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Post by londoner on Jan 7, 2022 22:38:31 GMT
The metallic(?) doors to the lift are installed at Harrow on the slow northbound platforms, but I had no time to take a picture.
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Post by londoner on Jan 7, 2022 22:32:28 GMT
Many years ago I used to live in Wembley when I was a boy. I was not a regular commuter but I used to prefer the old silverlink trains, simply because taking a train was a "different experience" in my young mind than taking the "bog standard" tube. We (my mother and siblings) always got off at Queen's Park to continue our journeys. It was only much later when I returned to Wembley and started travelling on my own that I used to venture into Euston!
I did use the old Wembley Central station once to take a Southern train to Kensington. I remember the extremely narrow steps down to the platform from inside the foyer. At the time there was a foyer/ passageway outside the main tube station which provided access to the mainline platforms. Now of course it is integrated within the tube station and although access is blocked off when no trains are due, the stairs were upgraded.
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Post by londoner on Dec 29, 2021 15:35:27 GMT
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Post by londoner on Nov 30, 2021 20:19:32 GMT
Even if certain lines are busier than others, surely by closing an entire line it would just add additional loadings onto other lines which in turn may make them less reliable?
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Post by londoner on Nov 19, 2021 10:10:58 GMT
I lost my Oyster card a few days ago. Got a new one and stopped the old one after ringing TFL (which by the way was only a 20 minute call and the lady was very helpful). For reference, a new Oyster card can be issued from a ticket machine in the tube station and requires minimum of £5 deposit.
I did forget to ask two questions:
1) If the lost Oyster card is handed in by a stranger, is it returned to me? 2) How long do I have to transfer credit between the stopped card and the new replacement card? Transferring credit requires actually making a journey and I do not plan to use the network for several more weeks.
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Post by londoner on Nov 2, 2021 11:40:07 GMT
Harrow & Wealdstone
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Post by londoner on Sept 28, 2021 10:45:24 GMT
From what I can tell by browsing through the archives, the following combined rail and tube maps have existed since ~2002:
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2002-10 - London Connections 2003-05 - London Connections 2004-01 - London Connections 2004-02 - High-frequency National Rail services in south London 2004-12 - High-frequency National Rail services in south London 2005-01 - London Connections 2005-05 - London Connections 2006-01 - London Connections 2006-06 - London Connections 2006-09 - London Connections 2007-01 - London Connections 2007-01 - High Frequency Services 2007-11 - Travelcard Zones 2007-11 - High Frequency Services 2008-01 - High Frequency Services 2008-01 - Travelcard Zones 2008-03 - High Frequency Services 2008-03 - Travelcard Zones 2008-06 - High Frequency Services 2008-06 - Travelcard Zones 2008-10 - Travelcard Zones 2009-01 - High Frequency Services 2009-01 - Travelcard Zones 2009-03 - Travelcard Zones 2009-09 - High Frequency Services 2009-09 - Travelcard Zones 2010-01 - Oyster rail services in London 2010-05 - Oyster rail services in London 2011-03 - Oyster rail services in London 2011-04 - Oyster rail services in London 2011-08 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2012-02 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2012-06 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2012-12 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2013-05 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2013-12 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2014-05 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2014-12 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2015-05 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2015-08 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2016-01 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2016-05 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2016-12 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2017-05 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2017-12 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2018-05 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2018-12 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2019-02 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2019-04 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2019-05 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2019-08 - London’s Rail & Tube services 2019-12 - London’s Rail & Tube services
Other: 2018-05-20 - Oyster PAYG 2018-11-22 - Oyster PAYG 2019-05-19 - Oyster PAYG 2019-10-22 - Oyster PAYG
2003-04-dd - DLR Rail Connections 2005-11-03 - DLR Rail Connections 2007-11-22 - DLR Rail Connections 2009-01-07 - DLR Rail Connections 2009-12-07 - DLR Rail Connections 2010-10-15 - DLR Rail Connections 2011-07-21 - DLR Rail Connections 2012-10-30 - DLR Rail Connections
Please note that these were maps I was able to locate (up until about 2020) and not necessarily a complete list of maps made public.
The London Connections and Travelcard Zones map are essentially the same. From a quick skim through of these two particular maps, only the map dated 2002-10 was explicitly named "London Connections".
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Post by londoner on Sept 23, 2021 11:19:29 GMT
I'm a little confused, here. What are you finding hard to read because the background appears nearly white? The only thing that I can see that could be worse with a lighter background are the actual zone numbers. It would probably be better to get rid of the zones from the diagram altogether, and have a list of stations/zones by paper ticket issuing machines. - The contrast ratio between the light grey coloured zones and the white coloured zones.
- The text which indicates the zone numbers (either light grey text on white background or white text on a light grey background).
With the poor contrast ratio for both these items, the digital form of the map looks like it has a completely white background.
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Post by londoner on Sept 23, 2021 10:56:29 GMT
The diagram, as shown above, would be immeasurably improved, simply by toning down the grey of the fare zones. I have tried this. It looks much better, even with the added clutter. I imagine there is probably some middle ground here, with toning it to improve the contrast but perhaps not going too far (as some have already suggested here) to distract from the more important elements of the map. Note that the digital form of the map already has a poor contrast ratio. When I view the background with my problematic eye it looks almost white. If TFL designed the rest of their website like this, it would probably fail some of the web content accessibility standards. The following tool can be used to give some indication of what is a good contrast ratio and what is not a good ratio: webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/
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Post by londoner on Sept 23, 2021 8:56:21 GMT
What is the meaning of the phrase on the front cover?
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Post by londoner on Sept 16, 2021 11:45:48 GMT
It happened yesterday afternoon for a train listed as "not in service" but unlike the experiences above, it did not seem to slow down by much.
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Post by londoner on Jul 30, 2021 16:15:59 GMT
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Post by londoner on Jul 18, 2021 8:56:46 GMT
Kenton
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Post by londoner on Jun 5, 2021 17:35:24 GMT
What is the service pattern going to be on Monday?
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Post by londoner on Apr 9, 2021 11:22:36 GMT
Location D - Harrow on the Hill
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Post by londoner on Apr 5, 2021 15:07:18 GMT
For anyone interested, there is a graph in the following video talk from a current employee at TFL (at 17:30) which shows how passenger numbers have changed during the pandemic for both underground and buses:
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Post by londoner on Mar 19, 2021 19:41:26 GMT
Why? What benefit does this have to someone planning a journey? Unless of course you're going to use the additional space to include full (ie which platforms are step free, which station entrances are etc...) details of accessibility. I just meant that I would personally like to see that because I am a great admirer of the simple LU diagrams that HB produced. So just for aesthetic reasons, really, as a sort of cover decoration for the 'real' diagram. I still have that map that a member produced a few years ago with just LU and DLR as my desktop background. Sad but true. I removed all the elements in Inkscape. Here you go: filebin.net/yh2sgtkiqt7vopa3
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Post by londoner on Mar 17, 2021 17:07:07 GMT
From my experiences where Oyster is valid: Station names: Shepherd's Bush > Bush Kensington High Street > High Street Ken Kensington (Olympia) > Olympia South Kensington > South Ken King's Cross St. Pancras > King's Cross Harrow-on-the-Hill > Harrow Wembley Park > Wembley (typically commuters asking if a train stops at Wembley)
Train station names: West Hampstead Thameslink > West Hampstead Gatwick Airport > Gatwick Automated or staff voice on train or platform says London XYZ but most locals would just say XYZ. e.g.: London Marylebone > Marylebone London Paddington > Paddington London Euston > Euston
London Marylebone announcement:
Paddington announcement:
Euston announcement:
Line names: (the) Metropolitan Line > (the) Met (the) London Overground > (the) Overground (the) Docklands Light Railway > (the) DLR Chiltern Railways > Chiltern train
I also always call the Met, Circle and H&C line "The SSR" when travelling in central London.
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Post by londoner on Mar 17, 2021 16:32:08 GMT
On "actual" mispronuciations though, Marylebone is a good shout. I could have sworn during one point in my life I heard it stated differently on both a Bakerloo Line and a Chiltern train by the on board automated announcements but I may be mistaken.
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Post by londoner on Feb 20, 2021 20:49:31 GMT
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Post by londoner on Feb 11, 2021 0:31:01 GMT
Wonderful news.
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Post by londoner on Feb 2, 2021 16:14:52 GMT
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Post by londoner on Feb 2, 2021 15:27:28 GMT
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Post by londoner on Jan 27, 2021 17:20:37 GMT
The correct answer is 1.21 Gigawatts.
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Post by londoner on Dec 29, 2020 16:08:23 GMT
Are there any updates as to when we will be able to use cash to top up our Oyster cards at stations again?
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Post by londoner on Dec 21, 2020 8:08:47 GMT
PPS: Dear All, And a Happy New Year: All the LO Route Maps dated accordingly that I found: filebin.net/2sxjp8h7siq1gghvAll DLR Connections Maps dated accordingly that I found: filebin.net/pij4q827gl1s9dszAll DLR Maps that I've tried to date that I found: filebin.net/hh2enafo9di5m84zAll Large Colour Maps dated accordingly that I found: filebin.net/rzrhdju23a5irlc6All TfL Rail Maps dated accordingly that I found: filebin.net/ldmsnuss2ie4rrsvRegards, Londoner I believe that completes your collection as best as possible. There are other maps including high frequency services, toilet guides, bicycles maps which I've omitted because they don't appear on your list, but just let me know and I'll upload them too. I've gone through numerous archival links over many weeks, so is unlikely I've missed any, although I cannot be sure. Everything is an official document unless stated otherwise. Hopefully all these maps prove to be useful for everyone, both for enjoyment and as a historical archive.
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Post by londoner on Dec 21, 2020 7:47:23 GMT
PS: I cannot verify these because they were obtained from an old personal website but I assume they are official: Line Management Maps (2002-08): filebin.net/hatqw6i9q4nwhiot
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Post by londoner on Dec 21, 2020 7:40:54 GMT
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Post by londoner on Dec 18, 2020 11:52:58 GMT
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Post by londoner on Dec 17, 2020 6:55:54 GMT
Mistakes: - In the "check before you travel" section, one full stop is missing at the end of the sentence for Heathrow Terminal 4. Comments about the new map: I am very bit surprised by the unnecessary length of the interchange symbol at Blackfriars. Since the station has an exit on both sides of the river, they could have reduced the length of the interchange by showing instead a connection to the northern most entrance. This would place the icon north of the river and actually better reflect where the entrance to the tube station is as well (northern exit). I am also surprised they chose to include parts of Thameslink which do not have a "turn up and go" frequency. I would have thought that simply adding what was previously on the map would have been sufficient. Interestingly, Catford has a rail symbol, even though it is an interchange with another station, Catford Bridge. The interchange at Sudbury Hill with Sudbury Hill Harrow is omitted but Sudbury Hill has no rail symbol. A quick glance at an earlier timetable suggests all Thameslink services call at this station and the next northbound and southbound ones so I don't believe there are faster services available from here: www.thameslinkrailway.com/timetables?stationid=2376c7efed614b12a90a259398f2fc49Also interestingly, Bellingham lacks a rail symbol, despite faster services sometimes available from this station. This is in comparison to Edmonton Green and Seven Sisters which do have a rail symbol presumably to reflect that faster services are available here. Recurring comments: The colour for the "Oyster not valid" is very poor. It is not easily visible on the online map so people with visual impairments will struggle greatly to distinguish it. There is still no indication that travelling to Heathrow via TfL rail is much more expensive. There is no indication about what the different river boat symbols mean. I am not sure where I would go to find out either. Based on the rail symbol stuff above, I have wondered what the frequency requirement is to have a railway symbol because Chorleywood does not have one but has two southbound trains in the peaks which do not call at Rickmansworth (0738 and 0845 weekdays): www.chilternrailways.co.uk/sites/default/files/MONDAY-FRIDAY-Interim-Timetable-London-Amersham-Aylesbury-V4_23.pdfAn earlier timetable, the 0739 and 0846 train weekdays: www.chilternrailways.co.uk/sites/default/files/CR1912_DL_BOOK_COMPILED_WEB.pdfWest Brompton has a rail symbol, even though all Southern northbound and southbound trains from here appear to call at Shepherd's Bush and Imperial Wharf: www.southernrailway.com/-/media/goahead/gtr-all-timetables/coronavirus-timetables-from-7-september-2020/q-v2.pdf?la=en
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