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Post by superteacher on Jul 21, 2018 21:23:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 0:36:29 GMT
This is very optimistic...
All it's going to be is another announcement that will be entirely ignored - further contributing to the noise pollution.
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Post by class411 on Jul 23, 2018 7:06:44 GMT
This is very optimistic... All it's going to be is another announcement that will be entirely ignored - further contributing to the noise pollution. This is very much the case. The incessant gabbling that now emanates from the train's PA system means that it is largely ignored by most of the people, most of the time. Probably the worst and most useless piece of 'noise' is the entirely superfluous 'this train is being held at a red signal', every time the train stops other than at a station. What do they think passengers are imagining? That it has stopped to nibble some particularly tasty mushrooms it's espied alongside the track? Whet we want to know, if it stops for any length of time, is why it's being held and how long it's going to be before it gets moving again. It's extraordinarily rare to be told that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 9:15:15 GMT
What a huge waste of time. No one listens to announcements because the tube has become full so full of noise pollution, that most passengers drown it out with headphones. As for looking at Badges and messages once again a waste of time. People are too busy staring at their phones....
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Post by ducatisti on Jul 23, 2018 9:29:15 GMT
I think people are better at it than is implied, and I worry that this announcement will actually put people off, and it certainly is more noise that limits the odds of people paying attention to it - either by putting in headphones or zoning out.
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Post by stapler on Jul 23, 2018 12:00:57 GMT
I was thinking of the noise contrast between the Central Line now and when I first used it in the 50s. Then, if you were lucky, you'd get a brief yelled "Loughton train" or whatever at Leytonstone. There was no PA - not until c1988 - and no door warblers. Now, apart from the routine tosh, you sometimes get drivers who can't keep their traps shut - in one case giving 14 announcements between Loughton and Stratford, much to the amusement of the passengers. How did we get on, 60 years ago, just reading the station names and using our intuition to mind the gaps?
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Post by Chris M on Jul 23, 2018 14:34:45 GMT
Well in the former case (just reading station names) you got by by excluding the visually impaired.
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Post by goldenarrow on Jul 24, 2018 18:38:57 GMT
It’s a down to earth idea taken from genuine need by someone who experiences this difficult and the fact that the individual has gone to TfL and got well earned publicity for it is a great achievement.
However, as has been said above, I fear that it’s not acknowledged the realities of the passenger experience at the moment. It’s conducive to making a-lot of passengers wanting to phase out.
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Post by banana99 on Jul 24, 2018 23:36:59 GMT
There's a station announcer at Paddington (Bakerloo) who literally shouts into his mic at the top of his voice "I TOLD YOU TO NOT STAND IN FRONT OF THE DOORS!!!!!!" I'm surprised it's not resulted in complaints, only possible reason is people just want to get on with their day.
That's just the end of his speech as he goes on the entire time. As others have said, for good reason, it just gets lost in the noise pollution. However his OTT shouting at people that know how the tube works and tourists is unacceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 5:01:09 GMT
I was thinking of the noise contrast between the Central Line now and when I first used it in the 50s. Then, if you were lucky, you'd get a brief yelled "Loughton train" or whatever at Leytonstone. There was no PA - not until c1988 - and no door warblers. Now, apart from the routine tosh, you sometimes get drivers who can't keep their traps shut - in one case giving 14 announcements between Loughton and Stratford, much to the amusement of the passengers. How did we get on, 60 years ago, just reading the station names and using our intuition to mind the gaps?
To be honest even in the early 2000s when the noise pollution started appearing, I remember fondly that it was only during rush hour. Before or after rush hour you could easily fall asleep in some tube stations it was that peaceful, well apart from the trains and dva's anyway.
Now you stand in a station at any point in the day and you can be sure there will be an unnecessary announcement every one minute.
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Post by superteacher on Jul 25, 2018 6:57:49 GMT
There's a station announcer at Paddington (Bakerloo) who literally shouts into his mic at the top of his voice "I TOLD YOU TO NOT STAND IN FRONT OF THE DOORS!!!!!!" I'm surprised it's not resulted in complaints, only possible reason is people just want to get on with their day. That's just the end of his speech as he goes on the entire time. As others have said, for good reason, it just gets lost in the noise pollution. However his OTT shouting at people that know how the tube works and tourists is unacceptable. The point is that it’s often the regular users who stand in the way, run for trains as the doors are closing etc. We are far too softly, softly these days. I remember years ago there were guards who would bellow down the platform using some colourful language to anyone who obstructed the doors. |
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