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Post by adam on Nov 21, 2018 3:27:15 GMT
Alot of the Central Line platforms are now having their platform next train/train arrival announcements replaced by those used on the Piccadilly, Jubilee, Northen Lines etc
Aswell as New DMI's, think they are rushing phasing the new announcements in, as they dont seem to be correct, the Central Line, used to have another voice over "Ladies and Gentlemen, the next train will arrive in 1/2 mins will be a Central Line Service, calling all stations to Hainult via Newbury Park"
And "Ladies and Gentlemen, the train now approaching is a Central Line service, calling all stations to Ealing Broadway, Ladies and Gentlemen, please stand behind the yellow line as the train approaches, use the full length of the platform and let passengers off the train first"
The one at Holland Park is correct, it Goes Central Line, the next train to West Ruislip will arrive in 2 mins, next station etc
Central Line the train now approaching is to West Ruislip, please stand back from the platform edge.
But other stations like S. Bush, White City, it is sounding awfull and words missing and doesnt say the Via Newbury Park etc
Any stations still have the old voice? who was the old voice?
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 21, 2018 9:42:42 GMT
I think it was Emma Clarke.
Regents Park and Preston Road are the ones I definitely know still have those announcements.
The video below has a nice clear recording the announcer's voice at 00:27 albeit with a slightly different script being out of service.
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Post by punkman on Nov 21, 2018 10:12:34 GMT
Aren't TFL supposed to be getting away from "Ladies and Gentlemen" (well, officially anyway)?
As an aside at Neasden southbound (Jubilee) they play the "The train approaching......stand away from the platform edge" announcement when the trains has almost fully berthed; I've even heard it at Waterloo despite the platform doors.
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 21, 2018 10:26:54 GMT
Aren't TFL supposed to be getting away from "Ladies and Gentlemen" (well, officially anyway)? As an aside at Neasden southbound (Jubilee) they play the "The train approaching......stand away from the platform edge" announcement when the trains has almost fully berthed; I've even heard it at Waterloo despite the platform doors. They are indeed, but if it’s alright, il refrain from discussing further on that particular subject bearing in mind what the Mod/Admin Team recommended given events prior. The platform edge doors do encourage people to line most of the time but you still end up having to shuffle through clusters particularly if your going against the main direction of traffic in the peaks so I welcome the audible warning as I’m probably guilty myself. Example of the Platform Edge Door style announcements at Westminster. |
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Post by Chris M on Nov 21, 2018 11:52:47 GMT
I not infrequently alight at Canary Wharf JLE during the peaks and sometimes you do have to be quite forceful to ensure you are let off the train first and that once you have alighted the train that you can then make your way to the exit.
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Post by adam on Nov 21, 2018 12:53:23 GMT
Aren't TFL supposed to be getting away from "Ladies and Gentlemen" (well, officially anyway)? As an aside at Neasden southbound (Jubilee) they play the "The train approaching......stand away from the platform edge" announcement when the trains has almost fully berthed; I've even heard it at Waterloo despite the platform doors. They are indeed, but if it’s alright, il refrain from discussing further on that particular subject bearing in mind what the Mod/Admin Team recommended given events prior. The platform edge doors do encourage people to line most of the time but you still end up having to shuffle through clusters particularly if your going against the main direction of traffic in the peaks so I welcome the audible warning as I’m probably guilty myself. Example of the Platform Edge Door style announcements at Westminster. The platform edge door announcements at Both Waterloo and Westminster have been put back to please stand back from the platform edge. Interesting Waterloo/Westminster Don't announce the next station either. The Piccadilly Line at Knightsbridge, Green Park, Hyde Park Corner, Leicester Square, Covent Garden, Russell Square, play the train now approaching when the train is near at a stop in the platform! and no longer say the next station. |
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Post by beingcharley on Nov 21, 2018 14:16:19 GMT
Aren't TFL supposed to be getting away from "Ladies and Gentlemen" (well, officially anyway)? There's no 'supposed to be' about it. It's happening, it's a policy, and it's staying whether certain staff who are stuck in the 1800s like it or not. If people have a problem with it they can take their employment elsewhere. Part of the PA changes taking place on the Central line (and others) are directly related to this, as it is cheaper to get announcements re-recorded for one system than for multiple systems. They are indeed, but if it’s alright, il refrain from discussing further on that particular subject bearing in mind what the Mod/Admin Team recommended given events prior. If I recall the only reason the discussion was ended was because certain members were becoming increasingly offensive. As one of the members of TfL staff directly involved with making this happen it's not really something up for discussion anyway. Don't like it? Tough. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 21, 2018 14:50:23 GMT
Aren't TFL supposed to be getting away from "Ladies and Gentlemen" (well, officially anyway)? They are indeed, but if it’s alright, I'll refrain from discussing further on that particular subject bearing in mind what the Mod/Admin Team recommended given events prior. If I recall the only reason the discussion was ended was because certain members were becoming increasingly offensive. The thread discussing the removal of "Ladies & Gentlemen" from announcements was removed because posts were verging on becoming disrespectful and we didn't want members to fall into saying something they later regretted. The comment I made at the time still rings true: Members are reminded to think about what they post before pressing the reply button. Discussion here is public and anybody can read your comments, it is not the same as a discussion amongst friends in a closed room. This is not about being "PC" but simply about being respectful to other people. Let's not dwell on this aspect, but focus on the roll-out of the replacement system(s), eh folks? |
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Post by Alight on Nov 21, 2018 16:46:04 GMT
I think it was Emma Clarke. Pauline Cavilla was the voice and only seemed to be at select stations managed under the BCV group. As someone else has already alluded to, TfL are now going over to one system, which happens to be the legacy Tubelines system voiced by Elinor Hamilton. I have to say I was not impressed by their decision to replace the other system we haven't mentioned yet known as 'Voice Perfect' (voiced by Henrietta Bass) at stations where the system was fine as it was. For instance, Voice Perfect at Victoria was replaced with the legacy Tubelines one upon opening the new Cardinal Place entrance and it just sounds so unnatural on the inflections and cobbled together. The only stations where they seem to have retained Voice Perfect along that stretch of the Victoria line are Vauxhall and Pimlico but I suspect it is only a matter of time... |
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Post by adam on Nov 21, 2018 18:05:08 GMT
Ellinor Hamilton is the tube lines voice, which all the stations are going over too.
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Post by adam on Nov 21, 2018 18:09:08 GMT
I like the accouterments, I always try record them.
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Post by commuter on Nov 21, 2018 23:08:32 GMT
They are indeed, but if it’s alright, il refrain from discussing further on that particular subject bearing in mind what the Mod/Admin Team recommended given events prior. The platform edge doors do encourage people to line most of the time but you still end up having to shuffle through clusters particularly if your going against the main direction of traffic in the peaks so I welcome the audible warning as I’m probably guilty myself. Example of the Platform Edge Door style announcements at Westminster. The platform edge door announcements at Both Waterloo and Westminster have been put back to please stand back from the platform edge. Interesting Waterloo/Westminster Don't announce the next station either. The Piccadilly Line at Knightsbridge, Green Park, Hyde Park Corner, Leicester Square, Covent Garden, Russell Square, play the train now approaching when the train is near at a stop in the platform! and no longer say the next station. Its only supposed to announce the next station at the “The next train to X will arrive in two minutes” announcement, not at the “The train now approaching” announcement. The issue on the Pic line announcing trains late has been ongoing since the Picu signaling system upgrade for the section west of Wood Green moved control of the signals from the old Kings Cross desk in the Earls Court Control Room, to the downstairs temporary room [subsequently its moved to South Kensington). It’s also why the *** Stand back train approaching *** doesn’t appear until after the train has also entered the platform on the dot matrix indicators. |
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Post by adam on Nov 22, 2018 0:35:21 GMT
When are they gonna fix this?
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Post by ad1992 on Jan 9, 2019 11:30:13 GMT
I think it was Emma Clarke. Pauline Cavilla was the voice and only seemed to be at select stations managed under the BCV group. As someone else has already alluded to, TfL are now going over to one system, which happens to be the legacy Tubelines system voiced by Elinor Hamilton. I have to say I was not impressed by their decision to replace the other system we haven't mentioned yet known as 'Voice Perfect' (voiced by Henrietta Bass) at stations where the system was fine as it was. For instance, Voice Perfect at Victoria was replaced with the legacy Tubelines one upon opening the new Cardinal Place entrance and it just sounds so unnatural on the inflections and cobbled together. The only stations where they seem to have retained Voice Perfect along that stretch of the Victoria line are Vauxhall and Pimlico but I suspect it is only a matter of time...
Yes it is a shame the Voice Perfect system has been replaced, Henrietta unlike most of the other voices was quite pleasant to listen to. As usual Tfl lose something decent and replace it with something rubbish. But I am sure it saves them money somewhere..
On another subject, why have all the decent DMI screens on the central line been replaced? Is it is again cheaper to remove big screens that one can see and replace them with smaller cis screens that are harder to see? |
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Post by alpinejohn on Jan 9, 2019 12:10:49 GMT
Personally I am not fussed if voice announcements are shorter. Indeed if we dump "ladies and Gentlemen" the remaining content of the message still appears to convey the information required.
I would hate to live in very close proximity to any above ground tube station relentlessly playing basically similar messages from before dawn to gone midnight. I used to live almost 1/2 mile from Wembley Park although very near the lines and when the wind was in the right direction and I had windows open I could hear the station announcements regardless of whether I wanted to or not.
Thankfully I live a fair bit further away now. I rather like the terse announcements by SBB - the next station is xxx . No prior salutation, no unnecessary padding, just preceded by a quiet chime at which point noisy conversations in the carriage seem to magically stop. I doubt any of the TFL automated safety announcements really have great impact except full blown emergency evacuation messages.
Certainly the other day in Oxford Circus - regular requests to stay behind the yellow line - prompted no visible action by anyone on a far from heaving platform which was seemingly full of people fixated on their mobile phones. I rather suspect these messages are only being done to minimise/mitigate potential insurance claims rather than deliver any discernible improvement in safety. (a bit like the ubiquitous yellow slippery floor warning cone which now seem to infest virtually every restaurant in the capital).
Strangely enough I managed to commute without any incident for decades into various offices around Whitehall without these safety announcements. Indeed only might conclude that TFL has determined that London is now so full of total idiots, that we all need to be treated like 5 year olds and repeatedly told not to do patently stupid things.
Oh well after one last look at the 172s, its cabin crew arm doors and cross check and off to the Alps for me - drones permitting that is.
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