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Post by zcap on Oct 19, 2018 17:53:03 GMT
Hi all. Ive noticed that escalator 8 (middle staircase from middle mezzanine level to Victoria Line platforms) appears to have never been commissioned into use and instead was retrofitted as a staircase. Anyone know why this was? Many thanks, zcap  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 18:43:00 GMT
Why do you think it was retrofitted?
Since Victoria lube was built on the cheap, it is more likely it was always a staircase!
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Post by zcap on Oct 19, 2018 18:55:58 GMT
Why do you think it was retrofitted? Since Victoria lube was built on the cheap, it is more likely it was always a staircase! Tbh I thought so since the handrails are installed and its even numbered in accordance with the other escalators. But I remember reading it was built on the cheapo, I thought either it mightve just never been built or a "Brixton in the early 2000s situation" that went wrong and, instead of repairing the escalator, they made it a staircase. |
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 19, 2018 18:59:48 GMT
Stairs are always numbered in the same series as escalators.
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Post by zcap on Oct 19, 2018 19:02:08 GMT
Stairs are always numbered in the same series as escalators. Oh, I didnt know! Fanks for that! |
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 19, 2018 19:15:56 GMT
zcap Warren Street was a relatively late addition to the Victoria line plans, but it still employed the regular triple set of escalators that has evolved to become the standard for deep level stations even if there was no anticipation that all three would required to be fitted out. It certainly isn't the first to have passive provision by way of curmctsnace of light traffic, Swiss Cottage, St John's Wood, Warwick Avenue, Maida Vale, Kilburn Park and many others have this set up where there simply isn't the need for a set of three.
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 19, 2018 21:06:39 GMT
There's a few of this kind of thing on MerseyRail. They retain the escalator paneled sides and continuous belt handrail, but the escalator treads are missing and replaced by fixed stairs if conventional pitch (and thus landings to keep the gradient consistent with the handrail). I've always wondered which came first.
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Post by zbang on Oct 20, 2018 21:34:59 GMT
Isn't an out-of-service third escalator also known as a "parts donor"?
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 21, 2018 6:53:48 GMT
Isn't an out-of-service third escalator also known as a "parts donor"? I suppose it depends how long the third escalator is going to be out of service, with traffic like it is I don't think they would like it to be too long. |
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 21, 2018 6:54:54 GMT
Why do you think it was retrofitted? Since Victoria lube was built on the cheap, it is more likely it was always a staircase! As cheap as it was it is my understanding that a fixed stairway was going to be provided. |
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 21, 2018 6:55:57 GMT
zcap Warren Street was a relatively late addition to the Victoria line plans, but it still employed the regular triple set of escalators that has evolved to become the standard for deep level stations even if there was no anticipation that all three would required to be fitted out. It certainly isn't the first to have passive provision by way of curmctsnace of light traffic, Swiss Cottage, St John's Wood, Warwick Avenue, Maida Vale, Kilburn Park and many others have this set up where there simply isn't the need for a set of three. GA can you be more specific about Warren Street being a late addition as I thought it was always in the plan well from the mid 1950s at least. |
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 21, 2018 18:33:46 GMT
zcap Warren Street was a relatively late addition to the Victoria line plans, but it still employed the regular triple set of escalators that has evolved to become the standard for deep level stations even if there was no anticipation that all three would required to be fitted out. It certainly isn't the first to have passive provision by way of curmctsnace of light traffic, Swiss Cottage, St John's Wood, Warwick Avenue, Maida Vale, Kilburn Park and many others have this set up where there simply isn't the need for a set of three. GA can you be more specific about Warren Street being a late addition as I thought it was always in the plan well from the mid 1950s at least. As you, say I believe that Warren Street and Pimlico were mentioned in some way or form from the last few reports leading up to the act of parliament. But the early post war studies talk of a route linking Kings X, St Pancras, Euston and Victoria. There was quite a generous amount of swaying of the route to the head and foot of the route, but the framework of the central route between Finsbury Park and Stockwell was basically there, which I believe was what was cited in video 125’s drivers eye view of the Victoria line too. |
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Post by programmes1 on Oct 22, 2018 10:19:01 GMT
GA can you be more specific about Warren Street being a late addition as I thought it was always in the plan well from the mid 1950s at least. As you, say I believe that Warren Street and Pimlico were mentioned in some way or form from the last few reports leading up to the act of parliament. But the early post war studies talk of a route linking Kings X, St Pancras, Euston and Victoria. There was quite a generous amount of swaying of the route to the head and foot of the route, but the framework of the central route between Finsbury Park and Stockwell was basically there, which I believe was what was cited in video 125’s drivers eye view of the Victoria line too. GA yes you are right there was route alterations/alignment in the early plans, Pimlico came very late like a lot of things. |
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 22, 2018 11:41:12 GMT
As you, say I believe that Warren Street and Pimlico were mentioned in some way or form from the last few reports leading up to the act of parliament. But the early post war studies talk of a route linking Kings X, St Pancras, Euston and Victoria. There was quite a generous amount of swaying of the route to the head and foot of the route, but the framework of the central route between Finsbury Park and Stockwell was basically there, which I believe was what was cited in video 125’s drivers eye view of the Victoria line too. GA yes you are right there was route alterations/alignment in the early plans, Pimlico came very late like a lot of things. Slightly off topic but Pimlico, like Worlds End is now, would have been one of those strange places that is well located but no transport links whatsoever. I suppose like Nine Elms is now. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 22, 2018 19:29:04 GMT
Slightly off topic but Pimlico would have been one of those strange places that is well located but no transport links whatsoever. I suppose like Nine Elms is now. By an odd coincidence "Passport to Pimlico" was actually filmed in the Nine Elms area, where a certain well-known plumbing chain now has its headquarters. |
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Post by John Tuthill on Oct 22, 2018 19:44:45 GMT
Slightly off topic but Pimlico would have been one of those strange places that is well located but no transport links whatsoever. I suppose like Nine Elms is now. By an odd coincidence "Passport to Pimlico" was actually filmed in the Nine Elms area, where a certain well-known plumbing chain now has its headquarters. Is Lambeth Rd/Hercules Rd considered to be 'Nine Elms?' Check out the 'Reel Streets' web page  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 23, 2018 6:55:43 GMT
Mea culpa - Nine Elms is the other side of Vauxhall of course.
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