It’s a different culture of safety that now presides over our rail network in this country. The rafts of legislation that have come into force since the early 2000’s have made the railway a safer environment for all of us even if many people myself included may say, “well we got by fine without a yellow line”. Whilst that is true, that’s not to say accidents didn’t happen and there were some truly horrific ones which are definitely more of a rarity today due greater awareness in general but also the subtle features that are now built in to or part of the railway environment.
alpinejohn , I agree with your points with announcements. Before the new roster systems for stations came into place, it would be exceptionally rare to hear announcements on the Uxbridge branch when everything was running smoothly which meant that when announcements were made people actually looked up.
Most Metropolitan line drivers usually speak verbally when a train changes destination or calling pattern instead of letting the automated announcements do the talking which works because it gets most people’s attention when there’s a break to the routine.
I wonder if people would actually look up now upon noticing a silent platform.
Child of Middlesex, student of the City, resident of the Metropolitan
Personally I am not fussed if voice announcements are shorter. Indeed if we dump "ladies and Gentlemen" the remaining content of the message still appears to convey the information required.
I would hate to live in very close proximity to any above ground tube station relentlessly playing basically similar messages from before dawn to gone midnight. I used to live almost 1/2 mile from Wembley Park although very near the lines and when the wind was in the right direction and I had windows open I could hear the station announcements regardless of whether I wanted to or not.
Thankfully I live a fair bit further away now. I rather like the terse announcements by SBB - the next station is xxx . No prior salutation, no unnecessary padding, just preceded by a quiet chime at which point noisy conversations in the carriage seem to magically stop. I doubt any of the TFL automated safety announcements really have great impact except full blown emergency evacuation messages.
Certainly the other day in Oxford Circus - regular requests to stay behind the yellow line - prompted no visible action by anyone on a far from heaving platform which was seemingly full of people fixated on their mobile phones. I rather suspect these messages are only being done to minimise/mitigate potential insurance claims rather than deliver any discernible improvement in safety. (a bit like the ubiquitous yellow slippery floor warning cone which now seem to infest virtually every restaurant in the capital).
Strangely enough I managed to commute without any incident for decades into various offices around Whitehall without these safety announcements. Indeed only might conclude that TFL has determined that London is now so full of total idiots, that we all need to be treated like 5 year olds and repeatedly told not to do patently stupid things.
Oh well after one last look at the 172s, its cabin crew arm doors and cross check and off to the Alps for me - drones permitting that is.
Oh it gets worse. Now if you have to catch a hex or tfl rail train from Heathrow Terminal 2 you are greeted by an over enthusiastic member of staff shouting what time the next train is. It doesn't matter what time of day or how busy the platform is either. To make matters even more infuriating, when he isn't announcing there are recorded safety messages and train information. Not that long ago you could go on to the hex platform at Terminal 2 and it would be quiet and peaceful.
Transport for London - Causing people to put headphones on.
I do exactly what you mention ad1992. I have a set of noise cancelling headphones I purchased for overnight long haul flights that now use daily with the noise cancelling on but often no music. Some stations and platforms are becoming unbearable due to repeated high volume announcements of the obvious by platform announcers. Canary Wharf of an evening and Westminster jubilee eastbound of an early morning are my two most annoying. In the latter case the platform was not even attended for decades.
I sometimes wonder why there are so many strikes on LU, and what it is about the management attitude that leads to them.
Sometimes I don't have to wonder so hard.
The majority of staff have no problem with being asked to be inclusive and representative with the city we serve. What an utterly ridiculous comment.
It's not about what's being asked.
It's fairly obvious that changes are going to happen from time to time, and there are always going to be some staff that are less happy about the changes than others.
If you look at what I underlined - which provided the context for the comment - it's the aggressive and bullying tone that I found offensive.
If this is how LU speak to and about their staff at the rail face, is it any wonder that we have see almost weekly parade of possible strike alerts?
ETA I have no idea what the removal of "ladies and gentlemen" has to do with being representative. I'd assumed that it was being removed to get rid of audio clutter, as, as has been mentioned earlier, there is so much repeated twittering that many people are becoming deaf to announcements - even if they are not wearing earbuds.
What are the costs to updating PA systems on platforms, and do they outweigh the benefits? I would understand TfL wanting to replace the PA on lines where there are significant changes, such as an extension. Are there any new legal requirements surrounding the platform PA which the old system did not meet?