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Post by fish7373 on Oct 11, 2022 0:11:10 GMT
The motor cars are the ones that were never converted to ATO(3910/11)believe the TRC is a 73 TS trailer,think it comes from the unit that caught fire at Bounds Green. Hi not from bounds green fire still in passenger service TRC 666 converted from 1973 stock trailer car 514
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Post by fish7373 on Sept 28, 2022 16:52:00 GMT
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Post by fish7373 on Apr 3, 2022 23:06:22 GMT
The traction motors are AC with a gear box AndrewPSSP
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Post by fish7373 on Apr 1, 2022 16:48:19 GMT
Hi i have seen all the plans for the new 24 stock and the The bogies to the present type on the underground is totally different design Which is WOW No wonder they want to build a new depot and why knocking down Northfields Depot One thing on the Bogies the frames will be inside the wheel sets.
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Post by fish7373 on Mar 21, 2022 22:22:58 GMT
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 17, 2022 16:19:03 GMT
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 12, 2022 15:42:39 GMT
On the Piccadilly line, life extension work has been completed on 11 trains, door overhauls and new flooring laid on 25 trains, traction equipment overhauled on 5 trains and new seating installed on 40 trains. The existing fleet is required to remain operational until 2027, so a programme lift cycle has commenced and 10 of the 59 units are complete, including fitment of new axles. (Source TfL Programmes and Investment Committee on 15 December 2021.) The old Piccadilly line trains perform as well as more modern trains, and better than the Jubilee line fleet. The mean distance between failures is really bad on the Bakerloo and Central lines, where a lot of work is being undertaken on the trains. C/F Depot don`t do programme lift at all it is life Extensions lift as you say and new axles where fitted a long time ago.
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Post by fish7373 on Dec 20, 2021 19:27:36 GMT
From a driver's point of view that looks ghastly Left handed Traction Brake Controller Doesn't appear to be much foot=room under the "desk" And it looks like you have to reach over the screens to get to the radio/PA If it is as bad as that photo looks I'd tell Siemens to go back and start again Where is this BTW? 1973 T/stock is Left handed Traction Brake Controller
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Post by fish7373 on Dec 18, 2021 17:27:38 GMT
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Post by fish7373 on Dec 10, 2021 18:48:13 GMT
So we would end up with a '1938/Standard' DM? No reason why you couldn't have high voltage cables between the cars. Just wouldn't be able to run in a tube tunnel like that There is high voltage cables between the cars on the underground Which run in tube tunnels
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 28, 2021 22:30:02 GMT
So we've done doors, what about the shoe beams? My pure guess would be the bogie without a beam was a trailer one, as it was presumed four motor bogies would be too powerful for a 2-car train? Had some one check and All bogies on a 483 have traction motors on them.
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 28, 2021 19:43:24 GMT
Only has 2 traction motors per motor cars the 38s LT PILOT 2 cars had 4 motors unless the motor car has been modified to run with one motor
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 23, 2021 19:24:53 GMT
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 16, 2021 22:42:46 GMT
Canteen gossip or platform end wibble, interpret the following how you like, but chatter I heard after conversion there are electromagnetic compatibilty issues. Technically possible to sort out but at excessive £,£££,£££.s.d. Do you mean to interfere with the signals to say
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 7, 2021 17:16:12 GMT
Hi the first mock-up of the under frame equipment on the motor car has been done and is at ilford depot
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Post by fish7373 on Aug 15, 2021 14:42:39 GMT
I find this hard to believe. The trains of that time had a cab no deeper than a broom cupboard. The driver's seat flapped down from the wall to leave room to get in. There was little room for the knees of taller men! Try the 38TS simulator in the museum! I say this because you couldn't just install the controller, but all the gubbins underneath that it connected with, and I don't think there was room for that. Also, on auto-trains of the time, it got little use except for slow-speed shunt moves, so would not have provided much experience. This was fortunate in a way, as the first combined traction/brake controller, it wasn't very good. The deadman feature wasn't built in, so a separate vigilance button had also to be held down. Then the handle had to be lifted rather than depressed before it could be turned, an unnatural movement for drivers. The version fitted to C69 and later trains was much improved. Also the 1967TS on the Victoria Line were the first to provide a decent sized cab, and later designs have grown further. You are right the cabs were small compared to what there is now but I'm sure it was a 1938TS that had a trial controller I think it was before the 1960TS and I think there is a photo in Piers Connor's book on 1938TS so it had already been done although not like the controllers found today on 1967/1972/1973 stocks. I seem to remember that the 1967TS had a mushroom shaped button like you say a vigilance button which had to be pressed down. Just had a look at the 1938TS book by Piers and on page 76 there is a photo. Hi is this the button in photo hosting.photobucket.com/images/p551/kevin_fisher5/Inked44033504075_d6218bdaab_h_LI.jpg
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Post by fish7373 on Jun 25, 2021 23:43:26 GMT
The AIT train has gone from Northfields and is in Kent being cut up the END I WOULD PUT UP PHOTOS BUT LONG WINDED TO DO ON THIS SITE SORRY
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Post by fish7373 on Jun 9, 2021 16:40:23 GMT
Hi today we moved the AIT in to 1 shed to remove spares for the Backerloo line
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Post by fish7373 on Jun 2, 2021 19:38:05 GMT
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Post by fish7373 on Jun 2, 2021 17:22:28 GMT
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Post by fish7373 on May 30, 2021 17:35:57 GMT
The Met made good use of Westinghouse traction equipment, as well as brakes. When putting his bills though Parliament, Yerkes was often at pains to point out, under cross-examination, that despite himself being an American, the UERL Group would source contracts for equipment (signalling, rolling stock etc.) through British suppliers wherever practically possible. IIRC he came under fire for the Gate stock being built in the US, France and Hungary. We had one fitted with Westinghouse traction equipment and didn't catch on to to say
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Post by fish7373 on May 25, 2021 22:26:34 GMT
Response to Freedom of Information request published 8 July 2020 says the 1972 tube stock train stored on the Aldwych branch is driven once or twice every three months between Holborn and Aldwych, and once a year goes to Cockfosters for maintenance. It is not licensed to carry passengers. There is an embryo plan to run the 1938 tube stock on the branch as part of the Museum’s Hidden London programme whilst the 1972 tube stock is away for maintenance. Because of evacuation issues at Aldwych, only a maximum of 25 passengers can be carried on the train. This relies upon track and signalling safety arrangements, a full risk assessment, commercial agreement by TfL Legal, and LU Safety Operations and Emergency Planning agreement to run the train. See: This was once a signalled weekly move on and off the branch, but now requires a possession. When did that start? Does anyone know what is now required? Is it padlocked hand-worked points, or more involved? I was wondering if the 1972TS and 1938TS could swap places in one possession, or would it be more involved than that? Hi the 72 never went to Cockfoster depot for maintenance came to Northfields depot And the plan now is to scrap it and the AIT is going plus the two bombed cars the start of the new build of the Northfields Depot work is starting.
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Post by fish7373 on May 13, 2021 23:35:36 GMT
Tripcock testing Light which is white No, it's an Auxiliary red. There was never a Tripcock Tester at Rickmansworth as far as I'm aware. Hi found out what they are for from a LT signal notice gives a list of signals fitted with this . A emergence red light it says if the red main aspect fails this will come on and show red the signal in a rear will show a yellow aspect .
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Post by fish7373 on May 11, 2021 16:13:28 GMT
I wonder if that is what is next to the JP2 signal name in this view (if viewed at Flickr the image can be enlarged by clicking on it) Various-Rickmansworth-SteamOnMet2000btw, I know that this was filmed in the year 2000 because to get this view I was standing on the front of Met No.1, which was in the track for the bay platform Tripcock testing Light which is white
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 19, 2021 22:49:39 GMT
Hi when i got the 72 MK 1 for the AIT it had fitted Westinghouse 3HC43 compressors. I guess they were replaced during the upgrade work? Hi what was the upgrade when came to Northfields from Shoeburyness Westinghouse 3HC43 compressors. all ready fitted just needed overhauling
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 18, 2021 22:48:09 GMT
Mark 1s had Reavell TBC38Z as did the C77 stock, 1967 stock and A62 stock and the Mk2s, D stock and 1973 stock had the Westinghouse 3HC43 compressors. A60/62 Where fitted with DHC5a Westinghouse
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 18, 2021 22:13:17 GMT
Mark 1s had Reavell TBC38Z as did the C77 stock, 1967 stock and A62 stock and the Mk2s, D stock and 1973 stock had the Westinghouse 3HC43 compressors. Hi when i got the 72 MK 1 for the AIT it had fitted Westinghouse 3HC43 compressors.
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 18, 2021 1:09:00 GMT
Certainly older rolling stock can suffer with obsolescence but with advances in technology changing all the time, newer stock can also suffer with out of date equipment. It’s fortunate that the withdrawal of the 1967 stock has provided so many spare parts for the Bakerloo’s 1972 fleet. In fact the old Mark 1 stock compressors were recently replaced with spare Westinghouse compressors from D stock to match the rest of the fleet. The MK 1s had the same compressors as the D stock same as the 73s compressors and we had some off D stock as well for the Piccadilly line
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 8, 2021 21:32:55 GMT
Are the two units dedicated or do they use any unit? Seem to remember additional hatches were added in the units involved? The same units used all the time on reliability in the past and has no additional hatches fitted to the units
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Post by fish7373 on Jan 4, 2021 23:58:18 GMT
Also another thing I saw a 73 stock with some equipment inside for departmental stuff recently near northfields. Is that set a withdrawn one? That would be one of the two 3-car double-ended units that are temporarily withdrawn each autumn to act as rail adhesion trains, one west the other east. These are now having the temporary equipment removed and will be returned to passenger service. Hi we are still running are RAT train on the west end of the Piccadilly line filled it up to day and it went out.
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