installed or first used.
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Post by countryman on Feb 16, 2020 9:08:23 GMT
Are Heathrow Terminal 4 trains not terminating at Boston Manor and then reversing into the depot? The access to the depot is between Osterley and Boston Manor. So trains terminate at Osterley and run into the depot. To reverse into the depot, wouldn't the destination be Northfields?
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Post by countryman on Feb 9, 2020 10:21:41 GMT
It appears that Mill Hill East is the only station that has and has only had one platform.
Chesham has only one platform, but appears to originally had two, the current platform originally being platform 2.
Olympia only has one LU platform, but another two used by Overground.
Similarly Heathrow Terminal 4 has one LU platform, but two TFL platforms.
So the answer to the OP depends on the definition of one platform.
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Post by countryman on Feb 8, 2020 15:13:40 GMT
That photo is almost certainly a milk train (empties) from United Dairies Wood Lane depot, which was just north of White City station. These trains travelled via the Greenford East chord then via Castlebar Park. I think this once regular service ended around 1960 Certainly finished by 1960. You could see the line from our back garden in Perivale, and I never saw a milk train. In fact, other than the Birmingham epresses hauled by Kings until 1962, the only other steam engine I remember seeing was an immaculate 43xx stopped at a signal on the Greenford East chord.
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Post by countryman on Feb 8, 2020 8:51:11 GMT
Alimia?
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Post by countryman on Feb 7, 2020 10:31:03 GMT
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Post by countryman on Feb 3, 2020 14:04:43 GMT
TfL's handling of replacement bus services is an absolute disgrace. To give just one example of an incident I witnessed a while back: The HC&C was having one of its unscheduled shutdowns, and a replacement bus was provided from Hammersmith towards Paddington. I was on such as bus, as was an old man using calipers. (Yes, he got a seat.) As the bus approached Wood lane, instead of following, as near as possible, the route of the HC&C, it veered off towards Shepherd's bush Central line. Of course, the man with the calipers wanted to get off, but, even though the bus was frequently stopping for traffic, the driver would not open the doors. Other passengers began to remonstrate with him but he remained obdurate. Now, it's probably not his fault as there's bound to be some 'elf and safety rule (although drivers do, frequently, let people off between stops if asked.) So this poor chap was dragged way off course (As no doubt were many other passengers.) Apart from TfL's inability to run a bus vaguely along the route of the train, at least if they'd actually stated where the bus was going, passengers for Shepherds Bush (and Wood lLne) could have caught a more appropriate bus. To be fair, there is no decent route from Shepherd's Bush Green to Latimer Road via Wood Lane, so the route used is likely to be the closest that you can get to the H & C. There does seem to be a need for people wishing to go to Wood Green to be informed. It would also be useful if the buses stopped at Shepherd's Bush Central Line to give more options. There is a perfectly good 220 direct from Hammersmith to Wood Lane for those who need it, but the issue is whether passengers who had paid for the Underground would need to pay the bus fare.
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Post by countryman on Feb 2, 2020 16:34:10 GMT
I thought it was East Acton as the trains looked like Central Line trains - small trains which were blue, red and white, out of the left-hand window on the approach to Ealing Broadway, separate from the GWR line I was on. I actually thought it was North Acton at first but looking at the map, that would have been on the other side of the train. But if AML uses trains like this and the GWR has tracks that bypass AML, that would explain it. East Acton would indeed be on the left of a westbound train on the GW main line, but it is quarter of a mile away, on the other side of Wormwood Scrubs Common. About half way between East Acton and North Acton stations, the Central Line passes approximately at right angles under the main line, and you might get a glimpse of it from the main line just after passing the depots on both sides of the line (Old Oak Common and North Pole). Of course it reappears, but on the right hand (north) side of the main line, on the approach to Ealing Broadway. The local Great Western tracks, on which Acton Main Line stands, come shortly before this, also on the north side of the fast lines. These now use (purple) TfL Rail trains, but if you are talking about ten years ago, all services were still run by Great Western. GWR and TfL both use full size (not Tube) trains, and have never been red white and blue. The only places you might have seen red, white and blue trains running alongside the Great Western Mail Line, on the left as you leave Paddington, are on the approach to Westbourne Park (Hammersmith & City Line), and the approach to Reading (SWT's Class 458s in their original livery). However, if you were on one of the extremely rare (and now discontinued) trains used the "New North Line" to High Wycombe and beyond, which left the main line at Old Oak Common, you would have seen the Central Line on your left all the way from North Acton to West Ruislip. However, you would not then have passed Ealing Broadway It would have been an unusual way to go to Cardiff, although not unheard of as, until the line was severed for HS2 work, trains to the west have sometimes been diverted that way, either rejoining the main line via the Greenford branch, or by reversal at Banbury. You would also see them to the east of Ealing Broadway. The station referred to may be West Acton. East Acton and North Acton are alongside the ex GWR White City line which served the milk depot. It was closed by the time I used to travel to school. The trackbed is still there but is now so overgrown you would hardly know the railway ever existed. Part of the trackbed was taken over by the Central Line when North Acton was converted from a simple 2 platform station to the current arrangement where the centre of 3 tracks is the old eastbound main track.
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Post by countryman on Jan 30, 2020 22:08:13 GMT
Surprised that many more freight liner trains do not have derailment problems when you see long strings of unladen flats between loaded ones and very often flats with a container on one end only placed in the middle of unloaded units. If you think that may be an issue, try watching the youtube videos of American freight trains. Many unloaded flats in the middle of huge 200 wagon trains on very badly maintained track, and generally they do OK
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Post by countryman on Jan 28, 2020 13:35:03 GMT
WTT70 already saves 2x 8-car on WTT69 and keeping the shuttle as 8-car. Quite. The refurb scheme called for release of 3 trains, and without 4 car shuttles, they get 2. So does that mean the time taken will be a third longer? No, 50% longer.
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Post by countryman on Jan 19, 2020 13:12:59 GMT
Waterloo-Bank platform 7 = 4.25 minutes 4.25 minutes = 255 seconds, so the journey time is 17 seconds longer than the timeout. That sounds a little long for a rounding difference, but it's not impossible that it's the maximum time no part of the train (or just the leading cab?) will be adjacent to a platform? Could be 4 minutes 25 seconds = 265 seconds. May be trivial, but cuts it down to 7 seconds.
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Post by countryman on Jan 14, 2020 11:37:55 GMT
And to tie up, yes, you can couple any combination of units together in any order, the only real life constraint being that A cars must be on the outer ends. If I get some time later I’ll try and put together all the possibilities. Thanks, that was the clarification I was after.
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Post by countryman on Jan 14, 2020 9:07:35 GMT
I.ve been following this thread for some time and I feel more confused than ever. Let me see if I have this straight. I get that there are A, B and C cars. The A cars are the ones with cabs, and are semi-permanently coupled to a B car. The C cars have shunt controls.
So, for an eight car train you have an A-B pair at each end. In the middle you normally have 2 B-C units with the C ends coupled together at the centre of the train. But theoretically you could have any combination of A-B and A-C units facing either direction. On some trains the C car is replaced by a D car fitted with a deicer unit. This would normally be the 4th or 5th car, depending on the direction of travel, although theoretically it could be the 3rd or 6th. It would be controlled by the leading A car.
If this is all true, then it is simple even for me to understand why you cannot have a 4 car deicer train as things stand.
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Post by countryman on Jan 13, 2020 14:13:10 GMT
Not knowing the specifics of the 1992 stock is it possible to swap the deicing car from a B-D unit with the B car in the A-B units with some wiring modifications? So, to clarify, the deicing equipment is housed on the B-C car, and is operated from the leading A car? I assume one set per 8 car train. Is the deicing gear designed to remove ice from the conductor rails, or to prevent ice forming? When I was travelling to and from school in the 60s, I remember that, at East Acton just off the west end of the eastbound platform there was some kind of box in the outer conductor which seemed to have fluid in it which was applied to the pickups via a small roller. Was that some kind of deicer unit, and if so, are they still in use?
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Post by countryman on Jan 8, 2020 15:34:13 GMT
After viewing the video of Last Train to Redbridge, I was overcome by a wave of nostalgia. I found the whole set of 28 episodes available on DVD, and luckily Father Christmas was listening, and the set turned up on Christmas day. I was watching the Last Train to Redbridge episode today, and I was surprise to recognise some of the scenes from the 1960, 1970s video above. It would appear that the 60's, 70's video may have been filmed for Department S episode, although not all of the footage was used. For instance, the shot of the train arriving at the depot at the start of the 60s video shows an 8 car train arriving, then pans to give a view of the depot. In the department S video, the same train arrives, but you only see the first 2 cars, then later you see the end of the shot,
Again of minor interest, the footage at Aldwych is of car 1751, the highest number 62 stock DM, the train entering the depot is headed by 1400, the lowest number 62 stock DM.
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Post by countryman on Jan 5, 2020 16:26:14 GMT
For clarity (for me) the slow line is closed at Harrow, so all trains are running on the fast line. There are trains from Baker Street to Amersham, Chesham and Uxbridge, presumably unable to stop at North Harrow, Pinner, Northwood Hills and Northwood, then there is the Chalfont-Watford-Northwood Hills service which is unable to reverse further south. All lines closed at Harrow Thanks, all clear now!
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Post by countryman on Jan 5, 2020 8:56:58 GMT
For clarity (for me) the slow line is closed at Harrow, so all trains are running on the fast line. There are trains from Baker Street to Amersham, Chesham and Uxbridge, presumably unable to stop at North Harrow, Pinner, Northwood Hills and Northwood, then there is the Chalfont-Watford-Northwood Hills service which is unable to reverse further south.
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Post by countryman on Jan 3, 2020 14:36:28 GMT
And the District used to go to Sarfend! Although there were through trains from Ealing Broadway powered by District locomotives, weren't these essentially LTSR trains?
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Post by countryman on Jan 2, 2020 16:59:13 GMT
I get page not available.
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Post by countryman on Dec 30, 2019 9:35:29 GMT
A fascinating film that brought back memories. A couple of things stand out t me. I used the Central line in the late 60s to go to school. I remember the seat velour to be red on the 62 stock on the Central; were they blue on the 59 stock on the Piccadilly?
The train in the scenes with the guard has cars with numbers 2750 and 1751. This indicates that the train is the special 3 car 62 stock unit used on the Piccadilly, and would suggest that the footage was taken at Aldwych. If you look carefully at 5:40 it appears to be fitted with line diagrams for the Central and Piccadilly lines.
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Post by countryman on Dec 30, 2019 9:14:00 GMT
Unfortunately in that respect they are a retrograde step from the previous D Stock, in that NO action was required if the rear trip was operated and no slow-speed operation was necessary. Progress ? I have a feeling it was 1972TS when someone decided there was no point in stopping a rear-tripped train, so a trip was only effective at the front of the train. It was only when rules for working defective trains were being written that it was realised that if the front cab controller jammed, the driver had to work from the rear cab with the guard riding up front without a tripcock for protection! A second person had to be obtained for extra protection. Rear trips again had to become effective on subsequent trains! A though has just crossed my mind. I seem to recall that the tripcocks are all on one side of the track. If this is so, then I understand how a front tripcock is tripped, but the tripcock at the rear would be on the wrong side. How would the rear be tripped? I can only think of some kind of lineside obstruction.
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Post by countryman on Dec 26, 2019 12:46:36 GMT
When the SPAD is investigated, the driver could potentially say that they are feeling fatigued as they haven't had a proper PNB. Therefore, the Union will claim the WTT is causing drivers to be disciplined for incidents where the root cause is the timetable / adequate planning The question marks were for the acronym PNB, with which I am certainly not familiar.
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