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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2005 19:11:11 GMT
Does the W&C merit a Line Controller, or do the drivers just talk to the signalman?
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Post by Tom on Sept 11, 2005 19:12:59 GMT
The signalman has the train radio, and all drivers talk to him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2005 20:15:39 GMT
No line controller. The linec has a Duty Line Manager, he is basically combined DMT/Line controller, he makes all the decisions, but as Tom says, the drivers will speak to the Waterloo signalman on the radio
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Post by chris on Sept 12, 2005 16:55:36 GMT
All 4 of them?!  (Is it 4, i've forgotten) |
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Post by Tom on Sept 12, 2005 18:44:13 GMT
At the moment it is. 4 trains in service and a step-back driver.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2005 22:55:06 GMT
At the moment it is. 4 trains in service and a step-back driver. Who would be in the Step back room, with the Step back Manager! ;D (AND that is true!) |
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Post by igelkotten on Sept 13, 2005 1:13:27 GMT
It is interesting to note that one signalling operator and one line controller is the normal staffing of the control centre for the Blue line here in Stockholm, which has some 20 stations and about as many trains running off-peak an ordinary weekday.
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Post by DWS on Nov 14, 2005 21:48:31 GMT
No line controller. The linec has a Duty Line Manager, he is basically combined DMT/Line controller, he makes all the decisions, but as Tom says, the drivers will speak to the Waterloo signalman on the radio The Waterloo & City Line does have a line controller, is the same one as the East London Line  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2005 22:45:08 GMT
No line controller. The linec has a Duty Line Manager, he is basically combined DMT/Line controller, he makes all the decisions, but as Tom says, the drivers will speak to the Waterloo signalman on the radio The Waterloo & City Line does have a line controller, is the same one as the East London Line Thats what Jim said; The line doesnt have a Line Controller, it has a Duty Line Manager, as does the ELL, as it is the same person. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2005 5:58:49 GMT
its the same set-up on the ELL one person doing a few jobs at the same time
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Post by Colin on Nov 15, 2005 6:44:41 GMT
It's the same set up because, like MA said, it's the same person. The East London and the Waterloo & city are both 'controlled' by the same DLCM at New Cross depot.
The Waterloo & City line is managed under the East London line banner - even though it's drivers are supplied by the Central line.
So the signallers are at Waterloo, the 'line controller' is at New Cross and the drivers come from Leytonstone - Logical? LUL? Don't be silly ;D ;D ;D
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Post by DWS on Nov 15, 2005 11:08:36 GMT
With the recent implementation of the Service Control Re-Organisation, the Duty Line Manager and Duty Line Control Manager grades no longer exist, the correct title is Service Manager.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2005 12:22:34 GMT
With the recent implementation of the Service Control Re-Organisation, the Duty Line Manager and Duty Line Control Manager grades no longer exist, the correct title is Service Manager. Service Manager level 2 to be precise. |
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Post by Harsig on Nov 15, 2005 13:59:16 GMT
With the recent implementation of the Service Control Re-Organisation, the Duty Line Manager and Duty Line Control Manager grades no longer exist, the correct title is Service Manager. Service Manager level 2 to be precise. Or not so precise. The bit of paper I have in front of me, which shows how the old grades map into the new structure, shows the Duty Line Manager, East London Line as Service Manager Level 1. All other DOMs/DLCMs become Service Manager Level 2. |
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Post by c5 on Nov 15, 2005 17:08:13 GMT
But the DLMs earn more than a Met Line Controller... and to make things more confusing the signal operators (level 1 and 3 (reserve)) are now part of the ........DISTRICT line ;D
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Post by Chris M on Nov 15, 2005 20:24:42 GMT
How many reorganisations and relabelings have happend now? It seems from an outsider's perspective that the entire structure is redrawn and rearranged every 3 years or so, with lots of piecemeal fiddling and reorganisation bewtween!
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Post by Tom on Nov 15, 2005 21:53:15 GMT
The operational side has been - engineering wise it's the same as it was when the line became part of LU in 1994 (well, almost).
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Post by dans on Dec 24, 2007 2:08:28 GMT
THE WATERLOO AND CITY
RESENTLY THE WATERLOO AND CITY LINE NOW COMES UNDER THE CENTRAL LINE AT WOOD LANE, BUT IS CONTROLLED AT WATERLOO.
THE SERVICE OPERATERS COVER, LINE CONTROL , SIGNALLING,
AND LINE INFORMATION, AND TRAIN RADIO, THIS NOW
COMES UNDER THE NEW SERVICE CONTROL CENTRE IN THE DEPOT AT WATERLOO (WHICH IS COMPUTOR BASED) .
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Post by glasgowdriver on Dec 24, 2007 11:08:28 GMT
just to clarify at peak times the waterloo-city line runs 5 trains at peak hence why you see 2 memebers to station staff detraining the trains at waterloo at peak time aparantly saves the train op a few minutes if he stays in the cab and leaves it to us poor station staff to detrain gets pretty tiring after a while tho because as soon as one train has cleared the shunt signal the next train is pulling into the platform i am sure it is still 5 trains during peak tho was when i worked at waterloo 2 months ago
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 14:01:25 GMT
It is a 5 train service in peaks, off the top of my head a four train service is about 17 TPH and a five train about 23. As Mitcham says, with the time it takes to detrain and get into the siding, it is a very intensive service. Off peaks it is generally a three train 5 minute service, and the last hour or so M - F is a two train 10 minute service.
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Post by glasgowdriver on Dec 24, 2007 15:11:27 GMT
brings bad the great memorys of been station assistants doing the W&C arrivals at waterloo eh alex oh the joys haha
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Post by Colin on Dec 24, 2007 16:40:47 GMT
THE WATERLOO AND CITY RESENTLY THE WATERLOO AND CITY LINE NOW COMES UNDER THE CENTRAL LINE AT WOOD LANE, BUT IS CONTROLLED AT WATERLOO. THE SERVICE OPERATERS COVER, LINE CONTROL , SIGNALLING, AND LINE INFORMATION, AND TRAIN RADIO, THIS NOW COMES UNDER THE NEW SERVICE CONTROL CENTRE IN THE DEPOT AT WATERLOO (WHICH IS COMPUTOR BASED) . Welcome to the forum 'dans' - dunno if you're aware but typing in capitals is considered as shouting ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 21:37:54 GMT
brings bad the great memorys of been station assistants doing the W&C arrivals at waterloo eh alex oh the joys haha Oh it's fantastic ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2008 16:18:21 GMT
Looks like the signallers are now being rewarded for there job roles at waterloo and being
regraded as SCL1
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Post by 21146 on Nov 9, 2008 0:52:56 GMT
Looks like the signallers are now being rewarded for there job roles at waterloo and being regraded as SCL1 Lucky them, when can I apply for transfer? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2008 22:34:17 GMT
wish u could looks like there looking to make service operators into a lower grade service controllers for less money 41000 ?
what do u reckon ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2008 23:16:52 GMT
looks like the district line service operators 3 will have to q 4 waterloo w&c line as service controllers 4 no extra an work there then they can down grade everwhere else ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2008 23:28:41 GMT
to use the service operators as local service controllers via connect radio ?
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