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Post by roythebus on Nov 19, 2018 13:12:42 GMT
My partner reported seeing "one of the old tube trains" at Newbury Park on Sunday 18/11/18. It was after 1600 as daylight had faded. Was it the Cravens track recorder? De-icer? 38TS on tour?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 19, 2018 14:02:36 GMT
Probably the Rail Adhesion Train, I keep getting delayed by it, usually when I'm on my last trip.
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Post by class411 on Nov 19, 2018 14:47:55 GMT
Probably the Rail Adhesion Train, I keep getting delayed by it, usually when I'm on my last trip. Have you ever wondered why they run it before the last trip of the day? |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 19, 2018 14:56:06 GMT
Not THE last trip of the day, MY last trip of the day, regardless of when my last trip is. It knows I'm there...
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Post by roythebus on Nov 19, 2018 17:14:55 GMT
So, what is the Central Line RAT formed of these days?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 19, 2018 18:35:31 GMT
So, what is the Central Line RAT formed of these days? west-end 5-car 1962 Stock east-end 8-car 1962 Stock |
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Post by Chris M on Nov 19, 2018 19:55:09 GMT
Is there a reason for the different train lengths?
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Post by spsmiler on Nov 19, 2018 20:31:28 GMT
Roy, if your partner had been there earlier in the day then you would probably have heard about two people filming it (one on each platform).
One of those people was me!
I actually went to Newbury Park on both Saturday and Sunday and filmed the 1962 tube stock RAT (rail adhesion train) from both platforms.
On Saturday I also travelled on the first service train after the RAT because it is routed to follow the RAT via the siding which also forms part of a reversing loop. This was the first time that I travelled via this loop line - rather than the main route - so it means that another section of 'rare track' can be ticked off my list. Especially rare is the northern part of the loop as even terminating trains do not normally travel that far.
I ended up at Barkingside, which is one of the grandest Victorian-era stations in all of London. Not the biggest, but especially the inner rail station building is something special.
A few years ago I saw the signal person send a Newbury Park terminating Central line train into the siding ahead of the RAT, which was not at all ideal as the RAT was occupying the platform that the service train needed to use when leaving the siding. On that occasion the RAT ended up being sent to Leytonstone via the tube tunnels. I suppose its fortunate that this was a tube train and not a subsurface train!
I hope to have what I filmed online for people to see later this month; before then however I need to film from one of the bridges above the railway.
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Post by spsmiler on Nov 19, 2018 20:40:09 GMT
Probably the Rail Adhesion Train, I keep getting delayed by it, usually when I'm on my last trip.
it might just be a perception - rather than something that would be proven accurate by people with stops watches - but it does seem that a person can wait minutes on end for trains to come ... yet when the RAT appears so suddenly several service trains appear on the scene, only to become stopped at red signals.
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Post by class411 on Nov 19, 2018 21:46:46 GMT
Not THE last trip of the day, MY last trip of the day, regardless of when my last trip is. It knows I'm there... I asked because I have a friend who used to be a central line driver. He wondered why it was that often, when he was doing the last passenger run of the day, he would be held up behind an engineering train of some sort. He eventually found someone to ask and discovered that some regulation changed after the last passenger run and so it made life easier (not for the people on the last passenger train), if any engineering train was slotted in ahead of it. Unfortunately I can't remember the exact details. |
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Post by stapler on Nov 19, 2018 21:56:20 GMT
SPS,just to be pedantic, Barkingside isn't Victorian -- it's Edwardian (1903). Though all the Fairlop Loop buildings at track level were quite commodious, the booking offices were nothing really special, and those at eg Hainault and Fairlop were pretty derisory. Quite why Barkingside was so grand is a bit of a mystery. The Barnardo homes nearby were under royal patronage, but did the GE really expect the King to travel via the Loop?
Hainault was closed down 1908-30; my uncle remembered when it was necessary to tip the guard a copper or two to alight.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 19, 2018 22:39:26 GMT
Left Epping about 9:40pm, breathed a sigh of relief when I wasn't held outside Woodford by the RAT reversing off plat. 2 as I have been numerous times before but then as I approached Leytonstone I saw a red signal ahead. Sure enough it was the RAT reversing off plat. 2.
I missed my bus.
Perception?
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Post by ollie102030 on Nov 19, 2018 23:40:27 GMT
Do the RATs have a specific slot on the central line? As far as I know both trains 488 and 489 don’t appear on any official WTTs or anything similar. I’ve been trying to photograph the west end one for a while, yet I can never work out where it is going to appear!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 20, 2018 6:09:47 GMT
Do the RATs have a specific slot on the central line? As far as I know both trains 488 and 489 don’t appear on any official WTTs or anything similar. Both trains 488 489 timings appear in Special Trains Notice STN55/18 valid until 23 December 2018. |
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Post by robv on Nov 20, 2018 10:26:01 GMT
Is there a reason for the different train lengths? More power so not to delay service on the east end |
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