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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 25, 2018 21:17:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 21:22:24 GMT
Really great photo. I wonder where they took it from
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Post by goldenarrow on Jul 25, 2018 21:29:34 GMT
Really great photo. I wonder where they took it from It was most likely taken through a fence over looking the depot on the side of the A302 (St George’s Road) before the junction with Lambeth Road opposite the corner of the grounds of the Imperial War Museum.
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Post by bearbin on Jul 25, 2018 21:33:44 GMT
Great photo! I imagine it was taken over the wall on St George's Road, or perhaps from the roof of one of the depot buildings to get such a good angle.
Are there any plans to build over/sell off the depot? If/when a new depot is needed for the extension it seems like it would be a valuable bit of land to develop.
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Post by londoner on Jul 25, 2018 21:55:52 GMT
Great photo! I imagine it was taken over the wall on St George's Road, or perhaps from the roof of one of the depot buildings to get such a good angle. Are there any plans to build over/sell off the depot? If/when a new depot is needed for the extension it seems like it would be a valuable bit of land to develop. Depot space is hard to come by, so its unlikely any existing depot space will be sold off.
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Post by John Tuthill on Jul 25, 2018 23:02:49 GMT
Great photo! I imagine it was taken over the wall on St George's Road, or perhaps from the roof of one of the depot buildings to get such a good angle. Are there any plans to build over/sell off the depot? If/when a new depot is needed for the extension it seems like it would be a valuable bit of land to develop. Depot space is hard to come by, so its unlikely any existing depot space will be sold off. Why not build over it? White City depot is UNDER the Westfield Centre
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Post by Colin D on Jul 26, 2018 2:34:17 GMT
Great photo, brings back a lot of memories. Took many a 38ts in and out of London Road Depot when I was traveling for my job. Skyline looks a bit different though. Thanks rincew1nd .
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 26, 2018 6:59:57 GMT
Great photo! I imagine it was taken over the wall on St George's Road, or perhaps from the roof of one of the depot buildings to get such a good angle. . Are there any depot buildings on that side of the yard? It was probably taken from the top deck of a bus.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 26, 2018 9:46:26 GMT
Are there any depot buildings on that side of the yard? It was probably taken from the top deck of a bus. There aren’t. Knowing the photographer, as he provides excellent material for Underground News, he was probably using his extendable pole !
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Post by Chris M on Jul 26, 2018 10:23:02 GMT
There is no way you'd get a photo of this quality from a bus - unless it was completely stationary for the duration of the exposure and had very clean windows. Also, this is the view from a bus and you can see the angle is much poorer (click for a larger version)
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Post by John Tuthill on Jul 26, 2018 11:04:10 GMT
Great photo! I imagine it was taken over the wall on St George's Road, or perhaps from the roof of one of the depot buildings to get such a good angle. . Are there any depot buildings on that side of the yard? It was probably taken from the top deck of a bus. From that angle, I'd suggest a drone? There are none of the railings, unless its ben edited? Just a thought
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 26, 2018 11:38:22 GMT
Depot space is hard to come by, so its unlikely any existing depot space will be sold off. Why not build over it? White City depot is UNDER the Westfield Centre Westfield wasn't built over the old depot which was a lot closer to station than the new one. If memory serves the old depot closed about a year before the new one opened, if you built over London Road it would also have to close while building work was in progress meaning that there would only be four trains stabled south of Queens Park (two sidings and both platforms)
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Post by John Tuthill on Jul 26, 2018 11:54:27 GMT
Why not build over it? White City depot is UNDER the Westfield Centre Westfield wasn't built over the old depot which was a lot closer to station than the new one. If memory serves the old depot closed about a year before the new one opened, if you built over London Road it would also have to close while building work was in progress meaning that there would only be four trains stabled south of Queens Park (two sidings and both platforms) I appreciate what you've written, and I agree entirely. I was involved in the fire and security systems at the new White City depot; it was always after that that I thought of all the main U/G depots, the footprints of land that they occupy and the possibility of building over them for housing/bus garages and the likes. I just wonder if anyone at TFL or a civil engineering company have had the same thoughts?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 26, 2018 12:12:49 GMT
From that angle, I'd suggest a drone? There are none of the railings, unless its ben edited? Just a thought Jason neither uses a drone or edits his excellent photos.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 26, 2018 12:45:12 GMT
There is no way you'd get a photo of this quality from a bus - unless it was completely stationary for the duration of the exposure and had very clean windows. Also, this is the view from a bus and you can see the angle is much poorer Buses are frequently stationary at that location as there is a set of traffic lights just beyond. Point taken about the angle and the clean windows though.
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Post by Chris M on Jul 26, 2018 14:49:22 GMT
From that angle, I'd suggest a drone? There are none of the railings, unless its ben edited? Just a thought Almost certainly just the camera lens placed between gaps in the railings.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 26, 2018 15:36:07 GMT
From that angle, I'd suggest a drone? There are none of the railings, unless its ben edited? Just a thought Almost certainly just the camera lens placed between gaps in the railings. I doubt it, as the view taken from the bus suggests you would have to be looking over (not through) the railings to get that shot - note the relative positions of the top of the railings, the top of the pitched roof of the car shed, and the top floor windows of the building behind are very similar in both pictures. If you were peering through the railings (and even that would require you to stand on a step of some kind - looking at Google Street View, and using passers by for scale, the wall on which the railings are mounted is itself about six feet high), the car shed would obscure a lot more of the building behind. I think the camera was on a long pole.
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Post by MoreToJack on Jul 26, 2018 20:11:22 GMT
The answer has already been posted folks. He was probably using his extendable pole !
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Post by metman on Jul 27, 2018 13:18:51 GMT
Yup, Jason uses an extension pole and it’s very effective! He’s a really nice chap too. Always happy to have a chat. Another superb photo.
You can just see the 1967 stock spare unit at the back of the site!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 22:20:39 GMT
Yup, Jason uses an extension pole and it’s very effective! He’s a really nice chap too. Always happy to have a chat. Another superb photo. You can just see the 1967 stock spare unit at the back of the site! There were plans a few weeks ago to possibly use the cab off that unit for a project, but that idea was stopped.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 1:59:33 GMT
This is how it looks like from the gap in the railings:
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Post by drainrat on Sept 27, 2018 9:58:07 GMT
Westfield wasn't built over the old depot which was a lot closer to station than the new one. If memory serves the old depot closed about a year before the new one opened, if you built over London Road it would also have to close while building work was in progress meaning that there would only be four trains stabled south of Queens Park (two sidings and both platforms) I appreciate what you've written, and I agree entirely. I was involved in the fire and security systems at the new White City depot; it was always after that that I thought of all the main U/G depots, the footprints of land that they occupy and the possibility of building over them for housing/bus garages and the likes. I just wonder if anyone at TFL or a civil engineering company have had the same thoughts? Was it yourself who used to meet with us over the walkway systems at the new White City depot?
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 27, 2018 11:45:52 GMT
I appreciate what you've written, and I agree entirely. I was involved in the fire and security systems at the new White City depot; it was always after that that I thought of all the main U/G depots, the footprints of land that they occupy and the possibility of building over them for housing/bus garages and the likes. I just wonder if anyone at TFL or a civil engineering company have had the same thoughts? Was it yourself who used to meet with us over the walkway systems at the new White City depot? No not me. I was primarily on the design and implementation of the fire and security systems, and all the paperwork that involved.
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Post by drainrat on Sept 27, 2018 14:47:33 GMT
Ah, I used to call him 'Safety John' and saw your name so had to ask. I can see some similarities between White city depot and London Road, both had/have a 'secret garden' feel to them that could easily be enclosed somehow. As for where would the trains go, not an issue, the last time London Road was taken out of use, stablers were sent up to Neasden via the Jubilee line 😉
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Post by Chris M on Sept 27, 2018 15:04:30 GMT
As for where would the trains go, not an issue, the last time London Road was taken out of use, stablers were sent up to Neasden via the Jubilee line 😉 The Jubilee line has been resignalled since then and, AIUI, Bakerloo Line trains would now require a possession (between at least Neasden and Baker Street, probably Wembley Park to Waterloo in practice) to get to and from Neasden depot.
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Post by drainrat on Sept 27, 2018 15:49:35 GMT
As for where would the trains go, not an issue, the last time London Road was taken out of use, stablers were sent up to Neasden via the Jubilee line 😉 The Jubilee line has been resignalled since then and, AIUI, Bakerloo Line trains would now require a possession (between at least Neasden and Baker Street, probably Wembley Park to Waterloo in practice) to get to and from Neasden depot. But they still have a colour light?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 16:15:44 GMT
As for where would the trains go, not an issue, the last time London Road was taken out of use, stablers were sent up to Neasden via the Jubilee line 😉 The Jubilee line has been resignalled since then and, AIUI, Bakerloo Line trains would now require a possession (between at least Neasden and Baker Street, probably Wembley Park to Waterloo in practice) to get to and from Neasden depot. Or after all booked trains have left the line, sort of like a possession
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Post by drainrat on Sept 27, 2018 16:40:45 GMT
The Jubilee line has been resignalled since then and, AIUI, Bakerloo Line trains would now require a possession (between at least Neasden and Baker Street, probably Wembley Park to Waterloo in practice) to get to and from Neasden depot. Or after all booked trains have left the line, sort of like a possession My memory is vague, but I think the movements up to Neasden in 1997 were after Jube and Met trains had stabled. Was done by the Elephant & Castle night crews who were working from Piccadily. Last Bakerloo NB went up, they'd take train(s) to Baker St and wait for last Jubilee to go north from Baker st before following them up to Neasden depot. Actually, come to think of it, when I did my stock training that year, I did it at Neasden depot. Fire training was done at London road
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 16:49:37 GMT
Back then it was fully conventional signalling so no problems running at anytime
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Post by drainrat on Sept 27, 2018 16:57:08 GMT
Yeah, would have to wait for complete clear road all through to Neasden now
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